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Running in the dark... is this safe?

Started by Angela H, September 28, 2018, 07:58:33 AM

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Angela H

    Hi ladies,

    So, I've been on HRT for five months and I love the changes so far. I'm finally starting to like the way I look in the mirror and not just when I'm in full dress and makeup either. It's been great!

    Anyways, it's been my habit since before I started transitioning to go running in the mornings before the sun comes up (that way I don't have to deal with the desert heat  ;)).
   
    And, well, lately my Mom, my sister, other people I've spoken to have expressed concern about my safety. I live in kind of a crappy part of town and they don't think it's safe for me to go running in this area when the sun isn't even up yet. I used to just go running around the block my house is on, but I kept getting hassled so I moved my normal route to a nearby park that is next door to a police station (cop cars drive by every twenty minutes or so).

    Do you guys think it's safe? I still get bothered sometimes, but I think I should be pretty safe so close to a police station. On the other hand the park isn't lighted so early in the morning so I really am running in the dark. I used to think I should be pretty safe because I go running in gender neutral workout clothes and a ball cap, but just this last week I met an old lady walking her dog and she called me "young lady."

    What do you guys think? I don't really want to drive for half an hour in the morning just to get to a better part of town...
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sarah1972

Earlier this year I have been running at night. I know which routes to avoid in my town and I tried to keep to well-lit streets. There was always a bit of an odd feeling and once I had a car slow down and then turn a few times to drive past me slowly. This freaked me out a bit and I did run a bit faster to get to the next larger cross street. Given that I am pre-op I fear even more.

I will pick this up again but I am planning on getting some kind of protection, either a very loud sirene or even pepper spray. I do live in a really good part of town but there have been a few incidents or groping on our local jogging trail.

The key is always situational awareness, keep to busier and well-lit streets and the idea of running close to a police station is always a good one.

My alternative is my 24-hour fitness studio. If I really want to, I can go there and run on the treadmill.

If you do, consider some personal protection and always keep your phone handy. My smartwatch even has an SOS function which dials 911 with a certain key combination. As you, I run close to our local police station.

Stay safe!

Hugs,

Sarah

Quote from: Angela H on September 28, 2018, 07:58:33 AM
    Hi ladies,

    So, I've been on HRT for five months and I love the changes so far. I'm finally starting to like the way I look in the mirror and not just when I'm in full dress and makeup either. It's been great!

    Anyways, it's been my habit since before I started transitioning to go running in the mornings before the sun comes up (that way I don't have to deal with the desert heat  ;)).
   
    And, well, lately my Mom, my sister, other people I've spoken to have expressed concern about my safety. I live in kind of a crappy part of town and they don't think it's safe for me to go running in this area when the sun isn't even up yet. I used to just go running around the block my house is on, but I kept getting hassled so I moved my normal route to a nearby park that is next door to a police station (cop cars drive by every twenty minutes or so).

    Do you guys think it's safe? I still get bothered sometimes, but I think I should be pretty safe so close to a police station. On the other hand the park isn't lighted so early in the morning so I really am running in the dark. I used to think I should be pretty safe because I go running in gender neutral workout clothes and a ball cap, but just this last week I met an old lady walking her dog and she called me "young lady."

    What do you guys think? I don't really want to drive for half an hour in the morning just to get to a better part of town...

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Sarah1979

I would also like to suggest a piece of visibility gear that I use on my early morning runs... noxgear.com.  (I'm not trying to advertise, I just like it a lot.)  I know it's not related to being trans, but I would hate for you to be hit by a car that simply didn't see you.
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Jessica

I think any woman running in a unlit area is vulnerable to attack.  Though I avoid running when it's dark, it's mainly for good running surface visibility, but when I do it's always with a running partner and a light and reflective clothing.  If you are a lone runner, have some type of defense with you, be it sound emitting device, pepper spray or weapon.

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BrianaJ

I used to run in the dark but stopped for many reasons.  Safety and visibility were the main ones.  I loved to run in the morning while it was dark.  I timed it so I'd be back home just as that sun was coming up and my little part of the world was waking up.  Each season brought something different that I always found joy in.  It helped me feel energized for the day. 

Over time, I've come to believe that running in the dark, be it morning or night, isn't really safe for males or females.  There's a lot of creeps out there.  I feel that regardless if you're urban, suburban, or rural, you're pretty vulnerable when your running.  I stick to day time hours now. 

Visibility is also an issue, especially in this era of very distracted driving.  It just amazes and troubles me sometimes when drivers don't see you even when you're in neon clothing and waving a flashlight.  You know...cause that text from their BFF is so important.  I just don't want to increase my odd of getting hit these days.  LOL
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Northern Star Girl

Heya Ladies:   
Here are my thoughts on all of this, some of what I am saying has already been mentioned by the other members that have commented on this thread.

Not just running in the dark ALONE, which is definitely not advisable, this is a no-brainer.  
It is also not advisable running alone day or night on isolated trails, tree covered parks, and rural country roads that have very few homes and very little traffic.

There have just been way too many NEWS stories for any of  us to ignore about the daytime disappearances of women running, jogging or walking alone and to not understand that for the most part, a woman running or walking alone just about anywhere, day or night,  where a lot of people are NOT nearby and around, is not a good idea.   
Even in town and populated areas I almost always have a walking/running buddy with me... safety in numbers...   where legal, pepper spray is good to carry, also a loud whistle, and always have your cell phone with you..

If I do run, jog or walk alone, which is not very often, it is almost always in town, on town streets where there are nearby people, stores, businesses and street lights.... especially where I am living... in the winter time here there is much more darkness that there is daylight....  even in the late morning and early afternoon.

I never go hiking into the hills and mountains alone, and I always have a walking buddy or two with me when enjoying the great outdoors wilderness areas...

Wherever you are and wherever you go, always be aware of your surroundings and of the various people and vehicles that you come across.  NEVER wear earbuds or headphones listening to loud music while hiking, running, jogging or walking.... obviously you would not be able to readily hear people or vehicles approaching you from behind.

A additional note:  It you do go out alone, it is very wise to tell someone, a friend, a neighbor, etc, of your plans, including the route and times, and when you plan to return home.

Be smart, be careful and be safe.
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itsApril

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I know there will be some cross-country runners who are dedicated to real-world running.  But seriously, join a gym.

Treadmills are quite variable for speed and incline.  Most treadmills have some provision for monitoring your heart rate (this is very useful if you're tracking cardio fitness!).  Most estimate your calories burned, which can be useful info for diet and weight control.

On a treadmill in an air-conditioned gym, it doesn't matter whether it's 38 degrees outside or 110 degrees.  It doesn't matter if it's raining or snowing.  You're not going to get run over by a truck, bitten by a stray dog, or break your ankle tripping over a tree root in the park.  You won't get ambushed by a maniac on a lonely road, then chloroformed and abducted in a rusty van, never to be heard of again.

Beyond that, the gym probably has lots of other cardio equipment besides treadmills: stair-climbers, ellipticals (my favorite!), stationary bicycles, rowing machines. etc.  It also has a range of weight machines and free weights.  If you're interested (I'm not), it may have group exercise classes.  Some folks like 'em.

My basic gym membership costs me $10 a month.  Best money I ever spent!  It would be worth it at three times the price.  (I hope my gym doesn't read this and jack up the price!)
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barbie

#7
I sometimes wonder why crime and violence is so widespread in the U.S. Here in South Korea, anybody can walk and run alone at 2 AM at any place, although some people caution that young women have better avoid walking alone in some bleak areas at night. https://youtu.be/4G9OZfxfDDM

Yes. I remember that a young guy tried to talk to me when I ran alone in a suburban area of Maryland about 15 years ago. It was daytime, and I just ignored it, and the place was relatively safe by the U.S. standard. There I could run alone even at night.

About a week ago, I experienced an interesting moment. I biked alone along a narrow paved road in a highland area here. It was completely dark, as there was virtually no light, except the small headlamp and the tiny taillight of my bike. Cars and even buses sometimes passed me. Suddenly one car passed me and the driver shouted at me. He asked me whether I need a headlamp, adding that he can give me his lamp. As I was busy pedaling, I ignored it. Then the car followed me, lighting up the road ahead of me. Other cars passed that car. Yes. The car lights helped a lot, but I did not need it so desperately. The driver again shouted that he can give his lamp. I felt that another young man sits on the passenger's seat, as the drive chatted with somebody. I replied that I already have a lamp, and I do not need it. Because they heard my manly voice, as I guess, then they passed me and left. Anyway they were very kind.

Two days ago, I rode to a monumental place here for its 1,100 m (3,600 ft) altitude. It became completely dark when I arrived there. All lights were turned off with no visitor except me. I could see only passing cars and sometimes public buses. I rode downhill 20 km (12 miles) to my house. It was really thrilling, but could be dangerous as I could not see well ahead. I pressed the breaks to slow down. As there was virtually no pedestrian, no chance of crime. The real danger was from passing cars. Fortunately all cars slowed down as they saw the flashes from the tiny taillight.





My friends said to me that I have better avoid night riding, as cars, not passersby, can threat and put me in danger.

Just my story.

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KathyLauren

Safety is highly location-dependent.  You have to know the safe and unsafe areas where you live and run.  Where I live, you would be very safe running at night, so long as you wore a reflective vest for visibility.  Yet we all know places where even being alone in the daytime is unsafe, never mind at night.

You just have to learn your area.  Talk to other female runners.  Ask them where they do and don't go.  Ask them for safety tips relevant to your area.
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Gertrude

You didn't say where you live. I live in the desert and like to hike before the sun comes up. I actually do it kilted with a boot knife in my kilt hose. I live in a good town though in AZ. If I felt less safe I'd carry.


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Lyric

I'll vote a hardy NO, NO and NO. While not a distance runner, I enjoy long walks and bicycling, but I never do it after dark. Bicycling (as Barbie did) becomes much more dangerous after dark because drivers may not see you or may be sleepy. If you must exercise after dark, find a way to do it at home or at a gym, not on the streets. Most accidents and crimes involving joggers, bicyclers and such occur after dark. Don't do it, please.
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Alice V

QuoteSafety is highly location-dependent.
This.
Where I live it's safe in daylights but everything is possible after sun go down. And, you know, we here don't really trust cops because they might make things even worse then before, and usually people ignore it if anybody in troubles nearby, so it's risky.
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Donica

I would have to suggest at the very least carry a can of pepper spray. It's easy to get, easy to carry, even in a fanny pack, and in the event of a attack, it will give you time to escape. I carry mine and my phone everywhere, regardless of time of day, safe or unsafe places. It is part of the everyday things I keep in my purse. I don't run anymore but I do a lot of walking, and never after dark.

Be safe!
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Northern Star Girl

Quote from: Donica on September 29, 2018, 11:03:58 AM
I would have to suggest at the very least carry a can of pepper spray. It's easy to get, easy to carry, even in a fanny pack, and in the event of a attack, it will give you time to escape. I carry mine and my phone everywhere, regardless of time of day, safe or unsafe places. It is part of the everyday things I keep in my purse. I don't run anymore but I do a lot of walking, and never after dark.

Be safe!
Donica.

@Donica
Dear Donica:
I do indeed keep a small pepper spray in my purse but when I go out in the woods and forest trails I carry something more effective, especially for defending against dangerous and aggressive wildlife.

In the middle of the day when I am just walking, jogging or running around my local town streets where there are lots of people around I feel quite safe being alone, but as evening encroaches, I will always have a friend or two with me.... safety in numbers.
Better safe than sorry.

IMPORTANT NOTE:   Pepper spray is not legal in Canada and the UK and many other countries...  the exception in Canada is that Bear Spray  (bigger can and more concentrated formula) is OK as long as it is used as it is "intended to be used."

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Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on September 29, 2018, 11:31:30 AM
@Donica
Dear Donica:
I do indeed keep a small pepper spray in my purse but when I go out in the woods and forest trails I carry something more effective, especially for defending against dangerous and aggressive wildlife.

In the middle of the day when I am just walking, jogging or running around my local town streets where there are lots of people around I feel quite safe being alone, but as evening encroaches, I will always have a friend or two with me.... safety in numbers.
Better safe than sorry.

IMPORTANT NOTE:   Pepper spray is not legal in Canada and the UK and many other countries...  the exception in Canada is that Bear Spray  (bigger can and more concentrated formula) is OK as long as it is used as it is "intended to be used."

Danielle



Oh yes Danielle! I remember your GP-100 and that new cute little .380 you now carry. There's no messing around with Danielle. I'm glad we are friends.

Yes, being a SoCal girl my self, I did run into some legal pepper spray issues in my state. We are only allowed to carry no more than 2.5oz at a time. And I believe no more than 10% OC. I could be wrong but as I understand, California is the only lower 48 state with this restriction. I did not know it was illegal in Canada and the UK. I just don't understand why. It is a non-lethal form of protection.

Keep those Critters on their toes Danielle!
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Angela H

    Thanks for all the responses everybody. I guess I was being a little foolhardy.  :embarrassed:

    You've convinced me to join a gym and just go running there. I'm sure my mom will be happy to hear it :)
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