Post GRS Regrets

[seldom]

I do so like that miraculous full beard.

My electro and I half-joke that hormone and surgery letters could be replaced by achieving a certain number of hours of electro - 50 hours gets you the hormone letter, 150~200 gets surgery certification.

Joking aside, without education, the public will see this story as fact, not as a rare anomaly or worse yet ruse.

Though rare, the Jerry Springer producers, fundies, and others who attempt to defend against the 'transsexual menace' will always be able to find (or manufacture) a regret case such as this that they can then use to defend their position.

Karen

Except many of us with dark hair these days get laser.  I have had as much hair removal as 100+ hours of electro with 3 1/2 hours of laser.  Seeing you have brown hair, these days any tech who does both laser and electro would have recommended laser.  Electro is being used less and less by those with dark hair, we see it as a waste of time and money. 

Back on topic.  They have regrets.  They messed up their own life.  The fact these people messed up their lives is making people like mine harder. 

Talk about transphobic too.  Ugh disgusting.  Reinforcing the worst views on transsexuality possible.  We are not mutilated men. 

[cindybc]

I don't believe that someone could sue any of the surgeons that do SRS. I believe that the routine is similar in the US as it is here Canada. It's called *a paper trail* a paper trail of documents that one fills out and signs as an agreement for counseling with a therapists and or a psychiatrists during the whole proses before and after one has done a real life test.  a Paper trail again at the clinic where you go to have the surgery. We consent by way of a goodly amount of papers with our signature on them as we are progressed along through the years.

Let's see, for instance my first diagnosis was to establish if I qualified for transitioning. This consisted of three trips to the Clark institute to evaluate if I was truly transsexual. Then there was two trips to an endocrinologist to get the hormones prescribed to me and four years full time under supervision of my shrink before I arrived at the surgery table four years ago. I believe it would be quite difficult to change ones mind and decide to sue the clinic for malpractice for the removal of this person's Mikey Mouse.

I also can't see someone going all the way through to the surgery if they are not serious on completing the journey to its completion, for keeps. It takes guts even just do transition and it takes and even bigger truck load of guts to go through with SRS. I could say it takes balls but those  are converted into what is now an inner part of you're self  at this stage of the game.

A truly trans will seek to go all the way through to the desired gender and sex. To play out what turns out to be just a sham or a scheme to sue the good surgeons? Pretty drastic step if you ask me. One would have to be awfully desperate for money, especially if you take a typical red blooded man and you take out your Colt 45 and threaten to remove his Micky Mouse, then watch this man fight to the death to keep his Micky Mouse intact and safe between his legs.

And yes about the beard wouldn't grow again after electrolysis and laser. 

Impostor I believe

Cindy

[Rachael]

as much as thier wrong. i dont think they transitioned and got grs JUST to sue the surgeon... they were mentally a bit bonkers apparnetly...

like ive said many times, not every person who claims to be one sex, is....
R

[Dennis]

I saw something somewhere that suggested that this guy was now being influenced by some anti-trans groups to speak out in the way he does. I agree with Rachael's assessment. Bonkers.

And, as far as the beard, perhaps an Australian can kick in here - is electro/laser covered by your medical system? That may be why he has a beard. If SRS was covered and electro/laser wasn't, he may not have been able to afford the latter.

Dennis

[Kate]

And this person isn't just saying it was a mistake for HIM, he's implying the entire GID and SRS thing is a sham for everyone, calling it "genital amputation," telliing the "if someone says they're Jesus, shall we crucify them?" or whatever story.

He reminds me a bit of that Jerry Leach guy. It was a mistake for HIM, so the only way to save face is to invalidate everyone else now too.

~Kate~

[lady amarant]

And this person isn't just saying it was a mistake for HIM, he's implying the entire GID and SRS thing is a sham for everyone, calling it "genital amputation," telliing the "if someone says they're Jesus, shall we crucify them?" or whatever story.

He reminds me a bit of that Jerry Leach guy. It was a mistake for HIM, so the only way to save face is to invalidate everyone else now too.

~Kate~

Yeah, I suppose by the same argument, since there have been many cases of misdiagnosis and subsequent surgery in the past, the entire practice of surgery should be scrapped. Makes perfect sense!

[cindybc]

Hi Dennis
I believe your are right. I saw this video before, it isn't all that recent. I am not certain but I think it is a couple of years or so old.

Cindy

[Rachael]

ill admit, i transitioned because i had other mental problems, and evil doctors convinced me i was a woman....
i went through the pain of my childhood and coming out, lost love, lost family, going ft. Funny how i didnt find out along that road that i was a man? maybe its because he rushed.... not because its invalid...
R

[cindybc]

Hi Rachael
Yes we should get a hero medallion along with hero cookies and a glass of milk to wash them down with and have our mama pat us on the head for being nice girls.

Well I believe that by now you realise I was just joshin but not far from the truth. Anyway I like being a little girl and if anyone else says any different I'll steel their lollipop. 

Cindy

[Kate]

It does raise some interesting points though...

If GID is a medical condition, and can be "diagnosed" by a professional, and the recommended treatment is transition...

DOES he then have a case?

Is it any different than going to a doctor with stomach pains, having a recommending appendectomy done, then finding out it was just some indigestion?

The legal liability I would think then rests with the professionals recommending him for SRS, not with the surgeon. The surgeon isn't qualified to diagnose the condition, only to treat it.

~Kate~

[pretty pauline]

Well whats the update, did that idiot of a guy win his case or what, I sure hope he lost, just looked at the video, he sure was in 1hell of a rush, he was in so much of a hurry he forgot to get laser for his beard lol!!! Its always the same, people in a rush always end up doing the wrong thing and having regrets, from the time I came out to the time I had my GRS it was 12years, in that time I thought I could go thru transition without having GRS, but in the end I had to have GRS to be a complete woman, I left it to the very last, but I'v no regrets, I can't understand where that guy is coming from.
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[cindybc]

Hi  pauline

I don't know how long the real life experience is in Australia but here in Canada and in most of the states in the US is for two years. You got two years to make up your mind if you want to keep your Micky Mouse or have it removed.  For me the real life test was for four years before I got my hands on enough cash to get the surgery. If this guy actually paid to get his surgery then he needs a brain scan to see if anybody is home in there.

Wing Walker asked me, do you have any idea how many things a good swift kick in the back side with a size 12 Kodiak boot can cure?

Cindy

[Julie Marie]

This isn't the first time I've seen or heard of someone who can't take the responsibility for their decisions.  But what I don't get is I've never heard anyone wanting to sue their therapists.  Since no respectable SRS doctor will do the surgery unless you have the two letters, isn't it really the therapist/psychiatrist who is responsible for the "misdiagnosis"?  But I'm sure these sue happy people are coming from the standpoint of who has more money and/or better malpractice insurance. 

And that woman lawyer pursuing a class action suit only bolsters the already tainted image of lawyers as sharks. 

What do you call 100 lawyers lying at the bottom of the ocean?  A good start! 

Whatever, I'd love to know how this lawsuit was settled.  Anyone know?

Julie

[tekla]

What you would tend to do in a lawsuit like that is sue everyone, and let the jury apportion the blame.  You want to sue everyone, because in the beginning, you don't know who has, as they say in the industry, the 'deep pockets.'

[NicholeW.]

Update on Alan Finch.

I was chatting with an Aussie friend the other night who is very active and in-the-know about transsexual issues all over the world and particularly in her own country. So I asked her about this man.

She said that Alan Finch has pretty much 'dropped out of sight and mind,' but that his web site "Gender-Menders" http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gendmend/Home.htm is still active, just has a decided lack of members.

She said that Monash Medical Centre had a major influx of government funding to bring things up-to-date in the standards area and that until 2006 there was a lot of running for cover and review being done by and about surgeons, endos and psychiatrists. However after 2006 everything just suddenly 'went quiet.'

No further word on any lawsuits.

They are thinking that there was perhaps an out-of-court settlement, but if so no details have been made public and there is no longer any talk about Alan Finch and his 'change-of-mind.'

This pattern has been one that often ensues when regretters make headlines, unless they have the backing of some 'religious' group who trots them out periodically to start a brush fire.

Nichole 

[Rachael]

omg LOL.... that guys website is so full of crap, it makes the british gun control network look intelectural! (bitish anti gun worry group that wants to ban toy guns, and comes out with utter referenceless crap)
He seems annoyed, but entirely wrong, and leaves out many factors in his information.
i couldnt stop laughing... its daft...
what an ->-bleeped-<-.
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[tekla]

Not to get off the subject of the ->-bleeped-<-, but does that group really oppose replica weapons, i.e., weapons that are not real - that can not shoot?  What are you going to do, club people with them? - in which case hammer control is also key. 

[lady amarant]

Not to get off the subject of the ->-bleeped-<-, but does that group really oppose replica weapons, i.e., weapons that are not real - that can not shoot?  What are you going to do, club people with them? - in which case hammer control is also key. 

   

In the short time I've spent here in the UK, I have noticed a bit of a tendency to go... overboard with things. I have, for example, repeatedly been told that my handy nail-file is a deadly weapon at the new metal detectors they have at some of the tube stations...

I will clip and file thee to death, heathen!!!

Hmmm.

[tekla]

Its becoming the epitome of "The Nanny State," and is called such on several headline sites on the net.  FARK in particular seems to love the odd articles from The Sun. 

[kalt]

It's a very scary thought, that one could be 100% positive that this is what's best, that one could know for a fact and not have any doubts, but then it just doesn't work.  It just might not work out in the head, where it matters.

Such a thought kind of causes doubts on its own...

It's got me very, very scared, actually.  But it's something I've wanted since I was a child, something I've needed.  The past few years have seen a major downfall in my desire to change gender, but it's mostly because I suppressed it and went through so much pain trying to just be a guy.  In the end though, it's always a shot in the dark:-(