The Aviation Thread

[Colleen_definitely]

Oh I know how they worked, I love the Canberra (of Martin or English Electric origin)
'tis a beautiful aircraft.

[steph2.0]

The Martin B-57 Canberra used a cartridge starting system but it didn't work like you might think. When you set it off, it would produce a massive cloud of black smoke while the engine was winding up.

I do seem to remember the writer mentioning a cloud of black smoke, but I think the story involved a single engine plane. I doubt a ground crew could get a B-57 rolling very fast anyway!

[Kirsteneklund7]

Hey hey hey! A little respect here! That's Miss Bitch to you!

Yes Ma'am.

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[Dena]

I do seem to remember the writer mentioning a cloud of black smoke, but I think the story involved a single engine plane. I doubt a ground crew could get a B-57 rolling very fast anyway!

You could watch the original Flight of the Phoenix. You have a home built (sort of) with a shot gun starter.

[steph2.0]

You could watch the original Flight of the Phoenix. You have a home built (sort of) with a shot gun starter.

I remember the drama around the number of shells available. Jimmy Stewart was awesome (and a real pilot). Paul Mantz was killed while trying to fly that plane.

[Kirsteneklund7]

I remember the drama around the number of shells available. Jimmy Stewart was awesome (and a real pilot). Paul Mantz was killed while trying to fly that plane.

I'm gonna use one cartridge to clear the cylinders alright?

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[Chloe]

He told the ramp rats, no problem, we'll just push start it. They were scratching their heads . . .

       Hey hey watch the name calling! We were called "Fleet Services" and fail to see how a rapid *explosive charge* would work unless there's some kind of pressure accumulator with a check valve before it? And did multi-engines have *cross-bleed* or did one do the same for all engines?

lol And I take it a 1000lb hand/foot air pump would not have worked in emergencies?

Pop the clutch? Seriously . . .
Used to love watching, listening to those JT9D's spin up!
"brakes released? ok to pressurize (hydraulic B pumps), clear to start & crossbleed (all other engines)!" Used to also watch maintenance *bubblegum* any wing tank fuel leaks until seals expanded airborne?

[Donica]

You could watch the original Flight of the Phoenix. You have a home built (sort of) with a shot gun starter.

Flight of the Phoenix is a good movie!

[KathyLauren]

The Martin B-57 Canberra used a cartridge starting system but it didn't work like you might think. When you set it off, it would produce a massive cloud of black smoke while the engine was winding up.

Here's a video of a B57 start.  #1 engine starts at 0:07, #2 engine at 1:44.

[KatieP]

Here's a video of a B57 start.  #1 engine starts at 0:07, #2 engine at 1:44.

I love how the "Fleet Services" personnel bring over the fire extinguisher before start. Yep. That plane would be a bundle of laughs to be in...



Kate

[Kirsteneklund7]

Flight of the Phoenix is a good movie!

[graspthesanity]

I'm so happy I found this thread! Not an aviator in the great outdoors but I'm an enthusiast, namely playing DCS these days. It's nothing like the real thing, but throwing around a pixel F-14 is pretty fun.

[CynthiaAnn]

I enjoyed catching up on this thread a bit, we've raised a commercial pilot in our home, and find this topic fascinating. My soul mate and I work so she can get her next endorsement (float planes).

Hugs

Cynthia -

[Kirsteneklund7]

Something for the aerosexuals out there. On the ramp in Darwin this week.

Trouble with the winch necessitated a mobile crane to change the engine.

Regards, Kirsten.

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[CynthiaAnn]

Just sharing a little here for you aviation types. Here is our pilot posing on the wing of a T6 (Texan), she flew this plane later that day at the classic air show (along with the museum pilot).

[steph2.0]

Is anyone here going to Sun-N-Fun? If so, look for me in the Light Plane area. It used to be called the Ultralight area, but we've improved our runway, and have Light Sport and other light planes like Cubs and Champs, along with rotorcraft, flying there now. The semi-official name of our home there is "Paradise City."

I'll be doing the announcing, along with my co-host Paul, for the aircraft flying off the runway, as I did last year. And just like last year, the commentary will be broadcasted on the PA system alongside the runway and on the local radio station, along with being live-streamed on LiveATC.net. I'll put the link here when I get it.

Last year was my coming-out to all of the people I've worked with at Sun-N-Fun over the last 30 years or so, and it was stressful, to say the least, despite the wonderful outcome. I've grown so much over the last year, and am so much more comfortable with myself and the way I interact with others. Last year was fun, but with my reduced anxiety levels I expect this year to be awesome.

Look for me in the wooden shack next to our runway. I hope to see some of you there!

Stephanie

[Dani]

Stephanie,

I am planning on going to Sun N Fun on Friday. I will try stop by to see you.

I hope my visit last year helped lower your anxiety level. I thought you did really well as we visited people who you previously knew.

[steph2.0]

Stephanie,

I am planning on going to Sun N Fun on Friday. I will try stop by to see you.

I hope my visit last year helped lower your anxiety level. I thought you did really well as we visited people who you previously knew.

Great! You know where to find me! And yes, watching your confident interactions with strangers helped me understand how to deal with them. Friends and old acquaintances were a little different matter, but the acceptance I received from them made it a lot easier than I expected. Using lessons learned from you and other friends close to my heart, I've grown in confidence far more than I thought possible in such a short time. Since last year I've traveled over 10,000 miles in the US and around Europe, and interacted with innumerable people without a single problem. Some have even become good friends. Though there are still a few from the old life who are struggling with the concept of the new me, life is so different, so much better, than it was in the old days. You and all my other friends can take a lot of credit for getting me here. Thank you, and see you on Friday!

For all Susan's visitors, hugs are waiting!


Stephanie

[Donica]

I'm sorry I have to miss this one Steph. I look forward to connecting up with the radio link. Have a great time Galaxy girl! Rock their wings.

[steph2.0]

I'm sorry I have to miss this one Steph. I look forward to connecting up with the radio link. Have a great time Galaxy girl! Rock their wings.

Thank you Donica! I'm back at Sun-N-Fun now, my camper is set up, and I'm getting lots of hugs and compliments from all my friends here. Our media shack is set up, all of the feeds are tested and working fine, and we'll be ready to go first thing Tuesday morning.

As promised, here's the link to LiveATC.net if you'd like to listen to Paul and me announce what's going on at our field. https://www.liveatc.net/hlisten.php?mount=snfpc&icao=klal.

Off to the Sunday surf and turf cookout with all my new old friends!