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It took decades years to come out

Started by Zoey421, December 19, 2018, 10:41:33 AM

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Zoey421

Hi, I'm Zoey and recently came out MtF. Like many of the stories I have read, there has always been part of me that knew I was a little different and more feminine than other men, it just took a long time to accept this.

My memories are full of signs - playing with the girls when I was under 10 years; dressing in my mom's panties, pantyhose, and bras when I was a teenager; preferring to be with and around women; attraction to more feminine clothes; fantasizing about being a woman; and some destructive behaviours as well, particularly a porn addiction that started with heterosexual images, to just women, to transgender (interestingly enough, since coming out the need to consume porn has disappeared!). I also never really understood men and the macho world we (they) have to live in.

I have managed general anxiety most of my life, seeking psychoanalytic treatment, CBT, using medications, and critical self-reflection through examining eastern religions, specifically Buddhism. One of my therapists diagnosed me with dysphoria and, at the time, I didn't clearly understand what he was saying. I left this therapist because I didn't think the treatment was really working (I told him I felt better), told my father, who is a psychiatrist trained as a psychoanalyst and he commented that the doctor probably told me I was struggling with being a "little girl".

Coming out has been a relief and I think my gender dysphoria was a strong contributor to my mental health issues. I have been asked often "why now" (I'm in my 50s). I lost my executive job in April 2018 and while this was difficult, I was angry, I also recognize that I was holding immense stress with this position. Losing my job allowed me time to decompress and allow the buried feelings to surface, allowing me the opportunity to understand who I am privately and professionally. I began to see signs around me that told me it is okay to accept being more feminine, to identify as a woman. I was more aware of stories about TG people, watching Lisa Ling's (CNN) documentary on gender fluidity, connecting with Freedy Mercury's story, a story about accepting who you are, in his case a gay man, from the film Bohemian Rhapsody. I was learning it is okay to accept who you are, in fact, it is so important to a positive life

I came out first to a friend of mine who works in the LGBTQ+ community. I knew he would understand my story and would provide a safe place to share my experience and feelings. I told my father who confirmed he saw this in me my entire life. I told my wife who told me she already knew for decades, well she thought I was gay, and was happy for me that I was accepting this part of me. I told my brother who doesn't understand what I am experience but loves me and will support me. I have told many some friends and colleagues who were supportive and happy for me.

I have loved shopping for new clothes and realized the selection of women's clothes is endless and why it takes so long to choose anything. I also don't understand why men are stuck with black, blue, grey, tan, and green as their only colour choice ... poor men!

I feel proper being tucked and having a flat groin area, its natural.

But, there are downsides to my acceptance. I haven't told my daughter who is 15 and my 20-year-old son. I am afraid how they will react. My marriage has been rocky for probably a decade and coming out was a way for my wife to accelerate our separation and eventual divorce. I have hurt my wife and realize now she is going through a difficult process as well. She told me she didn't agree to live with a "woman" even though she is genuinely happy for me and being good friends, co-parents to our children was not enough for her; she needs something I can't provide her.

I'm okay with all of this and I'm scared for the future. I realize both us will be released from our stressful marriage and each of us will be able to flourish in our own ways. What is most important to both of us is ensuring our children can work through this all of this change, supporting them, answering their questions, and providing opportunities to seek support. Our combined duty is to protect them.

I have also started seeing a gender therapist. I don't know where my acceptance will take me. HRT? GRS? What I do know is I want to be free to express me as me, as a woman in my own way. This is a process, a process of understanding that requires small steps and focusing on today and tomorrow, not weeks, months, or years ahead. I expect to experience discrimination and harassment for the first time in my life. I know some people won't accept my decision or just won't understand. I can't control what people think and I can only control my own behaviours and actions.

Dressing up in a feminine and tasteful outfit for a Xmas party with a non-profit board on which I serve was a wonderful experience. I told my colleagues I came out MtF. They told me I am more approachable and seem at ease with myself; I have found new friends that were always around me but now they clearly see me and I clearly see them.

My story is not unusual.

My story is about self-acceptance and living a life as my true self.

I am looking forward to this new phase in my life, to the highs and lows that I will experience.

Thank you for reading my story.  I am grateful for a community like Susan's Place to share experiences, for a safe place to be me.

Zoey



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Dear Zoey:
Thank you for following the LINK that and I provided for you in our Welcome Messages to you on another thread that  you first posted on... and then coming to the Introductions Forum to let many other members know of your arrival to the site.
You very informative and interesting post here will permit other like-minded members be able to share their thoughts with you as you share your thoughts with them.

It is just about a certainty that you will make some new friends here in the process of being involved in the Forums.
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V M

Hi Zoey  :icon_wave:

Welcome to Susan's Place  :)  Glad to have you here, join on in the fun

Hugs

V M
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KimOct

Hi Zoey and welcome - your story is very similar to mine in many ways.  Congratulations on accepting yourself and finding the courage do live authentically.  I did the same in 2016.  You are in the right place.
The first transphobe you have to conquer is yourself
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dee82

Quote from: Zoey421 on December 19, 2018, 10:41:33 AM
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Dressing up in a feminine and tasteful outfit for a Xmas party with a non-profit board on which I serve was a wonderful experience. I told my colleagues I came out MtF. They told me I am more approachable and seem at ease with myself; I have found new friends that were always around me but now they clearly see me and I clearly see them.

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Hi Zoey!

The finding new friends is great! The children/spouse challenges not so great, but you have to do what's best for yourself. Good luck with it all, (well, it's not luck, you sound like you have clear purpose and will find a way forward) and you can keep us informed of your story, and get support here.

Welcome.

~Dee.
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Linde

Welcome here, we all have a similar path behind us, and in my case, my path is still going further into the future.

I wish you lots of luck in sorting out your family situation.
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Zoey421

I am so grateful for the new community of friends and look forward to meeting more, here at Susan's Place and in person. This is a new and wonderful world. Thank you for your support  :-* Zoey
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Kelly Peters

Congratulations!  You are an inspiration. I am terrified of my family... they are so bad and would not understand .  But I am who I am, and am glad they are moving.

Kelly
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Linde

Quote from: Kelly Peters on December 20, 2018, 07:51:52 AM
Congratulations!  You are an inspiration. I am terrified of my family... they are so bad and would not understand .  But I am who I am, and am glad they are moving.

Kelly
I thought this of several people prior to coming out.  And I was so surprised, because those of who I thought would be the least understanding, are in reality my biggest supporters!

Being out to the world is a very liberating feeling.  You do not need to hide your real you anymore!
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DawnOday

Once again I can't ignore the similarities between story's, especially for us beyond our thirties.  My wife didn't marry a woman either. Nor did she marry a man who could no longer have sex at the age of forty-two due to the use of Spiro for congestive heart failure. No I can't use Viagra.  Luckily my wife has decided to live with it and we compromise. It's not so bad. I would truly love to live full time, but I also have my vows that dictate our situation. I already lost one wife forty some years ago. I worried greatly about my children that are somewhat older than yours are but I was still pleasantly surprised by their reaction and they basically said. You will always be our Dad, but you need to do what you feel is best for you.  I so hope your children are willing to explorer the reasons for your wanting to transition. I think I have presented enough information to the family for them to make an informed decision.
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Siouxie

Quote from: Zoey421 on December 19, 2018, 10:41:33 AM
But, there are downsides to my acceptance. I haven't told my daughter who is 15 and my 20-year-old son. I am afraid how they will react. My marriage has been rocky for probably a decade and coming out was a way for my wife to accelerate our separation and eventual divorce. I have hurt my wife and realize now she is going through a difficult process as well. She told me she didn't agree to live with a "woman" even though she is genuinely happy for me and being good friends, co-parents to our children was not enough for her; she needs something I can't provide her.

Hi Zoey,
wow life appear so difficult with worties and what ifs! I too have children, 2 girls (adults actually). I'm soooo lucky in so much as my Wife accepts, loves, and thinks "nothing of" (not in a flipant way) me coming out as a woman. I havent told my beautiful girls yet, but I have no fear. I'm genuine, I'm me, I'm still the same "person" (in a beautiful blouse now rather than a ....shirt).
But life is short. Be honest. Be true. Enjoy, be you, be true.
Sx
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Zoey421

Quote from: DawnOday on December 20, 2018, 01:05:55 PM
Once again I can't ignore the similarities between story's, especially for us beyond our thirties.  My wife didn't marry a woman either. Nor did she marry a man who could no longer have sex at the age of forty-two due to the use of Spiro for congestive heart failure. No I can't use Viagra.  Luckily my wife has decided to live with it and we compromise. It's not so bad. I would truly love to live full time, but I also have my vows that dictate our situation. I already lost one wife forty some years ago. I worried greatly about my children that are somewhat older than yours are but I was still pleasantly surprised by their reaction and they basically said. You will always be our Dad, but you need to do what you feel is best for you.  I so hope your children are willing to explorer the reasons for your wanting to transition. I think I have presented enough information to the family for them to make an informed decision.

Hi Dawn, I am finding more people in our age group who are transitioning through forums like Susan's Place. I think we have a different experience than someone younger, starting out their adult lives. That is not say that transitioning in either case is easy - it isn't! It's great to hear from people over 40 and 50 who are going through the same experience and can provide advice and support. Hugs Zoey
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Zoey421

Quote from: Siouxie on December 20, 2018, 01:42:51 PM
Hi Zoey,
wow life appear so difficult with worties and what ifs! I too have children, 2 girls (adults actually). I'm soooo lucky in so much as my Wife accepts, loves, and thinks "nothing of" (not in a flipant way) me coming out as a woman. I havent told my beautiful girls yet, but I have no fear. I'm genuine, I'm me, I'm still the same "person" (in a beautiful blouse now rather than a ....shirt).
But life is short. Be honest. Be true. Enjoy, be you, be true.
Sx

Hi Siouxie, I'm so glad to hear your wife is supportive. I know my wife is supportive of my decision and happy for me, she just can't reconcile being married to a transgender person. It's a difficult process for her as well. You are so right ... life is short; be honest; be true!  Hugs Zoey
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Siouxie

Hi Zoey,
There really is nothing one can do about how others react. One can try to explain, adjust, pretend, comply...but if it hurts, if its hard to sing and smile, it's time to change and live a truthful fulfilling life. I hope you find a way to happiness. I hope your wife finds the same. For me, honesty is my path. Truth, one moment at a time, no fearing the future.
Sx
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Susan R

Hi Zoey, what an incredibly well written life story. Your story, like mine, like others, has all the milestones you find in similar TG journeys.  I'm also in my 50's and wish I could have come to the same revelation as you did much earlier in life.  It didn't happen that way for either of us so we just have to pick up and march on.  At least we're both on the right path now.  Fighting it is fruitless as it is a deep part of us.  I don't have much else to say but want to thank you for sharing this with us here.  I look forward to reading more about your trials and tribulations and seeing where your journey leads you.

Susan R🌷
Began HRT - Sept. 25, 2018
Out to all/Full time - May 19, 2019
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Zoey421

Quote from: Susan R on December 21, 2018, 12:48:36 AM
Hi Zoey, what an incredibly well written life story. Your story, like mine, like others, has all the milestones you find in similar TG journeys.  I'm also in my 50's and wish I could have come to the same revelation as you did much earlier in life.  It didn't happen that way for either of us so we just have to pick up and march on.  At least we're both on the right path now.  Fighting it is fruitless as it is a deep part of us.  I don't have much else to say but want to thank you for sharing this with us here.  I look forward to reading more about your trials and tribulations and seeing where your journey leads you.

Susan R🌷

Hi Susan. Thank you for the support and comments. What I like about Susan's Place is the opportunity to meet people like you and me who have come out and accepted themselves during the second half of their lives. When we were younger, talk of transgender people was "verboten", TG people lived in the shadows of society, they were engaging in a perversion. This only contributed to the dysphoric feelings we felt, contributed to the shame associated with our feelings.

The support from everyone here is awesome and helpful. I'm still getting used to writing regularly and sharing my daily experiences. This forum does help work through the process of becoming more female while still having to present male most of the time. For example, I tuck almost every day now and this allows me to feel female, to look female. Now sitting on hard surfaces is not the most comfortable feeling!! The draw to presenting female is so strong.

My life is very interesting right now ... coming out TG, pending divorce, moving to a new home. I keep telling myself to take small steps one at a time. I changed my gender status from male to questioning today. No point hiding from the truth.

Thanks again, Susan, for your support.

Hugs Zoey
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GordonG

Zoey

Welcome to Susan's!

We share a lot of the same history growing up. Especially about the clothing. I too thought that men should be able to wear more kinds of clothing. Women shouldn't be the only ones to have sartorial fun. Several years ago I started to wear skirts as a man. There is a forum for men who wear skirts. The first time was hard and scary. but I noticed that the world didn't stop turning, and there were no black helicopters flying overhead, so I continued. I had been shaving my legs for quite a while before hand. Then I started to wear pantyhose with it. Mostly black to hide blemishes and scars. Then I started to add womens tops, not flashy, just subtle designs. And sometimes womens ankle boots with a 2" heel. I still do that today. But now I'm on E and Spiro, and have painted fingernails, and three hoop earrings in each each. But nobody would have any doubt that I'm a man when they see me.

I don't care what others think of me. I have to be who I am.

All the best for your journey.
I'm a gender confused guy who lives an hour north of Seattle.
I believe that I was influenced by DES. I have crossdressed in public a handful of times, see avatar picture (enhanced with FaceApp).
I don't plan on transitioning, no GRS, FFS, nor BA.
I consider myself TransFeminine. But reserve the right to change my mind at any time.  ;D

Spironolactone; 7-16-2018
E sublinguals; 10-5-2018
Orchi; 2-15-19
No more Spiro. 

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Linde

Gordon, if that avatar picture is you, I don't know how much more you plan o look like a girl!
I see a really pretty girl there!
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