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Started by ShannonH, September 24, 2018, 05:04:50 PM

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ShannonH

Hello!

So after seeing my therapist and coming to terms to myself about who I am and want to be there is one very important thing I still need to do, telling my girlfriend of 8 years.

So about a 2 months ago I told her I was bisexual, she already knew that anyway lol and she is quite happy about that, so that is fantastic.

But I have never told her about how I have wanted or felt the need to be a women from the age of 6.
I haven't told her I wear woman's clothes secretly and the fact I have never had a male friend and that I hate pretending to be macho or manly.. She knows I am different to males but she hasn't picked up on it yet.

My question is, how did everyone else handle telling their partner? I just don't know how to put it into words so it doesn't sound like I am just a lost mentally unstable sole lol

I know she will realise though because the signs are all there but we have just both been blinded by it this whole time.

Also the crazy thing is, I used to not be able to even admit to myself the simplest things that was considered "not normal" let alone other people, but thinking about becoming who I want to be is really starting to feel like a reality and not just a dream. I just don't want to ruin everything in the process.

Thanks!
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krobinson103

Quote from: ShannonH on September 24, 2018, 05:04:50 PM
Hello!

So after seeing my therapist and coming to terms to myself about who I am and want to be there is one very important thing I still need to do, telling my girlfriend of 8 years.

So about a 2 months ago I told her I was bisexual, she already knew that anyway lol and she is quite happy about that, so that is fantastic.

But I have never told her about how I have wanted or felt the need to be a women from the age of 6.
I haven't told her I wear woman's clothes secretly and the fact I have never had a male friend and that I hate pretending to be macho or manly.. She knows I am different to males but she hasn't picked up on it yet.

My question is, how did everyone else handle telling their partner? I just don't know how to put it into words so it doesn't sound like I am just a lost mentally unstable sole lol

I know she will realise though because the signs are all there but we have just both been blinded by it this whole time.

Also the crazy thing is, I used to not be able to even admit to myself the simplest things that was considered "not normal" let alone other people, but thinking about becoming who I want to be is really starting to feel like a reality and not just a dream. I just don't want to ruin everything in the process.

Thanks!
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I've been there. My wife and I have been married almost fifteen years and when I could finally no longer pretend to be what I am not she was shocked to say the least. I have to say, be honest and tell her what you are thinking and where you want to go. In addition, be prepared to compromise because the cost of not is to lose her.

We are separating because she can't be lesbian, but we remain co parents and (relatively) friendly. That being said the loss of a relationship to gain life as it should be is a very small price indeed for me. I'm willing to lose everything. Fortunately I don't need to.
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KathyLauren

Just be straightforward and honest with her.

My conversation went something like this:
Me: There's somethiing I need to tell you.  It is difficult to talk about, and I am not sure how you wiill take it.  I am pretty sure I am transgender.
Her: Why do you think that?
Me: All my life I have wanted to be a woman.
Her: That doesn't make you transgendeer.
Me: Actually, it's pretty close to the definition of it.
Her: Why haven't you told me before now?
Me: I was in denial.  I kept wondering and convincing myself that it couldn't be true.  I didn't believe it myself.
Her: What are you going to do?
Me: Well, I DON'T want to leave you.  I suppose I should find a therapist and try to figure out what to do next.

As you can see, her questions were pretty predictable.  I anticipated them and had the answers ready.  Your partner's questions may be different, but you know her and can likely predict what she will ask.  Be ready for the "why now?" question, and for the "will you leave me?" question.  Answer the latter one even if she doesn't ask it.
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Sonja

@ShannonH
I really think what KathyLauren said above is really worth considering.

When I came out to my wife it was a combination of already being a bit different - as in not bloky or very masculine in that way, having a noticeable soft feminine side that was very obvious when hanging around with her and other girls etc but the actual conversation when I officially came out was rather jumbled which is why it would be better to take advice from Kathy..lol. I actually realized when talking to my wife just how bad i was at talking about myself - and I really wasn't prepared for that. Not being able to talk about yourself can really make a mess of things so its best to have a really coherent plan beforehand. 

Having said that I did do a few things right  - always making her feel really special, elevating her femininity so that it doesn't feel threatened by mine,  taking things slowly  -as in making the visible changes happen slowly over time so she can get used to it. Identify the things she ok with and the things she finds difficult and create a plan to win her over through time.  Never be aggressive or confrontational about any of this - it really doesn't get you anywhere positive.

I wish you the best,

Sonja.
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JanePlain

Thank you all for discussing this topic which weighs heavy on my mind.   My being in touch with my feminine side isn't a mystery to my wife.  My having some physical changes from not being able to take an aromatase inhibitor mixed up my hormones and she is more then just ok which is a relief.  Explaining my being more then ok with this is very difficult to say the least.  Admitting I decided to go from screwed up testosterone / estrogen mix to a normal (female) estrogen / testosterone mix... Well hopefully the gender therapist will have some helpful suggestions.

Quote from: KathyLauren on September 24, 2018, 08:01:03 PM
Just be straightforward and honest with her.

My conversation went something like this:
Me: There's somethiing I need to tell you.  It is difficult to talk about, and I am not sure how you wiill take it.  I am pretty sure I am transgender.
Her: Why do you think that?
Me: All my life I have wanted to be a woman.
Her: That doesn't make you transgendeer.
Me: Actually, it's pretty close to the definition of it.
Her: Why haven't you told me before now?
Me: I was in denial.  I kept wondering and convincing myself that it couldn't be true.  I didn't believe it myself.
Her: What are you going to do?
Me: Well, I DON'T want to leave you.  I suppose I should find a therapist and try to figure out what to do next.

As you can see, her questions were pretty predictable.  I anticipated them and had the answers ready.  Your partner's questions may be different, but you know her and can likely predict what she will ask.  Be ready for the "why now?" question, and for the "will you leave me?" question.  Answer the latter one even if she doesn't ask it.
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Rayna

I told my wife about a year and a half ago. I was quite unclear about it and we had many hard discussions. It's taken until now for me to have much understanding mainly through counseling and through introspection. I'm finally able to explain myself fairly well, but answering the "why?" may never happen.

So be as communicative as you can, and hold out hope for better understanding in the future as you work through it and gain experience.

As said above, pay her a lot of attention and make her feel special. Don't do anything to sabotage what you've got.

Kathy's suggestions are about the best, but I didn't know all the answers back then.

We are just coming off a 3 month separation during which I explored my femme side considerably and she strengthened her independence. We both decided we'd rather get back together and now have some boundaries and protocols established. I'm moving all my femme stuff to a "Ma'am Cave" in the basement, although we can share laundry.

Good luck!

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Alice (nym)

My first reveal to her was in bed, looking up at the ceiling, unable to keep eye contact with her, she was cuddling me with her head on my chest. I did it after the first week of dating and when we ended up in bed, I knew this might be something a bit more serious.

I just said, 'There is something you need to know, I've always wanted to be a woman'... well that's a translation of my very poor Japanese (which admittedly was a lot better back then). Her response was, 'of course, that makes sense now, it was like dating two people' (again translation from the Japanese).

I don't remember much else to be honest, but it was great for a while. She bought me some clothes and make up. We spent a good couple of years. We got married. etc. But eventually she called a stop to it and I've tried to be male for her since then but without much success. 

Then I talked to her a second time, literally last week. I just sat down with her at the kitchen table with a cup of tea each and said, 'You remember I told you that I've always wanted to be a woman...'
Cautiously, she replied 'yes'
'Well, the panic or anxiety attack I had on Friday was because of that and I am having great difficulty putting the lid back on the box'

She asked me questions about it. I answered honestly. I explained to her that it was like a bottomless ocean... it will always be there lapping at the shore, sometimes the tide comes in and the feelings are intense, sometimes it is out and I can manage them. Right now, the tide is the highest it has been since I was teenager and it won't go back out.

Eventually we agreed that I needed to see the doctor to make an appoint to see a gender specialist. I said I wanted to try being more open about who I am. She said she had missed the kind and happy me. We agreed not to tell my daughter for at least 5 years when she will be at an age where she will understand better. We agreed never to tell my Dad - that would not be a good idea. We debated about my sister but not before my daughter. I told her that I wanted to be a Dad to my daughter, I didn't want to be a second mother, and I wanted to be her husband but the feelings of wanting to be a woman are really intense right now and the more I've read and the more people I've talked to online, the more I know that they are only going to get worse unless I address the issue now. She said that if I transition she will support me because I told her from the start but she would move back to Japan with her mother, and would prefer that I did not transition before my daughter left home. I can't guarantee that bit, but we agreed to wait until seeing the experts and cross that bridge when it comes. Then she burst into tears because she has missed me talking to her. The longer the male attempt was going on, the more withdrawn and non-responsive I became. So yesterday I spent nearly all day just catching up with what has been happening in her life in terms of her friends. Listening to her talk, asking questions and being more attentive.

So a bit more detail on the 2nd time because it is more fresh in my memory than the first time.

Good luck.
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LizK

We had been engaged for about 3 months and my GD was going through the roof(didn't know then what it was called) and I didn't think it fair to marry her without telling her I have this "issue". She looked at me, smiled and said "so long as you don't want to be a woman I don't care" I was stunned but life's funny when we talked about that dinner 32 years later and she really doesn't remember that much about it...I think we both understood that neither of us understood much about it.When I finally couldn't live the way I was anymore I sat her down, told her how I felt, what I had been thinking, why and what I thought I needed to do and how my GD driven life choices fitted into my life and therefore her life it was like a number of things suddenly made sense to her. I told her first up I didn't want to leave her nor did I want her to leave me so on that basis we moved forward. There is far more involved in that story but far too long for here.

Best thing is to be honest...it may go way better than you think and it may also take some time for her to process. Her first reaction may not be her complete reaction she make take a bit of time.

I hope it works out really well for you

Liz
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Susan Baum

Shannon, this is probably the hardest conversation you will ever have to start with someone you love - but a whole lot easier than the internal turmoil of getting there.

I had been dating my bride for a while and knew she had stolen my heart but I knew I had to reveal my crossdressing to her at some point. One night after a dinner, we had a conversation that was remarkably similar to KathyLauren's; her response was to ask to meet the "other" me the next night at my place.

I took off work early to have time to get ready; my hair (wig) and make-up were as perfect as I could get and supper prepared when she arrived. As we sat down to eat and started talking she suddenly stopped in mid-sentence. Looking me in the eyes, she told me the name I was using was all wrong for me and called me Susan. It was a tearful night for both.

We spent many years together as CD and wife until the time when she realized that the real Susan needed more than "just dressing" and was the one who suggested that I should maybe consider hormones and transitioning about the same time those same thoughts had just begun to burble into my consciousness. The rest, as they say, is just herstory.

The longer you wait, the worse your torment will be. Yes, there is a chance of rejection but would it not be better to discover that before you've invested the rest of life in a lost dream?

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ShannonH

Thank you All for your support and amazing reply's, it really helps to feel the support is there when you need it! :)

Just an update for you all, I finally bit the bullet and told my partner everything that is going on with me right from the beginning at around the age of 6 right up until now and me seeing a therapist.

I have finally got an appointment with a lovely clinical phycologist next week and she is very experienced with transgender /gender issues so I am so excited to be able to find out more about myself over the next few weeks.

My partner took it really well and she was very supportive, although she was obviously upset and had some questions regarding what it all means for us and the future, Firstly I told her I loved her more than anything and that I do need her as my partner.

But she did say she is not a lesbian, and is not attracted to women. She keeps saying she does not want me to pretend I am anyone else but my self anymore which is amazing and makes me feel so much better but on the other hand I don't think she would stay with me if I were to do any kind of transition, this makes it so so hard.

Although she did make a joke and said If I ever decide to do anything in the future I better not get bigger boobs then hers lol

Thankfully, my partner follows a few transgender women on Facebook and has shown an interest in transgender women in the past so she has also said to me a number of times she knows how it works,  she doesn't want me to turn around when I am 50 - 60 years old and have regrets.

I do believe I am blessed that this has gone very well so far, but why am I so upset?

Thank you :)
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KathyLauren

Shannon, congratulations!  Coming out to your wife is a huge step, but you did it!

I am glad you have a therapy appointment set up.  That is a great way to process everything.

I don't know why you are upset.  Perhaps because there may be a change in your relationship in the future?  It could happen, I suppose.  But, from what you have told us, it is too soon to get upset about it.  Your wife is understandably surprised and confused.  But she is supportive, and that is huge. 

Worst case, perhaps you separate but remain good friends.  Best case, you remain together in a refreshed relationship.  Just take it slow and communicate well.

My wife didn't see herself as a lesbian, either.  But she has remained my number one supporter, and we are staying together.  She jokes about becoming a lesbian through no choice of her own.  Our lesbian neighbour, hearing that, play-punched her in the arm and said, "Thanks for taking one for the team."

Your wife, too can see humour in the situation, and that is a good thing.
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Gabrielle66

Quote from: ShannonH on September 28, 2018, 06:35:23 PM
Thank you All for your support and amazing reply's, it really helps to feel the support is there when you need it! :)

Just an update for you all, I finally bit the bullet and told my partner everything that is going on with me right from the beginning at around the age of 6 right up until now and me seeing a therapist.

I have finally got an appointment with a lovely clinical phycologist next week and she is very experienced with transgender /gender issues so I am so excited to be able to find out more about myself over the next few weeks.

My partner took it really well and she was very supportive, although she was obviously upset and had some questions regarding what it all means for us and the future, Firstly I told her I loved her more than anything and that I do need her as my partner.

But she did say she is not a lesbian, and is not attracted to women. She keeps saying she does not want me to pretend I am anyone else but my self anymore which is amazing and makes me feel so much better but on the other hand I don't think she would stay with me if I were to do any kind of transition, this makes it so so hard.

Although she did make a joke and said If I ever decide to do anything in the future I better not get bigger boobs then hers lol

Thankfully, my partner follows a few transgender women on Facebook and has shown an interest in transgender women in the past so she has also said to me a number of times she knows how it works,  she doesn't want me to turn around when I am 50 - 60 years old and have regrets.

I do believe I am blessed that this has gone very well so far, but why am I so upset?

Thank you :)

Let me tell you as someone who turned around at 52 with regrets I applaud your courage in keeping true to your inner woman. My wife feels much like your girlfriend in that she is adamant about not identifying as a lesbian. I don't even think in those terms. I'm simply Gabrielle and I love Kenna. Perhaps my wife and your girlfriend will come to know us as the same person that they always loved. Perhaps not, but I can have hope and faith. I wish you all the good things life can hand you Shannon. Love and faith.

Gabrielle
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