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Hair removal with Dr. Brassard

Started by SarahBear1981, May 04, 2018, 09:25:05 PM

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SarahBear1981

I'm planning on having GCS with Dr. Brassard in the next year or two and am wondering about hair removal.

My understand is that you don't need to have electrolysis but that it's better if you do...  Am I correct here?

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kaitylynn

I started laser down there in anticipation of SRS in the next few years as well.  My preferred surgeon's site says that while it is not absolutely necessary, it is HIGHLY recommended.  They outline that if hair removal is not performed before surgery, electrolysis will be applied during surgery.

It seems like a good idea, I would bet that Dr. Brassard would handle is similarly.
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Devlyn

Personally, I wouldn't take a chance with it. I would want full hair removal done ahead of time.

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AnonyMs

There's a number of women that have had problems with hair after SRS with Dr Brassard. You probably don't need it, but you won't find out until too late, and it can be really bad if you do have hair.
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SarahBear1981

Thanks everyone!

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jenn90210

What's the best option for this? laser or electrolysis?




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AnonyMs

Electrolysis is better as it will never grow back.
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ainsley

I had SRS with brassard/belanger and did no hair removal before and have no hair in my vagina now.  My gyno confirmed this, and so has my wife. 

As for laser before surg with brassard, he does not want you to do that because he scrapes the follicles during the surgery and follicles that have been laser treated, as we all know, are not always killed off, but gone for a while, then grow back.  If they are gone during the surgery, then he cannot see them to scrape them, and they will grow back after the surg and you will have hairs in your vagina.  My paperwork for surgery explicitly stated this, so I would recommend contacting his office before doing laser or electrolysis as preparation for surgery with them.
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AnonyMs

Ask him how much money he's going to give you if you end up with vaginal hair and I bet you'd get a different answer.
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ainsley

Quote from: AnonyMs on May 10, 2018, 08:08:47 AM
Ask him how much money he's going to give you if you end up with vaginal hair and I bet you'd get a different answer.

A little salty today, no? 

I am not going to argue whether someone should go against the recommendation of the doctor that is performing surgery on you or not.  If you have that much concern about it, then maybe find another surgeon?  But going against his recommendation for preparation for HIS surgery using HIS techniques is foolish.
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AnonyMs

There's quite a number of women who have vaginal hair post op with Dr Brassard. You can find them if you search a bit. So what conclusion is there? What to do?
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kat69

Quote from: AnonyMs on May 10, 2018, 10:18:22 AM
There's quite a number of women who have vaginal hair post op with Dr Brassard. You can find them if you search a bit. So what conclusion is there? What to do?

This is the question, eh?!  I just had GCS with Dr Brassard 11 days ago, and I can already see where he scraped and where he didn't. I know that hairs grow in cycles, and my mons pubis is already growing hair whereas nowhere 'in' the greater vaginal area do I find hairs.

Even with laser or electrolysis, you will need to have the treatments a long time in advance...as in years....I've been doing facial hair removal for almost 2 years and I had hairs pop up on my face during the time I was off hormones. 

Ultimately you have to decide what works for you with you schedule, your finances and your opinion of the surgeon.  I'm sure that there are some with hairs inside, but what percentage don't?
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ForeverLacey

I believe genital hair removal is a necessity and a piece of mind to anyone who is considering penile inversion surgery regardless of who you choose for a surgeon. Even the best doctors have off days, there is no better insurance against hair in the vagina than clearing the area well in advance. In the documentation I received from Dr Brassard, it did state that if you're undergoing electrolysis the area should be hair free for at least a year prior to surgery. I was clearing my area a few years before I even had a surgery date, so if you have awhile to spare then get it done now.
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Brooke

Quote from: ainsley on May 10, 2018, 08:05:39 AM
As for laser before surg with brassard, he does not want you to do that because he scrapes the follicles during the surgery and follicles that have been laser treated, as we all know, are not always killed off, but gone for a while, then grow back.  If they are gone during the surgery, then he cannot see them to scrape them, and they will grow back after the surg and you will have hairs in your vagina.

I will mention that laser is okay if you stop it long enough in advance. For purposes of regrowth including growth cycles, you want to stop laser hair removal at least 9 months before surgery. Any sooner than that and you risk having hairs in a dormant state at the time of surgery.
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Dena

Quote from: ForeverLacey on May 11, 2018, 07:21:20 AM
I believe genital hair removal is a necessity and a piece of mind to anyone who is considering penile inversion surgery regardless of who you choose for a surgeon.
My PI surgery used the penis skin for the vagina and the scrotum to construct the labia and hair wasn't an issue. Scraping hadn't been invented yet and I didn't have lower hair removal. This is possible if the surgeon has enough to work with. If you don't, the scrotum becomes a source of vaginal tissue and then hair removal becomes an issue.
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ForeverLacey

Quote from: Brooke on May 19, 2018, 04:18:44 PM
I will mention that laser is okay if you stop it long enough in advance. For purposes of regrowth including growth cycles, you want to stop laser hair removal at least 9 months before surgery. Any sooner than that and you risk having hairs in a dormant state at the time of surgery.

From my understanding laser only extends the follicle dormancy phase which means those hairs would eventually grow back at some point. That said, not everyone is a candidate for laser and with such a small area I wouldn't see why people would pass on electrolysis being that it's FDA approved for permanent hair removal.
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Mendi

Quote from: ForeverLacey on May 21, 2018, 09:59:02 AM
From my understanding laser only extends the follicle dormancy phase which means those hairs would eventually grow back at some point. That said, not everyone is a candidate for laser and with such a small area I wouldn't see why people would pass on electrolysis being that it's FDA approved for permanent hair removal.

Laser (for example alexandrite) destroys the hair growth permanently, effective for dark hair. And certainly doesn´t require nine time waiting time before surgery. The growth cycle, depending on people, is five to eight weeks. Not 9 months! Or years!

Electrolysis is effective for other than dark hair, though it works for those too, but laser covers the area much more quickly, and more effectively.
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ForeverLacey

Quote from: Mendi on May 21, 2018, 10:48:43 AM
Laser (for example alexandrite) destroys the hair growth permanently, effective for dark hair. And certainly doesn´t require nine time waiting time before surgery. The growth cycle, depending on people, is five to eight weeks. Not 9 months! Or years!

Electrolysis is effective for other than dark hair, though it works for those too, but laser covers the area much more quickly, and more effectively.

Because a lot of girls rely on us for advice I feel it's important that we are accurate with our claims. I cannot find any resources that prove "Alexandrite" is permanent removal so maybe you could find something. That said, I pulled this off the FDA website which was last updated in December of 2017.

Manufacturers should be aware that receiving an FDA clearance for general permission to market their devices does not permit them to advertise the lasers for either hair removal or wrinkle treatment, even though hair removal or wrinkle treatment may be a by-product of any cleared laser procedure. Further, manufacturers may not claim that laser hair removal is either painless or permanent unless the FDA determines that there are sufficient data to demonstrate such results. Several manufacturers received FDA permission to claim, "permanent reduction," NOT "permanent removal" for their lasers. This means that although laser treatments with these devices will permanently reduce the total number of body hairs, they will not result in a permanent removal of all hair. The specific claim granted is "intended to effect stable, long-term, or permanent reduction" through selective targeting of melanin in hair follicles. Permanent hair reduction is defined as the long-term, stable reduction in the number of hairs re-growing after a treatment regime, which may include several sessions. The number of hairs regrowing must be stable over time greater than the duration of the complete growth cycle of hair follicles, which varies from four to twelve months according to body location. Permanent hair reduction does not necessarily imply the elimination of all hairs in the treatment area.
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Mendi

Well I don´t know how it is in USA, but in Europe, Alexandrite laser as well as Diode laser, is common, recommended and covered by public health care, with F64.0 diagnose. And it is definitely permanent hair removal.

Perhaps it is not in use in USA, but as here is also Europeans as well as Kiwis, where it is in use also.
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Mendi

And if you are in look for something scientific, well here you go:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4281988/

"Results show that the diode laser at 810 nm was a better option for hair removal than the alexandrite laser at 755 nm."

And one for YAG laser, which is a third type of laser:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4115894/

"Alexandrite laser is still the most efficient and reliable way of hair removal in fair skinned individuals."
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