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Changing Mannerisms?

Started by Gabrielle66, October 16, 2018, 02:08:06 PM

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Gabrielle66

I am looking for some advice about how to try to alter some of my very masculine mannerisms. I have three things that I struggle with the most. They are the caveman slump when I eat. I can't seem to stop leaning in and eating while slumped forward. This one is by far the hardest one to alter. I have definitely notices that women almost exclusively sit up straight and bring food to themselves with a fork or whatever is appropriate. They don't slouch forward to take each bite. Anything you can suggest, I'd be willing to try. Second, thing is looking down when I walk. Why this one is so difficult I don't know. I am getting better about thinking about this when I walk around but again, any suggestions would be welcome. The last things is keeping my hands out of my pockets. This one just seems so natural I don't even realize that I'm doing it most of the time. What have you all tried to keep your hands out of your pockets? Of course, if I were wearing something with no pockets that would simplify things but for now I am still guy mode with dress pants and jeans more often than not. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have to offer. Love and faith.

Gabrielle
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JannaLM

Quote from: Gabrielle66 on October 16, 2018, 02:08:06 PM
The last things is keeping my hands out of my pockets. This one just seems so natural I don't even realize that I'm doing it most of the time. What have you all tried to keep your hands out of your pockets?

Hi Gabrielle!

I'm stuck in the rut of the 'man slouch' and looking down when I walk too.

I have gotten better with the hands in pockets one though! I usually where sweatshirts, and to keep myself from putting my hands in my pockets, I kind of folded part of the sweatshirt cuffs into my hand. That way it would feel awkward to try and put them in my pockets, and so I just tried to avoid that and left them out. It took awhile to get used to, and I am still working on breaking the habit, but now I find myself with my hands covered by the sweatshirt cuffs more often than not... Still covered up, but progress!
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Northern Star Girl

Quote from: Gabrielle66 on October 16, 2018, 02:08:06 PM
I am looking for some advice about how to try to alter some of my very masculine mannerisms. I have three things that I struggle with the most. They are the caveman slump when I eat. I can't seem to stop leaning in and eating while slumped forward. This one is by far the hardest one to alter. I have definitely notices that women almost exclusively sit up straight and bring food to themselves with a fork or whatever is appropriate. They don't slouch forward to take each bite. Anything you can suggest, I'd be willing to try. Second, thing is looking down when I walk. Why this one is so difficult I don't know. I am getting better about thinking about this when I walk around but again, any suggestions would be welcome. The last things is keeping my hands out of my pockets. This one just seems so natural I don't even realize that I'm doing it most of the time. What have you all tried to keep your hands out of your pockets? Of course, if I were wearing something with no pockets that would simplify things but for now I am still guy mode with dress pants and jeans more often than not. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have to offer. Love and faith.

Gabrielle

@Gabrielle66
Dear Gabrielle:
You have done a good job in your post comments describing clearly about some of the things that you need to improve upon.
       >Slumping forward when eating
        >Looking down when walking
         >Hands in pockets    (note:  @JannaLM had a good suggestion when wearing sweatshirts.)
Obviously you have been thinking about this a lot, and more than likely you have done quite a bit of people watching to see for yourself how women's mannerisms differ from men's ...   

...be aware that there are a lot more things that women do differently than men,
  >like how they walk with their legs more together,
  >eating in smaller mouthfuls,
  >talking with their hands,
  >more expressive facial expressions,
  >sitting with legs together or crossed and not spread apart,
etc, etc.... so many more to consider.... more people watching should be in your plans I would think.

The solutions are obvious but requires your focus and determination to make the neccessary corrections.   These things play a big part in being gendered correctly and passing reliably.  Of course, appearance, hair, clothing, shoes, handbag/purse, makeup and cosmetic enhancements, eyebrow trimming and shaping, reducing or eliminating body and face hair, fingernail and toenail appearance and polishing perhaps, if you wear eyeglasses switch to a feminine frame, jewellery including rings, necklaces and pierced earrings, and don't forget about a more a feminine appearing wristwatch and iPhone case.... and much, much more....   again, more people watching may be helpful.

Thank you for posting and sharing your thoughts.
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To stop looking down, I've started to look at the ground ahead and calculate potential obstacles in advance. For pockets, I wear a jacket with zips on the pockets and keep them zipped up, and try to keep it down over the trouser pockets. Slouching is something I am working on.

Tonight I went to the local trans group for the first time... and I always sit with my legs crossed, I am sitting with them crossed now... and I found myself sitting like a bloke in company where it is perfectly acceptable for me to cross my legs. I couldn't believe it - lol. I guess it is because they were new people for me and I am that used to having to consciously sit differently in other people's company.

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Gabrielle66

Quote from: Alice (nym) on October 16, 2018, 05:25:10 PM
To stop looking down, I've started to look at the ground ahead and calculate potential obstacles in advance. For pockets, I wear a jacket with zips on the pockets and keep them zipped up, and try to keep it down over the trouser pockets. Slouching is something I am working on.

Tonight I went to the local trans group for the first time... and I always sit with my legs crossed, I am sitting with them crossed now... and I found myself sitting like a bloke in company where it is perfectly acceptable for me to cross my legs. I couldn't believe it - lol. I guess it is because they were new people for me and I am that used to having to consciously sit differently in other people's company.

love
Alice

Alice,

I am unable to properly cross my legs without serious discomfort. I am too heavy for that. I cross my ankles and do my best to keep my knees together. I've always crossed my ankles but keeping the knees together is something I have been trying to do lately. I just prefer the feeling of being a lady if I can. Like you, it's all a work in progress. I don't mind doing it though. Love and faith.

Gabrielle
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zirconia

Hi, Gabrielle

To me it would really seem that neither slouching while eating nor looking down while walking is a specific male mannerism, but both are rather related to posture in general. Mine improved when I wore a corset after an accident. It pretty quickly made me realize that sitting, standing and walking straight and balanced actually takes less energy.

If you're strong this part may not be a big deal other than visually, but I did also find myself moving much more fluidly and easily in general with all muscles sharing the weight.

As for the pockets, if you don't really use them for holding something that needs to be there, might stitching them shut for a while help?
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Northern Star Girl

Quote from: zirconia on October 16, 2018, 08:12:36 PM
Hi, Gabrielle

To me it would really seem that neither slouching while eating nor looking down while walking is a specific male mannerism, but both are rather related to posture in general. Mine improved when I wore a corset after an accident. It pretty quickly made me realize that sitting, standing and walking straight and balanced actually takes less energy.

If you're strong this part may not be a big deal other than visually, but I did also find myself moving much more fluidly and easily in general with all muscles sharing the weight.

As for the pockets, if you don't really use them for holding something that needs to be there, might stitching them shut for a while help?


@zirconia   @Gabrielle66   @Alice (nym)  @JannaLM

 
Slouching when eating and when walking or sitting are indeed posture issues, and looking down when walking or talking to others and also looking away are self-confidence issues...
... those mannerisms definitely give the signal to others that are looking at you that you may have low self-esteem and low self confidence... and since we are trying to convince those that see us that we are indeed female we need to exude esteem, confidence and self-assurance...  also having a big smile on your face is so very disarming to those that may want to react badly to you.

Just my personal opinion, that is all.
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Danielle
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Gabrielle66

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on October 16, 2018, 08:48:44 PM

@zirconia   @Gabrielle66   @Alice (nym)  @JannaLM

 
Slouching when eating and when walking or sitting are indeed posture issues, and looking down when walking or talking to others and also looking away are self-confidence issues...
... those mannerisms definitely give the signal to others that are looking at you that you may have low self-esteem and low self confidence... and since we are trying to convince those that see us that we are indeed female we need to exude esteem, confidence and self-assurance...  also having a big smile on your face is so very disarming to those that may want to react badly to you.

Just my personal opinion, that is all.
Hugs,
Danielle


Danielle,

I completely agree. They are products of my low self esteem. It's something I am hoping to improve with the help of my therapist. I'm certain that part of it is feeling wrong in who I've been for all these years. Inside I just wanted to be a woman and not having that as a possibility was extremely deflating to my self esteem. The problem is that I didn't realize that was the problem. I buried my feminine self so deep that she could only haunt me from a distance. I honestly believe that as my self confidence improves, so will my ability to project the me that I want to be. Love and faith.

Gabrielle
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