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Started by KimOct, February 16, 2019, 09:30:44 PM
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Quote from: KimOct on February 19, 2019, 08:55:24 PMMoni - I know that you know that goof is a term of endearment. Glad I could flatter you As far as bat piss to each their own I agree with you completely and aspire to your life goals. Also I have noticed the change in my demeanor since transition. I am fiercely dedicated about trans rights and acceptance but I really enjoy just having pleasant conversation with other women. On the whole they are so much more comfortable with us than guys are.
Quote from: HappyMoni on February 20, 2019, 08:27:20 AMKim, of course you called me a goof as a term of endearment. Once I get to know you better, I'll have a few choice words for you too. [emoji14] I would modify your last sentence slightly to reflect my experience. I think guys take more time to get comfortable with us. Women I work with, mostly, were easily accepting. The guys are more cautious. My theory is that when one is first out, guys are unsure because they are protecting their status. Heck, there isn't a big track record for being around newly out trans folk. Maybe they fear being thought of as less than masculine or gay for being too comfortable with us. After a while they can come around. I stopped in a hallway recently, reading something. A guy I worked with yelled up the hallway, "Hey little girl, are you lost?" Besides making my day, that kind of acceptance and public display wouldn't have happened a year or two ago. In a sense, it is more valuable to me because it was harder to get. Your friend Scott might have a bit of insecurity himself. Telling crap stories like he did might be his way to shore up his masculine 'cred.' Thinking back, when I was younger I was so fearful of being found out, I made those nasty "cred' acquiring comments? Still, that kind of stuff hurts, right?So, Complete, I do have a question for you. Is that you in the boat?
QuoteSo, Complete, I do have a question for you. Is that you in the boat?
Quote from: KimOct on February 20, 2019, 09:28:07 PMSo back to the topic, I have been taking it easy the last few days before I go back into a tough work schedule. Since I completed my job search (hopefully - offer is pending ) I am just laying around for a few days watching too much TV and typing on here During that TV watching I have been watching a lot of sitcoms (escapism) and just since posting this thread I have seen recent or current TV shows making fun of us. This is not paranoia on my part. Example a 'The Office' episode from 2012 the character Dwight was slamming a new character and as a dig said that he dated a transvestite. I love 'The Office'.I saw several examples while binge watching Big Bang on DVR. I mean very recent episodes - not 12 years ago. I love that show too.The point I am making is that society's view of us over the years has been shaped to think we are a joke. People are almost always nice and if a direct example comes up most support us but it is still funny to see men portrayed as women. That is why we have internalized transphobia and are ashamed. We have been taught that we are a joke.No wonder it takes so much courage to come out.
Quote from: KimOct on February 21, 2019, 02:33:02 AMIt has only been a few years since I transitioned. The fear I felt those first few months is still fresh in my memory. That is why I am on this forum, for those that are at that point now.It doesn't matter if we had surgery 30 years ago and have been living this life for years, didn't have surgery at all or if it is our first day out in public. Everyone should be treated with respect regardless of who they are, how they look or how they identify. The only judgment should be about our actions and how we treat the rest of society.
Quote from: Complete on February 21, 2019, 12:55:54 AMWhat really hurts, (and IMHO is even worse), is that the greatest, (and in their mind the most intentionally hurtful) insult hurled at long time post-op and fully assimilated women by some trans-women, is that they, (we), "are just like them, except that they, (we), have an inverted penis".
Quote from: Dietlind on February 21, 2019, 08:36:53 PMThat's a new one! I have not heard this one yet. Why don't they just go ahead and quickly invert their penis?
Quote from: KimOct on February 21, 2019, 08:20:46 PMCorrection his name is Jussie Smollett and if what is currently being reported is true it is terrible. Creating a false attack whether it be to enhance his career or even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and consider that it was to make a statement either of those is inexcusable. There are enough examples of real hate crimes and faking one is never OK. In fact it harms those that have legitimate claims.There is a wide gap between victim-hood and being discriminated against, marginalized or oppressed. Is victim-hood a real thing? I would say yes it is. Some people are always looking to claim that they have been victimized in some way. Are discrimination, marginalization and oppression real things also. YES !!A reasonable person can see that all of the above exist.
Quote from: Complete on February 21, 2019, 08:42:29 PMPenis inversion is one of the original techniques used to create a neo-vaginal canal. Many trans-women find this very painful, expensive and questionably effective technique un-necessary for their own needs. Hence my objection to the assertion that, "we are all the same".
Quote from: Complete on February 21, 2019, 08:53:19 PMI am not sure where you get your reporting, but the last l heard, Smollet was free on $100,0000 bail, pending his arraignment on a Class IV felony of making a false police report and staging a hate crime in order to further his hateful narrative that Trump supporters are racist homo-phobes.I agree that this is wrong and hope he is fairly tried and held accountable. My point, in case l was unclear is that this ingrained need for victimhood, has a tendency to impair clear thinking and impair the ability and desire to profit from one's own efforts and hard work, rather than seeking the seemingly easy rewards of self induced victimhood.