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Going full time

Started by jaedevon, September 19, 2018, 10:36:42 AM

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jaedevon

Hi there everyone!

So, I came out a few months back as a trans woman. I have been on HRT for 4 months and am starting to see significant changes.

Up until now I have been dressing part time. My hair is still growing so I wear a wig and so I still very much feel like I am putting on a costume or dressing up - so going full time seems so much more of a big thing for me at the moment. However, people generally assume i am male without the wig and in jeans and jumpers etc and it is becoming increasingly frustrating. I do feel ready but also feel scared and like it is a massive step forward.

Many people are telling me that it isn't as big a thing as I anticipate and it is more the thought of it. I get told that I 'pass' really well when dressed and so feel like I can't talk about this too much to my other trans friends as I am aware i am in a privileged position. Maybe i am thinking too much about it.

It would be great to hear other people's experiences of going full time. I think I need some inspiration and encouragement!

Thanks so much!
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krobinson103

I went 'full time' pretty much day one of HRT. Its no big deal. Just dress female all the time. Initially people look at you oddly. But not as oddly as a super feminine man...
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KathyLauren

Hi, jaedevon, and welcome to the forum.

Your post put a big smile on my face, because I remember so well being in exactly your position.  I had been on HRT for a couple of months and was thinking of going full-time on another month's time, but I had a lot of fear about doing so.  I worried about how I would be seen, and how people would react to me.  I assumed the worst.

So I made an appointment to see my therapist to talk about my fears.  There was a big blizzard forecast for the day of my appointment, so I drove into town the day before, and stayed overnight in a hotel.  I had an evening and a morning to kill, in a city where I knew no one aside from my support group.  I resolved to get out as Kathy, still very much part-time.

I messaged my support group friends and one of them invited me to a club that he knew to be safe, just around the corner from my hotel.  We walked in, and my support group moderator is on stage doing stand-up, and there is one whole table of support group members in the audience!  There were plenty of cis people around, but clearly, being trans in that space was safe.

The next morning, I went for a walk in the snow, by myself.  I went to a coffee shop for breakfast, and a restaurant for lunch.  I went window-shopping in downtown stores.  I even joked with a cashier when my card pulled up my boy name on her computer.  ("I guess I'll have to get that updated!")  I had a great time.  Nobody looked at me funny.  Nobody said anything mean.  I made a point of interacting with wait staff and cashiers, and nothing bad happened.  By the time my afternoon therapy appointment rolled around, I was over the fear.  We went through the motions, and she offered me a followup appointment, but I knew I didn't need it.

Prior to that trip, I had been out as Kathy only to go from the car to the support group meeting and back, interacting with no one else.  It was the interactions with random people that made the difference for me.  I just had to get some first-hand evidence that it could be okay.

That is what I'd recommend for you: get out there and do some serious part-time exploration.  See how it feels.  Obviously be safe in your choice of places to do this, but plan to have fun with it.

Good luck! 
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Laurie

Hi jaedevon,

  I'm Laurie, the wandering waif of Susan's Place. Good to see you here with us. Welcome.
Like Kathy, I grinned as I read your post. It brought back my experiences in going full time. But to be truthful I had been out dressed many many times in the privacy of my car. That was a safe place like dressing in my bedroom. However, going out into public areas and interacting with people is a whole different matter and that is what I am talking about here.
  My first forays into the public eye were accepting dares (suggestions) from other members here at Susan's Place. The first was to go dressed into a store. I did this that night by going into Walmart 5 minutes before closing. I was scared but in I went. I went into the cosmetics section took a picture as proof, walked through the women's clothing section and left. I posted the picture and related the escapade.  Not good enough I was told, I was then instructed to go into a store, shop for some women's item, take it to a live cashier and pay for it . I chose Target the next night got gussied up and off to Target I went. ( o'clock at night and there was a steady stream of people in and out. It took me 15 minutes to get up the courage to get out of my car and go inside. I browsed through the ladies wallets and picked one. I looked at earrings and clothes  and the beauty products and picked up a nail tool I wanted. No one gave me strange looks that I know of. So off to the cashier and in line behind one person, A couple more get in line behind me. Oh crap, let me out of here. The cashier looks up and smiles at me with a look like"that's a guy" I'm sure. But when it is my turn she says nothing and politely rings up my items which I pay for and almost run out of the store. I had survived!
  My next outing was even more in the public eye. I went to visit another member for the weekend out on the coast for the Astoria Pride festivities. A whole weekend dressed! I really didn't know Tessa James but I would after this weekend as I was staying the weekend. I found out she is one of the founders of their Q center and very active in the festivities. Everywhere I went with her I was introduce as her friend Laurie from Portland. Everywhere! I swear she knows everyone! Before I knew it I was holding up one end of a rainbow banner just behind the official Astoria Pride banner at the front of the parade. How's that for public interactions? I survived that, the block party and he dance. How many people I met I don't know but a lot.
   The next escapade would be the last time in male mode. I had announce here in Susan's that I was going to take a road trip to Maine and back to Oregon and asked if anyone wanted to meet me along the way. I had eight people say they would. The first two were in the Denver area where I would have lunch with @Janes Groove  and stay the night with @RandyL and his wife. I decided I could go that far dressed so off I went as Laurie. I met Jane outside the restaurant and in we went for my first time in a restaurant. Visiting with her was so fun I ignored everyone around us. My visit over night with RandyL was also a very enjoyable time. I could hardly believe I was staying overnight in their home when they barely knew me. they were gracious hosts and even their vegan diet they fed me was good.
    From the I went further east, still dressed, to visit other friends in Missouri who knew of Laurie but had never seen her. On the way I managed to lock my purse, phone, and keys in my pickup at one of those big truck stop/gas stations. OMG!, I had to go inside and ask for help. They called a locksmith for me and I had to explain I was dressed as a woman so he could find me when he got there. Yes I was scared and embarrassed, but I did survive.
   To shorten the tail I went on with my trip to Maine and back visiting 7 other members of Susan's, My friends in Mo., and my niece in PA. I wound up changing to male clothes only twice on the way out. Once to go fishing in Mo. and the other was to take my niece out to dinner in Altoona, Pa. All these encounters with everyone and running all over in public had it's effect on me. By the time I had gotten back to Idaho on the way home it occurred to me that I had been living full time as Laurie for 3 and a half weeks since I had last changed to male clothes and there was no reason I could think of for me to stop. Yes it had snuck up on me, I was full time and just realized it. That was over a year ago and I have not been in male clothes since.
   All it takes is getting yourself out there and getting over the fear of being seen. Get over the fear then own it girl. You can do it. If you have friends you can go places with that will help.  Good luck.

Hugs,
  Laurie
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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barbie

Quote from: jaedevon on September 19, 2018, 10:36:42 AM
It would be great to hear other people's experiences of going full time. I think I need some inspiration and encouragement!

Thanks so much!

You are now a kind of rookie driver. You will learn by trial and error. Especially female friends can give a lot of feedback on your new appearance.

Enjoy it!

barbie~~
Just do it.
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jaedevon

Thank you so much everyone for your comments! It is great to hear your experiences and is also lovely to know that I am not alone.

I will definitely start to challenge myself a bit more - am going out tomorrow with some friends and will also plan a trip out shopping v soon.

Have a great day!
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TransParkie

I was lucky in one respect, in that growing up? all the way through HS, my younger sister and I could almost pass as twins. I say almost, because whenever I'd try to let my hair grow long?? my dad would start bugging me to "go get it cut", because in his words... "I was starting to look like a god damn hippie".... In fact even today? 40 years later, I still have my mothers skin, and as my hair grows longer, and longer? I'm again looking more, and more like my younger sister.... WHOOHOO....


Now? where is this going???
Well after years of fighting with her, I finally let this girl out of the closet, and dang it if she didn't just take over.  Anyway that was back in late 2016... By Jan of 2017, she decided that if she was going to be out?? She wanted to I look like a "she", and no more of this boy crap... giggle... Of course this was after I had showed my dear wife how I looked in one of my favorite dresses of hers that I had often "borrowed" when she wasn't home... To my total suprise, she told me that it looked great on me.. (yippee). So good? that it looked better on me, than it ever did on her... In fact? since then, we've found a lot of clothes that she  never wore for one reason or other.. that look awsome on me...
So, by Jan of 2016? Brigitte had her official "coming out".. No that was 5 months BEFORE hormones... and dressed? with a pair of falsies/wig??? I found that I passed quite easily.. So that? was that... Yes, I would get clocked once in a while, but hey? I figured that was their issue not mine... I always figured that since I had zero control of what others might say? or think? I personally was not going to worry about it.. "Not my circus, not my monkey..." So I did a cold social transition right here in the city I basically grew up in.... in fact? I even have several friends on my FB page, that I've known since HS/JrHigh way back in 1975........... Now that my b oob's have grown to the point that I've retired the falsies, and my hair is now well below my ears...  I don't give being out and about asecond thought.. I've used the womans bathroom since the beginning, and the womans locker room at the "Y" since last spring with no issues at all...  To anyone else? I'm just one of the "Girls", and yes, there are a couple of women in my water aerobics class? that know exactly what I am...... Of course my Orchie last Jan. helped a bunch, and legally changing my name, and my birth certificate., henceforth my gender marker on EVERYTHING? was a huge boost...... So basically if you want to finally go full time en-femme?? Just jump in feet first? and OWN it... The more confidence you put out there? the less issues/problems you'll have with everyone else.........

hugs
Brigitte



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julia-madrid

Hi Jaedevon

Lots of sympathetic chucking on this thread - welcome to the club!   :D

The first time out is undeniably stressful, but, you know what?  Not that many people notice!  In my case this was despite dodgy clothing, oversize sunglasses and a terrrrrible wig.  Most people are on their smartphones in any event.

Before I got a few facial things fixed and hair grown, the main props were a good wig (avoid party shop wigs!) and a neckerchief to cover my Adam's apple.  Occasionally, late on the Friday or Saturday night metro home I got a few quizzical looks from some slightly drunk folk, but who cares.  I also got asked on dates more than a few times...

Use the wig, and any other props you require!  Plenty cis women do this, and nobody questions their authenticity, so go for it girl!

Good luck!
Julia
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