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Alice (nym)

Hi, This is my first post here... To be honest, I just want a chat and get things off my chest and wasn't quite sure where to go.

I am at terms with my identity... that is not to say I am happy with it, but for the most part I can live with it. I've known I should've been born female from the age of 2... I can remember clearly the exact moment that it dawned on me. I was at playgroup playing cars with another boy and we were kind of arguing because I was playing with the purple and pink car and he just wanted it because he thought all the cars belonged to him. I was a bright kid, still am. I looked across the room for the adult and saw a beautiful girl with her hair tied back, wearing a beautiful dress, and playing with the toys that I wanted to play with... and I just wanted to be just like her and thought it was unfair that I couldn't.

I don't have many memories from when I was 2, so I don't know if I said anything to my parents or grandparents but it was reinforced throughout my childhood that boys were boys and anyone showing any kind of femininity were sissy puffters. So that was that... I spent my entire childhood wishing I could be a girl but had to keep it all hidden because that was what was expected of me.

Once I allowed myself out of the cage, and pretended to go to a football match but instead went to transformations... I was so nervous and terrified that someone would spot me. But I put on a brave face and went in and asked to be transformed for a few hours at an extortionate cost. I was just far too nervous and shy, and deeply paranoid afterwards.  As a teenager I would sneak on my mothers and sisters clothes when they were not home. When watching porn with my friends, I was always wishing I was the woman in the scenes and eventually found that it was acceptable with my friends to fantasize over lesbian porn. But really, I didn't care what they were doing, I just wanted to be good looking. Shallow?  I guess I am.

Transgender issues were still more or less in the dark. I was aware of them... enough to visit transformations... but it was still before the internet really took off like it is today. One of the things I got from transformations was that even with the professional make up artists, I still looked like a 6'2" well built bloke with huge feet in drag. If I cross dressed on my own, I was careful to avoid mirrors and allowed the fantasy to live in my head for an hour or two. But part of the transformation experience is that you get a photograph of yourself and I didn't like what I saw. It was the nail in the coffin about any ideas of transitioning. I want to be a beautiful woman not a man in drag. As I said this was before the internet and I had no idea about hormones or what plastic surgery can do, but for me, the killer was my feet. If I couldn't reduce my foot size from 11 to 5-6 then transitioning wasn't going to happen. I am shallow. So I learned to live with being who society expects me to be.

Eventually, came MMORPG (online computer gaming). My god, that was a godsend. I could finally let myself out of the cage. Obviously I played a female character but I could interact with other people as a woman and they were none the wiser. It felt great while it lasted. But eventually, teamspeak/ventrillo speech software became requirements to continue playing at the level we were playing at and I lost the magic. To be fair it was very funny because it turned out half the people we thought were men, were women, but I was the only person in the group who everyone assumed was a woman but had the voice of a man. The illusion was shattered, and I think I broke a few hearts that day. A couple of people quit the game and refused to talk to me again calling me lots of nasty names. But it was such a release that I had become addicted to playing the game. Spending hours of my life playing a computer game and expressing my real self through pixels. With the illusion shattered, I began to become bored of the game and eventually quit playing.

In the meanwhile, I had a great girlfriend. I never revealed myself to her but she suspected. She was bisexual and she introduced me to pegging which I loved because it wasn't just a sexual act with her, she would make the effort to treat me as though as I was a woman but she continued to use masculine pronouns that spoiled the illusion. Eventually we split up because she was non-white and was getting a lot of grief from her father about marrying someone of her own ethnicity and to satisfy him, she agreed to date people of her own race and met someone she had a lot more in common with than me. Dated him behind my back and then eventually left me for dry in the middle of Rome. That was that. In fact looking back on my love interests... all of my past girlfriends were bisexual and the thing that attracted me to them was that they treated me like one of the girls and as a man. Most of them left me for women.

But I soon met another woman and I decided this time to be upfront with her before things started getting too serious. After 2 weeks I revealed my history of wanting to be a woman and she was like, 'omg, that makes so much sense... I was wondering why sometimes you were acting so masculine and other times so feminine... it was so confusing' While I was thinking, it is confusing for you?  Imagine for me. At first she was great. She bought me make up and feminine clothes... we really explored my feminine side. Eventually, we got married. That is when things changed. Up to now, we had only really experimented with a bit of make up during sex or wearing some nice undergarments, or occasionally wearing a skirt around the flat. But one evening, we decided to go full fem mode with wig and everything. She refused to kiss me, hold me, and afterwards she said that she wasn't a lesbian and she was fine if I dressed in private but from now on she wanted me to be a man. Sex continued until she was pregnant with my daughter and then sex stopped completely... almost 8 years now. The last time we had sex something was said to the effect that I wasn't a real man... but it wasn't just the sex stopping... no more cuddles or kissing. She avoided my touch. I can live without the sex but the lack of love makes things hard. To be honest, I think we are only still married because of my wonderful daughter. She has learning difficulties and abandonment issues, for me and my wife to split would be a disaster for her and that is not a price I am willing to pay. I doubt our marriage will last after my daughter leaves the home. But until that time we will support her.

2 weeks ago I was given my notice, so I am trying to find new work and most of the applications have the equality boxes to fill in. And most of the time, I can unhappily keep myself in the mental cage but when you are faced with those boxes every day, it gets you down. I tick the male, heterosexual boxes because that is how I am living my life... but the reality, is that I should be ticking the woman/transgender, bisexual boxes instead. As a 46 year old, I am looking at 12-15 years before my daughter moves away from us with her own life, I am going to be around 60 years old... perhaps my wife will stay with me, perhaps she will leave... who knows. But I am going to be too old to think about transitioning and I am going to struggle to find a new partner at that age. That boat has sailed. Had I still been in my teens and still a size 5-6 shoe with the information I have now, perhaps, just perhaps, I would've stood up to my family and society and made the change and be free to be who I should be, who I am. But now, it is just simply not worth it. I wouldn't be who I really want to be even if I changed. I suggested to my wife that I try and find a way of having the surgery below but keep taking the male hormones, so that I would at least feel a little bit like me but she wouldn't entertain the idea... and to be honest it was little more than a fantasy.

I am normally not a person for labels... in fact I absolutely detest them... and hate the equality form with a vengeance but when you have to tick those boxes daily or have them wonder why you didn't tick them... it makes you think about what label do people think I am?  Would I be transgender?  or wouldn't I?  Because I decided not to do anything about who I should be in the world. The clues are there for anyone who actually bothers to look closely. My academic work reveals who I am if you read between the lines. My use of they/them/their instead of she/he/his/her etc. My choice of topics, seeking to bring down perceived notions of identity and pull down the barriers and restraints imposed by societal norms. It is amazing how nobody sees ME.

Most of the time I can put up with the person I present to the world. It is just at the moment, I am feeling a bit lonely and down... There are only two people in the world who know the real me, my wife, and a pen pal from my early 20s who stopped writing after I revealed my true self. I just wanted to say, 'hello, this is me, the real me' before I have to put myself back in my cage and continue living the lie so that everyone around me can be happy again.

Thank you for listening... and thank you for allowing me a moment.
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KathyLauren

Hi, Nym!

Welcome to Susan's.

What a tough position you are in!  I salute your decision to stay untransitioned with your wife until your daughter is of age.  It will be hard to do, but you have a good reason to do it.

Do not think that 60 is too old to start transitioning!  I started at 61.  (I am 63 now.)  There are lots of us older transitioners on the forum, in fact we might be in the majority.  It can certainly be done, and often with unexpected success.  With only a year and a half on HRT and no surgeries, I mostly "pass".

You may have a long tunnel ahead of you, but there is a light at the end of it.

Please feel free to stop by the Introductions forum to tell the members about yourself.  Here is some information that we like to share with new members:

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Northern Star Girl

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I see that our very lovely member @KathyLauren  has already welcomed you earlier this morning on another thread that you first posted on but please allow me to also warmly WELCOME you to Susan's Place

Thank you for coming to the forums and posting your thoughts, concerns and questions 
I am glad that you have become a member of Susan's Place because there are many members here that you can share your stories with like-minded individuals in a journey like yours and theirs.

I am thinking that you may lots more questions and concerns, this is the right place for you to be to find out what others have done that may have been in your circumstances.
   
You will find this a safe and friendly place to share with others  and to read about others similar trials, tribulations, and successes.  When frustrated or if you have successes you can share it here if you wish and receive support from others and offer support to others. ....

***It's also a very good chance that you might find that you will make some new friends here. 
Please come in and continue to be involved at your own pace. 

Included in the LINKS that  KathyLauren  posted below her earlier welcome message to you there is information about the site that will help you navigate around and best utilize the features here.   

Please look closely at the LINKS in RED, answers are there to many questions that new members ask. .... and be certain to go to the  Introductions forum  to introduce yourself to many more members here by clicking the LINK here or the Link that she provided.

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Alice V

Hey!

Yup, tough situation. But there's really a lot of elder people. I don't think you too old for transition (or love, if it turns out that you'll need a partner). You surely can find here new friends who won't judge you :)

Btw, in first part of your story I recognize myself :) damn teamspeaks >_<
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krobinson103

Your mental strength is admirable to be able to not transition. I have two children 6 and 12. Been married for 14 years. For 30 years I tried to pretend I was something I'm not. In the end it was too hard. I started transitioning at 43 and the results have been far beyond anything I could ever have dreamed of. Before that any intimacy with my wife was well and truly over since my t levels had crashed and I couldn't bring myself to add any more of that poison to my body.

I think that 60 won't be too old and if thats your path I wish you luck on it.
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SallyChoasAura

Welcome my friend to Susan's place!!! I'm so sorry that you're in such a bad place right now... my parents wouldn't listen to me if I tried to talk to them about my gender. They'd just say that I'm confused because I'm a teenager and that I'll grow out of it... I want you to know that things will get better for both of us soon. 🙂😉
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Alice (nym)

Thank you everyone... I had just planned to unburden myself and forget it... after all it is something I've lived with and kept secret for 44 years. But I really wanted to reply to SallyChoasAura...

Be brave. There is one thing I've seen with my daughter... she is brave, she is strong, and she has an inner strength that allows her to overcome her problems. She gets frustrated, she cries, she is kind, and she is very empathetic. Her obstacles have been her learning difficulties. She did not learn to speak until she was 5 years old. She has been bullied to the point where we had to move her schools. But each time she has fought hard to overcome her obstacles. She is my inspiration and greatest joy. I've seen her exhausted, crying and on the verge of giving up, but she has dug down and found an inner strength in order to win. There are many things that I am proud of her but the thing that stands out most to me, the one thing above all others, is her courage.

I wished that I had that kind of courage. When I was the same age as my daughter, I had a babysitter. I didn't think about it until the last couple of hours. I suspect she knew. There was one time when she wanted to put make up on me, dress me up, and play dolls with me but I was scared to let her. The next morning my sister told my parents about the incident and that was the last time we saw her. In hindsight, I really wished that I had had the courage to be myself with her. This is one of about 6 opportunities I had to reveal myself... and each time I was a coward.

Don't be a coward. There are some great YouTube channels of transgender teens talking about every aspect of their transition... from coming out to family, to issues about hormones and passing... it is a great resource that wasn't available when I was younger. Had it been, it might've given me the courage.

You be brave and be who you want to be. Don't live a life of regrets like myself. It might be rough with your parents but if you can make them see the courage it takes you to be who you are and if you can make them see the obstacles that you are fighting to overcome... I am sure they will be proud of you in the same way that I am proud of my daughter. It is her courage that makes me beam with pride.

Be Brave! Be You!
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Alice V

You have great daughter :)

I want to share with you something. It helped me once. Not sure if it helps you, because it was my experience, but maybe.

You know, though it mostly doesn't related to TG issues, I had a lot of mistakes and regrets too. I almost broke my life few times, just stopped in moment before it happened. And now I'm trying to fix it and endure it. I don't really know how exactly I came to such conclusion, but now I think all of it was inevitable. Call it destiny, if you want, but I prefer "determinism". Maybe it's because I liked sci-fi about time traveling where many of this stuff shows in different variations like "chaos theory" or "butterfly effect" (doesn't really matter, it all shows causal relations). Maybe it was because I've read some stuff about cells and how they actually working and it was so logical and determined. Maybe because of something else.

I forgive myself for my past because I couldn't made different choices and took different decisions, I was determined to do what I've done. We're products of our surroundings, upbringing, chemistry and who knows what else, and don't have any choice - that is what I believe in. Instead, now I just trying to learn from my past, be aware of my present and look in my future. It was some unburdened insight :D

Anyway, it's good that you find place where you can express your feelings.
"Don't try and blame me for your sins,
For the sun has burn me black.
Your hollow lives, this world in which we live -
I hurl it back."©Bruce Dickinson

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Alice (nym)

Thank you Vesh.

I find that my daughter's courage gives me courage. When I find myself facing an obstacle and wanting to give up... I draw upon her example. I think to myself, that she wouldn't want to see me being the coward that I am.

I find myself taking more risks in life, taking risks with my life and seeking out danger. Perhaps it is a midlife crisis but it has made me think more about who I am... I've had a rough couple of years where stress and anxiety ended up making me seriously ill. It has forced me to re-evaluate my life and make some major life changes... diet and exercise being the main changes. It is made me question, not who I am, because I know who I am, but made me question if I am being courageous in hiding myself for the benefit of the people around me, or if I am being a coward for not being myself.

My regret is that I didn't have the knowledge that I have today back when I was still a teenager and the world back then was less tolerant of transgender people (at least where I live). It is nothing that I can change, but it doesn't stop me regretting some of the choices I made. There is a difference between the choices I regret because at the time they seemed the right choice... I doubt I would've done anything different... but the choices I regret because I was not brave enough to be myself... those I would've done differently if I were to make them again.

AND YET, here I am, still the coward. So maybe I am being hypocritical telling someone else to be brave because I wasn't... but you are correct. We should learn from the past instead of regretting it.

Perhaps being here and expressing my feelings for the first time, is my first step to being more brave because I am finding my courage by being inspired by my daughter's courage.

2 years ago I was seriously ill in hospital. Today, I try to live my life to its fullest because tomorrow may be the last day. But it will never be full until I finally come to terms with the person I've kept secret from the world for so long.

I don't know... perhaps I am finding excuses. But that begs the question why am I finding excuses?  I have no doubt about who I should be... for 44 years I have gone to bed every night wishing I would wake up from this reality. That has never left me, not for a single day. Perhaps there is a destiny and mine was to father an amazing daughter... or perhaps it was just fear of the beatings I would inevitably have gotten had I revealed who I was meant to be. Perhaps the fear of abandonment my daughter suffers, is inherent in her father. In which case, what right do I have to tell someone else to show courage and be brave in the face of their parents.

Now I am rambling and typing from the top of my head... so I will stop. Perhaps it was a mistake unburdening myself here... It is not time for me to be who I am, if that time ever comes. Thank you for permitting me here though. It was helpful.
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KathyLauren

Quote from: Nym on August 17, 2018, 05:13:51 PM
AND YET, here I am, still the coward. So maybe I am being hypocritical telling someone else to be brave because I wasn't... but you are correct. We should learn from the past instead of regretting it.
I don't buy that, Nym.  You are postponing your own gratification for maybe 15 years or more, so that you can ensure the wellbeing of your daughter.  You made a difficult choice, and you intend to see it through.  That is a pretty darned courageous thing to do.
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Alice V

QuoteThere is a difference between the choices I regret because at the time they seemed the right choice... I doubt I would've done anything different... but the choices I regret because I was not brave enough to be myself... those I would've done differently if I were to make them again.
Don't you think you couldn't? Could it be that somewhere at corner of your mind you though it really was right choice? Maybe you protected yourself from being exposed? Or protect your family? Maybe it really was what you wanted at that moments? You know, human brains is quite complex matter. Sorry if I sound a bit insistively, I don't mean to. Exploring that questions up to you. You talk about cowardice and fears a lot, but all of us have it somewhere in our hearts, it comes from self-preservation instincts. You know, coward can survive where brave couldn't. Put aside gender issues. After all, you're human, with all it's pros and cons.

I wish you be okay and overcome your illness so you can continue to rising your great daughter and she'll continue inspire you. Only you can decide when start this path and should you even try, but you always can came here to talk or find therapist who can give you professional aid. Stay alive.
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Your hollow lives, this world in which we live -
I hurl it back."©Bruce Dickinson

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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. This was the right place for you to post. We have members who will never transition and other members who may take years before they transition. Transitioning isn't a requirement of this site however if you decide to, we will help you all we can. Stay here and explore your feelings because that is the real function of this site. Hope to see you around more.
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pamelatransuk

Hello Nym

I respect your decision not to consider transition for 12-15 years for a very worthwhile and courageous reason to look after your daughter. In 15 years you will be 61 - that is not too old - I started at 62.

May I suggest you try not to concern yourself with labels and boxes; just be who you are. You can complete them any way you wish or not complete them at all and as you have a right to privacy.

I wish you well in your life as a whole.

Hugs

Pamela


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