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Lori,

Have you tried to find "rare earth minerals" as well as gold?
I heard these rare minerals can be worth more than gold.

Maybe they are buried deep underground.

Chrissy

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Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 26, 2025, 11:34:17 AMLori,

Have you tried to find "rare earth minerals" as well as gold?
I heard these rare minerals can be worth more than gold.

Maybe they are buried deep underground.

Chrissy



I don't know if I have the equipment to detect them. They are "rare," so they are usually present in small amounts and possibly undetectable with my metal detector.

There are places in Wyoming where they are mined. I came closest when I found two tiny nuggets of platinum in my sluice box. At first, I thought they were silver. But they were very shiny and brittle, whereas silver is a dull gray and very soft. It took some testing but I finally concluded that they were platiunun.

I went back to that spot many times but never found any more there.
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Lori,

Do you do gold panning, high-banking, and dredging for gold?

Chrissy
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Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 27, 2025, 03:25:49 PMLori,

Do you do gold panning, high-banking, and dredging for gold?

Chrissy


I do gold panning and I use a sluice box mostly. There are regulations that limit the use of high bankers and dredgers. I don't own a dredge (they are expensive!) and both use "motorized equipment". Any use of such equipment is restricted to certain areas and requires permits, and the associated fees. As long as I stick with a pick and shovel, gold pan, and sluice, the Mining Act of 1872 classifies what I do as "recreational", so many regulations do not apply to me. I am not a business, so it is considered a hobby.

The Forest Rangers cannot agree on what constitutes "motorized equipment". Some have told me that the reason for the regulation is to protect the waterways from oil or fuel spillage, and from destroying the land with excavating equipment. That is also my understanding.

However, I was using my Gold Cube as a high banker and a Ranger told me the electric motor (powered by a car battery) made it "motorized" and I could not use it near the river. So I only use it at home now.

The regulations state that I can take "concentrates" home to be processed as long as I return the "tailings" (leftovers) to where I dug them up. So I dig in the creek where you can't really tell that hole was dug (unless you know what to look for) and screen the materials to remove large rocks. These concentrates can then be brought home to process. If there is a loophole, I will find it.  ;D
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Watching Aussie gold hunters on telly and they do dig up lots of dirt to get to old waterways and quartz rocks with heavy equipment, bull dozing swathes of brush so they can metal detect. Saying that its great when they find a thumb size bit and then there were some fist size chunks!!!!! A lot is fine stuff from dry blower or wet filter and also a heap leach using cyanide in a pond to extract the gold through charcoal filters
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Quote from: davina61 on January 28, 2025, 05:22:12 AMWatching Aussie gold hunters on telly and they do dig up lots of dirt to get to old waterways and quartz rocks with heavy equipment, bull dozing swathes of brush so they can metal detect. Saying that its great when they find a thumb size bit and then there were some fist size chunks!!!!! A lot is fine stuff from dry blower or wet filter and also a heap leach using cyanide in a pond to extract the gold through charcoal filters


There seems to be a number of ways to find gold.


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Lori,

Did you watch the TV series Gold Rush or Gold Rush Alaska (the same series)?
Apparently it is or has been running for 14 years, I have not watched any of the shows.

Chrissy


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Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 28, 2025, 06:57:42 PMLori,

Did you watch the TV series Gold Rush or Gold Rush Alaska (the same series)?
Apparently it is or has been running for 14 years, I have not watched any of the shows.

Chrissy

I used to watch Gold Rush ages ago when I still watched TV. I got so frustrated watching some of the nonsensical stuff they did "for show".

Then I met Freddie Dodge in Colorado. I was always impressed with his knowledge of gold mining. He was starting a new mining operation there and I interviewed for a job to work with him. The job was much more labor-intensive than I would be able to do, so I withdrew my application. But during the interview we had a chance to talk about the TV show.

The entire program is scripted. All of the annoyances that did not make sense to me were things written into the script to appease the audience. An example is the final weigh-ins at the end of each episode. They would bring out several Mason jars full of "gold" but you could see that most of the jar contents was black sand and not gold. Any real miner knows you must clean out the black sand BEFORE you weigh it. Freddie said that the producers of the show wanted to end the episode with X-number of ounces to show the audience. So they didn't clean it.

He also told me about other shenanigans that went on behind the scenes that he was not happy about, which was one of the reasons he left the show. After that, I stopped watching the program because it isn't reality, it's a TV show with a bunch of actors.
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That's why I like Aussie gold hunters and Opel hunters as there is not much obvious made up for TV stuff and the gold is clean for the weigh ins.
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I wonder what a test tube sized vial of gold as found in streams would be worth.
I realize there are different sizes of test tubes and there are impurities too.

I wonder what two salt grain size gold specs are worth also.  Likely not much but it may be fun to find a couple of them, if a tourist at least, who was gold panning.


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Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 30, 2025, 04:56:30 AMI wonder what a test tube sized vial of gold as found in streams would be worth.
I realize there are different sizes of test tubes and there are impurities too.

I wonder what two salt grain size gold specs are worth also.  Likely not much but it may be fun to find a couple of them, if a tourist at least, who was gold panning.

Gold is valued by weight. So a buyer will not pay their best price for gold that is full of black sand. A test tube full of gold could weigh in at over an ounce. Today's gold spot price is $2,784.70 per ounce.

That is for pure gold. Placer gold that I dig out of the ground is considered 80% pure because it will contain varying amounts of other minerals like silver, copper, and platinum. Buyers like pawn shops and jewelers also want to make a profit in the transaction. Here, they pay 80% of the 80% pure price. That gets confusing, but for our math nerds out there:

I sold 10.3 grams of gold recently at a spot price of $85.68 per gram.

80% of that because it is not pure gold = $68.544 per gram x 10.3 grams = $706.00
But the pawn shop only pays 80% of that (keeping 20% as profit).
So I was paid $564.80 for the gold. Actually he rounded up to $565 so he didn't have give me change.

Two salt-grain pieces of gold would be difficult to weigh. I don't think my scale would register it. Usually, if I have just a small amount, I store it in a vial until there is enough to weigh. I have been lucky that most days when I am out I get about a half a gram or more.

I have pics in my Gold Gallery album. https://goldgallery.lori-dee.com/
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Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 30, 2025, 04:56:30 AMI wonder what a test tube sized vial of gold as found in streams would be worth.
I realize there are different sizes of test tubes and there are impurities too.

I wonder what two salt grain size gold specs are worth also.  Likely not much but it may be fun to find a couple of them, if a tourist at least, who was gold panning.


In my lifetime, the price of gold has gone insane.  On Britain's TPTV channel, I watched an early sixties documentary about gold in the Look at Life series.  The value of a gold sovereign at that time was £3.  Yesterday, the 2025 gold sovereign was advertised on TV at £549.

When I was caring for my mother, I learned of another opportunity for gold panners.  When I emptied her, ahem, waste, I noticed that grains of a black powdery substance tended to be left behind.  I deduced that it was iron from the tablets my mother had to take.  When her nurse visited, I asked her whether there was any medicine with gold in it that I could pan for.  The nurse grinned and said that patients with arthritis were sometimes given tablets containing gold.  If my mother was amused, she didn't show it.  Never mind, her bedside manner was no better than mine.

Still, some home carers may have an opportunity to turn their work into an adventure and perhaps get a small profit to boot.   


Lori Dee

I think that might be a lot of work for a tiny mount of gold, but the possibility is there. I knew a guy from New York who would clean the cracks out of the sidewalk in the Jewelry district. He would find tiny gemstones, even diamonds, and a lot of gold or silver dust. Over time, it all adds up.

For many years, I collected electronic parts from old printers, PCs, hard drives, cell phones, etc. and would strip the gold from them. It is a lot of work, but there is quite a bit there. Not enough to get rich, or even make it worthwhile (so I learned).

Most people don't know that hard drive disks are coated with an extremely thin layer of platinum. I learned about all of this while installing a security system at a local recycling plant. They had two large vats filled with acid that would dissolve the gold from all of these components.

When I came to South Dakota and began studying the mining history of the area, I learned that most abandoned gold mines still contain gold.

During World War II, many gold mines were closed by the government because they needed miners to work on mining metals to support the war effort, like copper and iron. Then many of these young miners were drafted into military service. Some never came home, others were too old or disabled to work in mines.

The price of gold was so low and the cost of mining was too high, so many mines just remained closed. Lately, with the price of gold rising, mining companies are exploring and reopening the old mines. The price of gold is high enough that the efforts can now be profitable.

I am not a hard rock miner, so I stay away from the old mines. They are too dangerous with rotting support beams and many used toxic chemicals like cyanide, mercury, or arsenic. Instead, I study geology maps and look for patterns where the biggest mines were located. That tells me where the gold veins were in the rock. I then move downstream and sample the soils to see if any of the gold has eroded out.
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Quote from: Lori Dee on January 30, 2025, 10:40:32 AMI think that might be a lot of work for a tiny mount of gold, but the possibility is there. I knew a guy from New York who would clean the cracks out of the sidewalk in the Jewelry district. He would find tiny gemstones, even diamonds, and a lot of gold or silver dust. Over time, it all adds up.

This reminds me of the movie 'Paint Your Wagon'. A western set in the middle of the 1800's. Two miners who weren't having much luck noted that whenever other miners paid for something with gold dust, a little would fall through the floor boards. They dug tunnels under every store, hotel, and saloon in town so they could 'mine' the gold dust under the buildings.

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People didn't trust banks back then either. they would stash gold and coins in the walls, under floors, and behind rocks in the fireplace. I use my metal detector to scan areas of abandoned mining camps for this reason.

Sometimes they would bury their loot in the yard near their cabin. If you stand in the cabin and look out the window, look for a landmark where something might be buried. They did this so they could see if anyone was digging in their yard and the landmark helped them remember where they buried it.
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Yes one of the Aussie lot was detecting and dug up an old baccy tin, just rubbish he said but opened it and it was full of gold nuggets!!!
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Is silver or copper also found via panning?
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Quote from: ChrissyRyan on February 08, 2025, 09:43:08 AMIs silver or copper also found via panning?


Not so much while panning. They are usually recovered by mining. They are not as heavy as gold, so panning or sluicing is not an effective way to get it. But almost all gold recovered via panning or sluicing does contain impurities (20% or more) and very often those are silver and copper.

I have found gold flakes with high amounts. When it is high in silver content, it is more silver-white than yellow. When high in copper content it looks more reddish colored.
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