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Randi's transition (in)decision

Started by randim, September 20, 2018, 04:06:03 PM

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Maid Marion

What a coincidence.  My doctor of 30 years is retiring so I'm also likely to switch to a female doctor who does LGBTQ.

Good luck with the time alone.  It may help you decide what  you want.
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Rae321

"I don't know where I'm going to end up, but  I don't think I'm in Kansas anymore."

God do I relate to that sentiment.  For a 40 year old, purely pretransition, gurl just dressing around the house and at the therapists office your tale is regaling, terrifying, heartbreaking, and inspirational.  My spouse hasn't turned on me yet (we haven't actually discussed HRT or any real changes, just coming out) and I hope he doesn't in the future but if you can overcome the kind of intractable resistance that you have been facing (even in incremental steps) then surely I can find the courage to keep putting one foot in front of the other on this yellow brick road.

It's very painful to hear the things she has said to you.  I have felt myself crippled by the fear that I will hear the same kind of things from my husband.  That said it is very encouraging to hear her changing, even if it is slow.  It must be very painful to work through that, and I find your incremental approach very instructional.  It sounds like even with the damage and pain you love her very much and are being very attentive to her needs.  I hope she continues coming around more and eventually sees your love and patience rather than the mask of betrayal hurt and hurt that it sounds like she has been seeing in the past, and remembers that she is here for your needs as well.

As someone with no experience, only confusion and fear I of course can't offer you any tangible advice like the other ladiez on here can but I can say that I'm rooting for you, and even though only you can do you and know what is right for you I really hope that you find the peace that we all seem to be seeking here.  And while our faces may scream "MAN" at this stage of our development I've seen lots of faces come a long way over time so don't count yourself out.  Beauty is not really in the eye of the beholder or the face of the beholden, it's actually in the heart of both.  You look beautiful to me already, and you can only become more so as you become more of yourself!! So stay strong, take of yourself, and be true to your heart.  <3<3<3
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randim

@Marion

Good luck switching doctors.  I find this practice quite interesting. Having to decide on pronouns?  Modern times.... I'm sure I will enjoy my time to myself.  I always imagine doing a lot more than I end up doing, but I always seem to end up going out en femme to some extent, and it is always illuminating.  Realizing that the sky doesn't fall, and it's a matter of what feels right to me is a pretty liberating feeling.  But it can be daunting.

@Rae

Thanks so much.  You are kind and sweet. I hope things work out for you in your relationship  It sounds like your spouse really cares for you.  That is a good start.  We'll see how the incremental approach works out for me.  My therapist has advised that I might have to rip the band-aid off eventually.  I am loath to do that because I am not sure what the outcome would be.  Not overly brave to keep kicking the can down the road, but it feels like the right thing for now.  I don't know if I'm reshaping my world little by little, or simply delaying a difficult choice.  One day at a time. 

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Jessica_Rose

Quote from: randim on March 26, 2019, 04:54:10 PM
I seem to be becoming ever more demanding of my appearance the more things seem real/normal -- I really am unhappy with my beard shadow and hair.  I am getting a lot fussier about the way clothes fit and a lot more self-critical about makeup and bad/inappropriate clothing choices.  And flipping through my journal.  Whoa.  Let's just say somebody's banging on the door pretty hard wanting out.  I don't know where I'm going to end up, but  I don't think I'm in Kansas anymore.

There were several times when I reached a point where I was comfortable, but that usually only lasted for a few months. It can be a slippery slope, the further we go the more we want. When I started this journey I wasn't 100% sure where I would end up, but I am now in a much happier place than where I started. Only you know what will make you happy. I wish you the best of luck.

Love always -- Jessica Rose
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randim

#44
The best of times, the worst of times....

It has been an eventful day.  I had an appointment with a doctor for a physical and to discuss HRT.  It's a very LGBT-friendly practice, and it's hard to imagine it going better.  Wonderful, warm people.  Used my feminine name, which they asked for on the intake form. Seemed like a very good, supportive doctor.  Gave me an informed consent form and scheduled me for a 30-day follow-on.  Strongly leaning towards starting it.  I felt like crying leaving the office, that this brave new world could have such people in it, and the thought that the world could be different.

Then I get home, ad find my wife has stumbled across my journal.  Said she was looking for envelopes in my study.  Let's just say there is stuff in there not intended for anyone else's consumption.  It freaked her out how dysphoric I am.  She also read some venting I had done about some things that hurt her deeply.  And I hate, hate, hate that.  It was intended to be a strictly private internal conservation put to paper.  I really feel extremely unlucky.  Though it did move the conservation forward about being trans.  She deeply regrets that I suffer, she is willing to let me experiment more, she understands a bit better that it is more than cross-dressing. But still... she sees no need for me to pierce my ears, she thinks a wig should suffice, she couldn't see herself going out in public with me, she thinks I would be extremely ugly as a woman.  Sadly, hard to argue with that.  I don't know.  I just wish that hadn't happened.

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randim

Brief update:  I have now slept with Kristin in a nightgown, and she was ok with it.  I don't know why that should be significant, but it seems that way.  Maybe because it is not at all an androgynous look.  It does feel like progress. 
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Faith

ouch, about the journal. I started writing one, sadly a bit behind now already. Most of what I write my wife knows and has heard. Still, it's written for me and no one else. I leave it lying around, she doesn't read it. How do I know? I trust her.

any progress is significant. The more you are seen, even in little bits, the more accustomed. My most accepting sibling is the one that has seen me the most. He struggled until we spent more time together.
I left the door open, only a few came through. such is my life.
Bluesky:@faithnd.bsky.social

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randim

Sisters, brothers, and bisters/srothers in-between, not much to update, but really feeling the need to dump some stuff out of my head, especially since journaling feels like a bad idea right now.  I hope it doesn't always feel that way.  The dust-up from her reading my journal has died down a bit, but it will leave some scars, I'm afraid.  Our anniversary looms on the 21st.  Could be some awkwardness there.  We'll see.  But Kristin is making an effort to be supportive, though it's clear she harbors deep anti-trans prejudices.  She has offered to share some of her clothes, and I really need to figure out the best way to take her up on that.  I think that could be a bonding experience.  Unfortunately, her tastes are somewhat different and our body sizes/types are quite different.  I did dabble a bit in under-dressing at home last weekend, wearing shorts and tees and a nightgown to bed one night.  I keep hoping I will hit a sweet, androgynous spot that satisfies me and doesn't freak Kristin out.  Unfortunately, dipping my toes in the water just  seems to make me want to jump in the pool.  For instance, the shorts I was wearing were actually pretty generous in terms of pocket space, but still, keys, a wallet and a cell phone had them stuffed to overflowing.  I kept thinking how nice a purse would be.  Which is funny, considering how mightily I struggled with carrying a purse in public when I first started doing it.  But I was finding myself missing the weight of it and the feel of it hitting my hip.  Maybe at this stage a murse might be a decent compromise, and that would solve some problems with jeans and shorts.   

My blood work came back ok from the doctor.  No medical issues. Total testosterone and hormone binding globulin in normal limits.  The informed consent form waits to filled out.  Could be starting HRT at the end of the month.  *gulp*  That feels really significant somehow.    Even when I started cross-dressing again and going into therapy, I never really thought I would transition.  I kept telling myself I would find some middle ground, that I would end up some non-gender-conforming person.  And I still may.  But, but, I feel ever drawn towards the female end of the binary.  Sometimes I have these fantasies of having a small apartment with flowers and plants arranged just the way I want it,  a lingerie drawer with a sachet, a nice jewelry box, closets populated solely with female clothes and shoes.  Just a little old lady living the senior years of her life. Feels nice.  Of course, the downside to the reality of that would probably be being alone in that apartment the vast majority of the time.  Could I actually live such a life in the house I live in now, with the spouse I live with now, with the social circle I have now? I just don't know.  That would be a heavy lift for Kristin.  Though to be fair, a heavy lift for me as well.  Moving from fantasy to reality is such a massive leap.  But I seem to be on some sort of subconscious autopilot that just.... keeps.... going down the road.  Last session my therapist said "you're in it now."  I just hope I'm not stepping in it now.
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F_P_M

ahh the ol "compromise" thing. I do that ALL THE TIME. "maybe I don't have to fully transition, maybe I can just be non binary! Maybe I can just cross dress and it'll be good enough" but ultimately, deep down, you know it's not actually true, it's just damage mitigation.
Or an attempt at it.

I'm so sad to hear your wife is being so well, unsupportive. It's heartbreaking really.

You can do this okay?

I mean i'm guilty of talking myself out of it constantly as well. That fear of imploding the life you've built is huge and intimidating but ultimately we do have to be our true selves right? Living a shadow life does nobody any favours, either yourself or the people you interact with.

I'm sort of the polar opposite of you in the sense that i'm naturally inclined toward the masculine side of the spectrum but still unsure if I want to jump fully into that pool. There are a few things i'd miss about being female, like being able to smile at and talk to children without being glared at. (isn't that a depressing glimpse into the modern world?)
and yeah, i'm missing a bag. I mean I hated wearing a handbag because it hurt my shoulder and was stupidly designed with no compartments so I lost everything but maaaan, pockets aren't deep enough and today while cycling my phone fell out my pocket and smashed on the pavement and i'm like "DAMNIT Men's pants why!???"

I carry too much stuff with me. I mean a wallet, phone and keys takes up a lot of space. How the heck do guys manage that? If I also need my painkillers as well as the tissues and small distract my children toys I like to keep on me where do I put em?
I miss having a bag. I gotta find a masculine bag to carry.

But yeah, the constant yoyo "I really want/need this omg now now now" one day and then the next "do I? Oh no, crushing DOUBT!"
It sucks.

I hope things improve for you on the marital front, or at least you get some closure regardless. Good luck and congratulations on potentially starting hrt! Maybe just... you know.. give it a try, see how it makes you feel.
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Faith

I keep looking for that compromise line. Every time I think that I'm getting close it moves just a little bit further out of reach

I wish you every possible luck in finding your line
I left the door open, only a few came through. such is my life.
Bluesky:@faithnd.bsky.social

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randim

@Faith

Thanks Faith.  I appreciate it.  BTW, your latest pictures look amazing.  Just sayin'

@F_P_M

Thanks so much.  That was a wonderful post.  Words that were indeed true, necessary and kind. As an aside, if you're looking for a male bag this site specializes in them: http://www.modernmanbags.com.  Might be something there that works for you.
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Faith

Quote from: randim on May 07, 2019, 01:46:25 PM
@Faith

Thanks Faith.  I appreciate it.  BTW, your latest pictures look amazing.  Just sayin'

Thank you Randi. I am still very much insecure about my looks. I just don't see what other people say that they see. Which is why I don't have a profile photo, I simply cannot look at myself that much.

I'd like to clarify my line comment.

I've set lines of compromise with my wife. Self-imposed to keep things calm. Each time I get close to that line it moves away. Forcing me to go a little further, forcing my wife to adjust that little bit more. I have not hit my line, my wife keeps stepping over hers to stay with me. I try, I really do. I fear I won't meet my line until what I need hits the monetary wall of 'can't do' .. and hopefully before she can't follow any further.

So, again, I sincerely wish you luck in finding your line.
I left the door open, only a few came through. such is my life.
Bluesky:@faithnd.bsky.social

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randim

Quote from: Faith on May 07, 2019, 02:28:51 PM
Thank you Randi. I am still very much insecure about my looks. I just don't see what other people say that they see. Which is why I don't have a profile photo, I simply cannot look at myself that much.

I'd like to clarify my line comment.

I've set lines of compromise with my wife. Self-imposed to keep things calm. Each time I get close to that line it moves away. Forcing me to go a little further, forcing my wife to adjust that little bit more. I have not hit my line, my wife keeps stepping over hers to stay with me. I try, I really do. I fear I won't meet my line until what I need hits the monetary wall of 'can't do' .. and hopefully before she can't follow any further.

So, again, I sincerely wish you luck in finding your line.

Thanks Faith.  I think I understand what you mean.  And I would guess that is not uncommon, to want more freedom to experiment more as time goes by.  I'm not super-familiar with your story, but from what I've read Lori is quite amazing.  You are blessed, as the religious folks say.

It's funny with me.  I am willing to compromise.  I'm generally still comfortable enough presenting in male mode.  I'd probably be ok with keeping up appearances if I could let my hair down (assuming I had hair long enough to put up) on my own time.  The problem is I know in my bones the things I want to do to let my hair down will alter my appearance eventually and blow a hole in male mode.  I want to try HRT (which at my age probably won't have much physical impact but it's not going to make me more masculine, that's for sure).  I'd like to pierce my ears, do something with my brows, zap my beard, body-shave, do something with my hair (though maybe a wig would be a viable option).  Do all that and I think I'd look pretty different, even trying to present as male.  I suppose I should be grateful that nail polish doesn't call to me much.  :D That is all way beyond what Kristin is willing to compromise on for now, that's for sure, though I suppose that could evolve over time.  And I understand the money remark as well.  I don't see surgeries in my future but therapy and electrolysis will be formidable expenses if I keep going this way.  Nothing about this is simple or easy, that's for sure.  Best of luck to you moving forward.  Great avatar pix by the way.
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Faith

I wanted to compromise, my head wouldn't let me. So many stages. At one point I was going to be just 'her Faith', no one else knowing. Me, Faith - secret to the world, out to her. This was not a simple 'hide the shame' compromise. She really wanted me to be just hers, yet I couldn't stop.

Blessed? I'll say I am. I have been so fortunate throughout my life and now to have the support that I have? It's incredible. For most of the past year and a half I've had crushing fear. Fear that I'd lose everything. None of that happened. That fear is slowly fading.

I love my wife to the very depths of my soul .. yet I couldn't hide myself for her.


my avatar. Thank You, it's your fault you know :D  I don't know how long I can look at it. I'll try to make it a week, see what happens
I left the door open, only a few came through. such is my life.
Bluesky:@faithnd.bsky.social

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randim

Not a lot to update, but just feel like babbling a bit...

Have an appointment with my cardiologist tomorrow to discuss blood-thinners as a prelude to HRT.  Probably a wise move given my medical history.  Having to come out to him is a bit awkward, but it is what it is.  When I initially emailed him, I asked he he had any cardiac concerns about HRT.  His response:  "No cardiac concerns."   Subtext: "Something is amiss here."  Should go fine though.  I guess my aspirin regime is soon to be a thing of the past.

Had an interesting experience at a support group meeting last night.  There was a new/old attendee coming back to the group, and she is a powerful personality.  She is an activist and talked a lot about politics and such.  As the meeting broke up she talked to me a good deal giving me much advice about my situation.  Afterwards I was helping the facilitator clean up and she offered "You know, in your conversation, she was very much the man and you were very much the woman."  I don't know why, but that is one of the nicest things I've heard in a long time.  Pretty much made my day.

Kristin is down at the coast so I've had some free time.  Went to the farmers market and grocery store underdressed.  Felt great.  Today I did wig, makeup, purse, etc., and hit a mall.  Not at all passable but looking like someone trying to effect a casual female look.  Got my share of big grins, stares, etc.. but it....felt....great.  Felt so good to just pick some clothes out and take them back to the changing rooms and try them on.  It just feels so incredibly right to rock a purse. 

It does make me realize that if it weren't for marital issues, I wouldn't be stopping, I wouldn't be passing go.  I'd be down the rabbit hole so far, so fast.  I had this fantasy today of just bagging my male clothes up and tossing them in the trash.  Didn't do it, but I have to say it had a lot of appeal.  I am so ready to be a ->-bleeped-<- granny.  Pity others do not share my enthusiasm.
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Maid Marion

Hi Randi,

That didn't take long.  You were once worried carrying a purse and now you are totally comfortable with that!
I think this comes with finally being able to express yourself!

Marion
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MarshaJoy825

Hello Randi,

   I just found your thread. I am so glad to follow your progress! I am looking forward to seeing what the future has in store for you. I can sure relate to your very first post about how your male ego was at that time resisting like a stubborn mule. I liked the comparison!    Marsha
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