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Has your body language /movement changed?

Started by Drexy/Drex, July 01, 2018, 09:19:04 AM

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Drexy/Drex

Hi as above... a friend  told me that as time went on with hrt movement  would change  amongst  other things
I felt that perhaps  my stride  had changed  ....but maybe it's just in my head?
What about you?
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zirconia

Hi, Drexy

I think that I've mostly just reverted to some of the motion patterns I had when a child. I really had to make an effort to move in an increasingly staid and stolid manner as I grew up, so it's been a relief to regain some of that freedom.

Other than that, there are also some specific things that may be seen as feminine but that I see as mostly practical. Those would include e.g. adjustments to gestures and movement in general when one wears certain types of clothes or shoes, or has long. I believe that were men in general to wear the same fashions they might end up using somewhat similar motion patterns.

...so to me hormones really have had little or nothing to do with it. It would be interesting to hear what others have experienced...



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Jessica

Quote from: Drexy/Drex on July 01, 2018, 09:19:04 AM
Hi as above... a friend  told me that as time went on with hrt movement  would change  amongst  other things
I felt that perhaps  my stride  had changed  ....but maybe it's just in my head?
What about you?

I run with a group of cis-women of varying abilities.  I have been the one they look to for pace and style to get them ready for races.  In the one year I've been on hrt I have noticed a change on my style and stride.  It is now more hip oriented movement.  Rather than the more erect stance that men typically have, my upper body is more in a forward lean, with my hips and legs achieving a balance that moves me forward faster.  This is likely due to changes in ligaments and tendons.
I now can understand the woman's running style and now help my running friends with a style, pace and stride they can be comfortable with. 
My close friend, I recently came out to, has increased her time by 4 minutes per mile (from 15 to 11) in just 6 weeks.

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Faith

mine changed, not from HRT that I can tell. It's due to not trying to 'walk like a guy' I am letting my body walk like it want to. It seems to be working :)


'regular' movements are the same way. Motions that I thought were to 'girlie' through the years, I stopped worrying about.
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Megan.

My running gait has certainly changed, I suspect the change in weight distribution from HRT may have a big part in this.

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krobinson103

The way I walk, stand, and general body language has changed a lot. Some from observation, but lately its becoming more automatic.
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Ryuichi13

My body language and movements have definitely changed since admitting to myself that I'm male!

Not only do I now manspread naturally instead of "trying to remember to sit like a lady," the way I walk has changed as well.  I tend to naturally stand taller as well as sit taller since transitioning, and it feels great to finally be able to be myself! 

I know its mostly self-confidence and self-assurance that's doing a lot of this, but even with a binder and packer off, I just finally feel like "its okay to be me!"

I still pay attention to how cis men do things when I'm out in public, from how things are held to how they hold their hands when they sit at a red light.  I may never completely stop doing so, but its lessening over time.

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Lynne

As I child one of my classmates said I walk like a girl. Ater that I have tried even harder to suppress everything feminine and tried to act more manly.
While HRT does change the body, my body language changed quite drastically without HRT once I started the road to transition. I basically dropped the macho style which never really worked for me anyway and allowed myself to express myself more freely and the result was more feminine body language.
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Megan.

Early on in my transition I made very active and conscious changes to my movements, positions etc, trying best to mimic female behaviour by observation.

After a year, that behaviour is now mostly subconscious, and old poses like 'man-spreading' now feel quite awkward. I've had several cisgender people tell me that my behaviour is quite feminine, which still surprises me honestly.

Previously I was an average guy, no hint (to my knowledge) of anything else, though I clearly recall working to make my walk more male as a teenager.

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KathyLauren

My movements are still a work in progress.  I sometimes catch myself holding my body or moving in a very male way and try to correct myself.  The biggest thing is tummy in, boobs out.  If I can remember that, my posture looks okay. 

I find that wearing proper women's footwear (i.e. not sneakers) helps.  Even a slight heel changes my gait.  That, and keeping my tummy sucked in gives me a nice hip swish.
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Jessica

As @KathyLauren mentioned the hip swish.  At the Astoria Pride dance, I couldn't help but moving my hips in a fashion that was foreign as much as feeling natural.  I believe @Megan. Is correct about fat distribution in my hips (butt) and has something to with it..
....... what do you think @Laurie ?

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Eryn T

My body language and movement needed to change.  I know that there's certain things more common amongst different genders, but I have seen many women with somewhat masculine ways of doing things, and men with feminine ways, too.

But for me, before I knew I was transgender, I felt trapped in my own skin both physically and mentally.  I did not express my movements, I did not do anything except the what of it all.  But with this transition, now I find that I want to show myself more and more, and enjoy being more expressive in so many ways.

Hip-specific movement is still very new to me though, I tried like learning how to feel music more with my hips than with my shoulders/head; and while it feels so much better, it also feels really awkward.  I think my stride has improved significantly, but maybe not entirely feminine enough? Sometimes I try to arch the muscles right above my butt when I'm walking, pulling-up on my ass. Doing that while trying to take smaller, more defined steps, and keeping my feet close to the middle of my body tends to make it impossible not to sway your hips at least a little while walking.

One thing that was a bit more challenging, but I now do easily, is using my hands more like 'paper' and less like 'rock'.  Not exactly a 'pinkie's out' kind of gesture, but taking that mindset feels important to me that I find I use my hands in a more considerate and effective manner now, than one with a bit more force and speed.
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Quote from: Jessica on July 01, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
As @KathyLauren mentioned the hip swish.  At the Astoria Pride dance, I couldn't help but moving my hips in a fashion that was foreign as much as feeling natural.  I believe @Megan. Is correct about fat distribution in my hips (butt) and has something to with it..
....... what do you think @Laurie ?

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Drexy/Drex

Thanks for your input  ...😊 demystifys a few things
I'm finding  my movements are... I guess softer,  some static positions I would have once  never used for fear of being labelled effeminate  are now second nature,  movement  is starting  to be governed by weight gain in the inner thighs and glutes.... feels natural....
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RobynD

A significantly changed body has to lead to some movement changes. I have concentrated on being more feminine in my movements with varied success and interest. My running seems to have changed a bit too.


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KarynMcD

Quote from: Jessica on July 01, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
As @KathyLauren mentioned the hip swish.  At the Astoria Pride dance, I couldn't help but moving my hips in a fashion that was foreign as much as feeling natural.  I believe @Megan. Is correct about fat distribution in my hips (butt) and has something to with it..
....... what do you think @Laurie ?

I think it's more about how you land your feet. If you are walking more like a women and your feet are landing in front of one another or very near one another (as opposed to how a man walks with their feet spread apart), your hips will sway more. The additional fat distribution will just make it more noticeable to others.
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Kylo

I am sure I have a mix of stereotypical mannerisms, mainly on the masculine side but to a certain point. For example, most of the men I know are more clumsy than I am. They injure themselves, drop things, and break things all the time. I've always been precise the way I do things, to an OCD level, even since I was a kid in order not to have those results, and I'm good at not breaking things, or breaking myself. I avoid getting my clothes and hands dirty if I can, and since I'm not keen on the idea of being super-butch and compensatory, I suppose some would look at me and figure me for having a slightly feminine aspect to the way I do certain things. Someone once told me men and women smoked differently too - back when I did a bit of that, I would typically alternate between the two styles of smoking without thinking. I've seen men do this more, but rarely women.

I haven't seen much point to changing my behavior up at all, except in the voice department. I don't speak from the throat any more, but that doesn't seem to have been a conscious choice either. My body language isn't feminine enough to gain much attention right now, and it was never so excessively masculine before to get much in the way of comment either. I think it's just unique to me, and nobody's much noticed it. The only time I remember being told I was 'standing out' as a result of that was in my school days, when someone said I "walked like a man" - which was how I became aware of the way women were walking which was different to me. I'd never noticed it until then.

Being post-surgery has obviously changed a few body habits, though.
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