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Have people thought you to be non-heterosexual male because of your femininity?

Started by ChrissyRyan, October 31, 2018, 02:07:12 PM

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ChrissyRyan

I was wondering if you think that people have mistakenly thought (you know somehow that they expressed their thought) that you are a male non-heterosexual, gay, sissy, etc. (and you are not any of those) because of your outward femininity, rather than thinking of you as having a female gender? 

Please note that no negative judgments are being made here about these categories that do not represent you or me.  They are just mistaken categories for you or me.  If these categories do represent you, please note that you are not being diminished or disrespected here with this question.

Also note that this question of misinterpretation occurring applies to any stage of transition, whether dressed as female, male, or androgynously.  Maybe you simply look somewhat female but also male to these people and they make these misinterpretations.

This question is not simply people thinking you are a man dressed in female clothing.  This is about when you know that they are making these types of mistaken inferences about your sexuality and they think you are male.

Chrissy






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Bari Jo

Nearly my entirely life this was the impression people had of me.  I've even been asked if I've ever dated women.  As if it was inconceivable that I could have been a straight male.  It used to bother me, when I was in denial about being trans.  Now, not so much.  Even if they have that impression of me still, I'm not as bothered.  In time I'll be perceived as a woman.

Bari Jo
you know how far the universe extends outward? i think i go inside just as deep.

10/11/18 - out to the whole world.  100% friends and family support.
11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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ErinAscending

For the 20 years I have known her, my wife has teased me on various occasions with , "Are you sure you're not gay?", or "You're more of a woman than I am."

This was all before I came out and while I was so repressed that I didn't have the slightest clue much less her.  That's also why her denial phase simply never happened when I did come out to her.

I also used to get hit on by gay men really frequently.  My wife and other acquaintances I had in college actually commented on it because they noticed it happened all the time.  "Dude.  You get hit on by guys a lot!  Maybe you should switch teams!"  This was before my wife and I were seeing each other and she chimed in, "You certainly wouldn't be hard up for dates!"

Little did they know...  And little did I.

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Arianna Valentine

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on October 31, 2018, 02:07:12 PM
I was wondering if you think that people have mistakenly thought (you know somehow that they expressed their thought) that you are a male non-heterosexual, gay, sissy, etc. (and you are not any of those) because of your outward femininity, rather than thinking of you as having a female gender? 

Please note that no negative judgments are being made here about these categories that do not represent you or me.  They are just mistaken categories for you or me.  If these categories do represent you, please note that you are not being diminished or disrespected here with this question.

Also note that this question of misinterpretation occurring applies to any stage of transition, whether dressed as female, male, or androgynously.  Maybe you simply look somewhat female but also male to these people and they make these misinterpretations.

This question is not simply people thinking you are a man dressed in female clothing.  This is about when you know that they are making these types of mistaken inferences about your sexuality and they think you are male.

Chrissy
We'll see now that brings up and odd question or more of a philosophical question if myself for example I am a male to female transgender so I will be becoming a woman now as a woman if I like men and my straight because technically my body was a guy before or does that make me gay and if I like women does that make me a lesbian or does it make me straight? Of course I myself am pansexual I don't really judge by gender I judge by the person's attitude I don't even care what they look like I care how the person acts how nice they are

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Lynne

I was always a bit too feminine to be a "normal" boy/man so when somebody realized I'm male their mind jumped to the easiest conclusion that I must be gay. When that started happening to me in the last years of primary school people around here didn't really know anything about trans people, everybody who wasn't "normal" was gay and that was it.
And I realized around that time that I like boys too and I had a friend who was teased with being gay too because we spent a lot of time together. We were a little more than friends but because I'm not a man, technically that wasn't a gay relationship.
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randim

I don't know about other people, but I went through a stage of wondering that when I was younger.  A few trysts with men disabused me of that notion.  Or at least the notion that my transness had to do with an inability to accept being gay, which was kind of a popular theory then in the gay community.  More recently, I have gone out in public a lot in a low-femme mode without doing much in the way of hair or makeup, so from the neck up I am quickly and unmistakably male.  I have probably been pegged as flamingly gay by some, especially those that are less sensitive to trans issues. When I'm dressed conventionally, I don't think I come across as especially effeminate, though certainly not macho either.
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IAmM

Yes. As a child my family tormented me with sissy, and would call me my name now which is not the name my parents gave me. There were times meeting new people that they thought that I was a girl, that they were calling me my name and that Sissy was my nickname. I don't mind being called my current name, good thing too my family has almost exclusively called me that since childhood, I hated being called a sissy though. They were so nasty about it. I was really good at sports and was always chosen first, I got the sissy. You gotta keep it then. was pretty much how every game began for me. Teen years until around 17 was worse at times, but I eventually learned how to blend in. No more worries after that until my late thirties and I slowly gave up on hiding it. Dude, you are such a girl. If I wanted to talk to my wife I would call her. The only close guy friend that I had at work started giving me signals when I got too feminine. Even he eventually stopped talking to me unless we were in a group so no one thought he was gay.

Know what is kinda sad and a little sickening? Half of the guys that I would hang out with at work groped me or asked for a bj before I came out and they had a company wide meeting/class that I was asked not to be at. For more than two years before I came out it was miserable to work there. Walk into a room, F** is here guys, cover up your junk. Just messing with you, we don't care if you are queer, come in and have a seat. Always the name calling but grudging acceptance, just like when I was a kid. They even had the gall to be furious when I came into work with most of my face bruised, broken and stitched. For over a week they talked about hunting the guys down who did it and beating them up. I swear, as bad as I felt it felt worse the way they treated me. Like their mascot gay guy that they had to protect. At least I had already came out and the name calling and groping had stopped, it was more, People like you have to be careful around here. Let us know if anyone is giving you trouble. All the while they pulled away until no one would talk to me at all. Eventually most of them ignored me if I spoke to them, people I had known for more than 15 years, been to their weddings, cookouts, birthdays.

I think it is probably normal for people to assume we are unless we are obviously transitioning and even then many see us as an even more messed up homosexual.
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KathyLauren

I was sexually assaulted in high school.  Clearly the guy thought I was gay.  I had no idea at the time why he would think that.  In hindsight, obviously his "gaydar" detected me as something other than a straight male.  He assumed gay male.  Gay female would have been the right answer.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Sonja

yes - since I was 8/9 years old.  People couldn't quite figure it out - hey neither could I....

A steady stream of advances from guys since I was a teen, it still happens now and then and when I politely turn them down some times I get a look like they think I'm in denial. Luckily I've found myself now and can give them a reason that makes sense.

Sonja.
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Lacy

People who dont I'm trans normally assume I'm bi.
I have talked to my therapist about this and she suggested that they are picking up my femininity,  but don't know how to "label" it. I have presented overly masculine for years, so no one ever thinks Trans.

Hugs,
Lacy

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sarahc

Ha! Yes...my entirely family definitely considered that I might be gay. Although I didn't act very gay at all, family members still wondered a lot about it because I never got married, I lived in San Francisco for a while and I didn't show a lot interest having relationships with women after my 20s. A few family members even directly asked me if I was gay, and I said no.

In fact, I wasn't gay. I've never been interested in a man-man relationship. And I never got married because I lost interest because I knew I was trans and I knew getting married would eventually create complications.
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Known that I am trans since...forever.
First therapy session / decided to transition / hair removal: October 2018
HRT: January 2019 (journal https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,244009.0.html)
Hope to go full-time: July / August 2019
FFS / SRS: 2020
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GingerVicki

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Allison S

Well, I'm not sure. I think when people perceived me as a straight male, or at least projected their heteronormative ideals on me, I felt the most uncomfortable.
In retrospect, I think it was because I was attractive as a male, so people did not want to offend me. But subconciously I'm pretty sure they knew I'm queer in some way

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MollyPants

Throughout most of my early and teenage years people assumed I was gay as a matter of course because of the blatant lack of anything male on the inside and that being the simplest explanation. It stopped once I had managed to really really repress it and now it's right back out there.

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CarlyMcx

Before transition, yes, all the time.  I can't tell you how many times I had to fend off advances from gay men.
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Arianna Valentine

Now that I really think back there was several exes who assumed I was gay [emoji848]

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