Ffs recommendation

[Sweet luck]

Dear friends,
I'm still suffering from my face overview, so I closely studying ffs questions. Now the main problem is to choose the suitable clinic for propery surgery.
My situation is like this.
This month I'm planning to do hair transplantation to fill in small gaps from both sides of my temple and reduce a little the hairline. I have already appointment for this surgery in 2 weeks.
After 4-5 months from hair transplantation I plan to go for ffs. I've got consulted from many Thai and South Korea clinics, but most doctors say it is better to do ffs first before hair transplantation.
I was recommended to do at least the following scope of ffs: forehead reduction, brown bones shaving, rhinoplasty, jaw angles reduction, v-line, check bone shaving.
Could anyone suggest some professional clinic with good ffs results, that you've been satisfied?
Would you recommend Thai or SK clinics?
What do you think about doing all the ffs scope under one session? (I'm little confused because of this huge scope)
Or is it better to do in several visits for better healing?
What do you think of ffs done by the same doctor, who specifies on srs? Frankly speaking, I think ffs and srs surgeons should be different doctors as there are totally different surgeries.

Please see my picture done 1 month after HRT.
Do you think all ffs scope is necessary to fix my face feminization issues?
I would be very grateful hearing your feedbacks. Thank you in advance ☺️, yours Sweet Luck.

[Sweet luck]

Sorry, I haven't got how to upload pictures here ((

[Lori Dee]

You will need an image hosting account such as Imgur. You upload your images there then link the URL to the image here in posts or Private Messages.

Once you hit 15 posts, you can upload a profile picture without all that. But pictures in posts and messages are done via URL links.

[ChrissyRyan]

Well if I would look as good as Danielle or Lori or many other ladies here, I might try that FFS myself.  I am still saving for gender surgeries but I am not ready for that.  This all costs a lot of money. 

Chrissy

[Sweet luck]

This all costs a lot of money. 

Chrissy

Totally agree with you, but I can't wait anymore, the ffs is 1st priority for me now.

[Sweet luck]

This way is better, I suppose)

[Lori Dee]

If that is your real face, why do you think you need FFS? You are gorgeous.
I would wait and see what HRT will do. It softens the features we normally worry about. I look more like my mother than my father now. I did have surgery to correct drooping eyelids, but it was not FFS.
I wouldn't rush into it if I were you. Like Chrissy, I'm saving up for bottom surgery.

[Sweet luck]

I would wait and see what HRT will do.

Well, that's me of course, I took this picture 2 months ago and every month I take pictures to observe the HRT results.
But the problem is that I still couldn't pass😕 People don't recognize me as female outside. So I was suggested to go through the ffs. Anyway wide jaw and prominent forehead bones wouldn't disappear during HRT ((

[Lori Dee]

I think you are being over-critical. We tend to be our own worst critics. Me, seeing you for the first time, I don't see it. I think you have feminine features, like cheekbones and lips. I would kill for lips like yours! But anyway, you have to do what you are comfortable with. I am only suggesting that you get other opinions and take your time making a decision.

I think if I felt I needed to do it, I would opt to do it all at once. One surgery and get it over with. You don't want to heal then do another, then heal and do another. Every surgery has risks. I would do one and done. That is just my opinion.

[ChrissyRyan]

I think you are being over-critical. We tend to be our own worst critics. Me, seeing you for the first time, I don't see it. I think you have feminine features, like cheekbones and lips. I would kill for lips like yours! But anyway, you have to do what you are comfortable with. I am only suggesting that you get other opinions and take your time making a decision.

I think if I felt I needed to do it, I would opt to do it all at once. One surgery and get it over with. You don't want to heal then do another, then heal and do another. Every surgery has risks. I would do one and done. That is just my opinion.

If someone can tell me that I am pretty, well, then most anyone may be pretty to others.
So do not shortchange yourself.

Chrissy

[Northern Star Girl]

@Sweet luck
Dear Sweet luck:
In your photo, I think that you definitely have a lovely female featured facial appearance.

  In my opinion, you should think long and hard to determine if you really feel that you need FFS.

I always try to have a big smile and a happy facial expression....
....  for me, I find that it helps a lot with passing with a welcoming appearance.

HUGS, Danielle [Northern Star Girl] 
The Forum Administrator

This way is better, I suppose)

 

[Sarah B]

Hi Sweet Luck

How Sweet and Lucky (little pun here) you are to have a beautiful face.  I'm deadly serious on this.  So you are wondering why am I so serious in what I have said.  I can only answer that for you by asking you a couple of questions and they are, how old are you and how long have you been on HRT?

You do not have to answer these two questions and remember that you only reveal what you are comfortable with.  However, looking at your picture you are very young and I'm assuming that you have not been on HRT for very long.

These are three factors in your favour.  If I was you, I would wait a couple of years for HRT to do its work.  Remove any facial hair that is left and grow your hair longer (I love long hair).

In addition to this just wear appropriate clothing a little makeup (little is more principal), do your hair and just be yourself, and go out with confidence.  Whatever you do, do not look at the ground when you walk around.  I don't know where I got this piece of information from.  I believe I practised this for a very short while and the reason being it gives one confidence.

I like others tended to think people are looking at you.  However, that was not the case as everybody else are going about their daily lives and they will not give you a second glance if you are confident in what you are doing.

Save your money for surgery if that is what you wish to do in the future and if your face gives you any problems in the future or you desire an even more feminine face then by all means do so.  As Lori says; "I think you are being over-critical. We tend to be our own worst critics".

I'm also saving up again to have the bags under my eyes fixed, this is because of my age and years of swimming with googles.  This is just a practical surgery and not FFS.

Seriously, your face is fantastic and get other opinions and of course take your time in deciding.

Take care and all the best for the future.

Love and Hugs
Sarah B
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@LoriDee
@Sweet luck
@Northern Star Girl

[Sweet luck]

I can only answer that for you by asking you a couple of questions and they are, how old are you and how long have you been on HRT?

Dear Sarah, I'm thankful for your detailed comments and precious recommendations on my case.
It is really supporting me to quit from my depression due to my passing issues.
As for me I'm 40 years old, being on HRT only 3 months.
But I getting anxious for no visible effects.
Here you may compare my pictures taken before HRT and after 3 months.

[Sweet luck]

This picture was taken 1 month before HRT start.

[Sweet luck]

Being confident and smiling are good ways to deserve the pass. I need to learn more about females behavior and clothing as you correctly noticed. Usually I'm in unisex clothing and without any makeup outside. But I want to find a proper way to look more feminine.
I was doing electoepilations for a long time, but I still doing it twice a month. So that my facial hair would be reduced completely. And I've bought electroepilation device and passed online trainings. Now I do electroepilation myself on my legs, bikini area, brest.

[Sweet luck]

Hi, everyone! Hope you are doing well 😊
Could anyone recommend which country is more preferable for FFS? Sk or Thailand or Turkey or maybe Japan?
At least I'd like to have rhinoplasty and jaw reduction done at the end of 2024. But I want clinic to fix discounted prices for me in advance.

[Sarah B]

Hi Sweet Luck

Thank you for your reply and I really appreciate the answers you provided.  I was right in one of my guesses and not the other I will let you figure out which one where I was wrong!  You certainly do not look 40 in that picture.  If that picture of you is before HRT, then it is absolutely amazing and you will not have any problems presenting as female in public.

A couple of short little stories to give you some perspective and save you from reading my story, you can read it when you have time. First story, I was 30 years old when I changed my life around.  It took about one and half years from when I first started taking hormones to make an appreciable difference.  I did not know this until I just recently looked at a photo of me working at my drawing board at the time.

Second story, I was at university talking with a fellow student and the discussion led to how old we were.  I said I was in my early 40's and she said no way, so I showed her my driving licence, when she saw how old I was, she said to me but you looked like you was in your 30's.

I thought I had good genes from my grandmother, again it was not until recently that I realised that hormones were also responsible for me looking up to 10 years younger than I was.

So, as you have mentioned you have only been on hormones for only 3 months.  So please 'be patience young padawan'.  The changes will occur and keep taking the photos, you are in a position to be able to do so, whereas the likes of me were not able too (no smartphones then), not that I ever worried about how I looked, because I could pass straight away and I was not on hormones.

One question that has crossed my mind, given the information that you have mentioned is have you gone out in public as a female?  If not then go out, wearing appropriate female clothing of your age, a little makeup and a simple hair style.  I'm definitely sure you will pass.

Best wishes for the future

Love and Hugs
Sarah B
Official Greeter
@Sweet luck
@Northern Star Girl

[Sweet luck]

One question that has crossed my mind, given the information that you have mentioned is have you gone out in public as a female?  If not then go out, wearing appropriate female clothing of your age, a little makeup and a simple hair style.  I'm definitely sure you will pass.

Dear Sarah, I would like to express my greatest admiration regarding your amazing feedbacks and your story.
You've started hormonotherapy when I was just 5 years old kid, it is unbelievable 😳. I'm not young, but looking through your story I realized  that our selfilling and real age may differ greatly.
Indeed our era of rapidly developing technologies allows us taking pictures whatever and whenever we want and monitor on HRT's work. I can't imagine how it was difficult your time at early 90th being on HRT. I went to the 1st class of my school in 1990 in small city, I couldn't realize that after 34 years my life will change significantly...
I will definitely read out all your long story which is so impressive, exciting and thought-provoking as per my feelings.
Talking about my outside overview it is always unisex polo and jeans. I can't allow myself wearing smth more feminine in our country. I'm afraid of negative reaction from people or even more physical abuse.
But I hope one day I will realize my dreams passing as a female outside. It worth trying.

[Sarah B]

Hi Sweet Luck

You said the following in your post to me:

Dear Sarah, I would like to express my greatest admiration regarding your amazing feedbacks and your story.
You've started hormonotherapy when I was just 5 years old kid, it is unbelievable 😳. I'm not young, but looking through your story I realized  that our selfilling and real age may differ greatly.
Indeed our era of rapidly developing technologies allows us taking pictures whatever and whenever we want and monitor on HRT's work. I can't imagine how it was difficult your time at early 90th being on HRT. I went to the 1st class of my school in 1990 in small city, I couldn't realize that after 34 years my life will change significantly...

Thank you for replying to my post and special thanks for your kind words.  Our ages may differ but our stories will have similarities.  If and when you read my story, you don't have to but, you will realise that I was able to pass immediately, as Sarah on my first two holidays at Christmas time, when I first just jumped in.

Even still to this day, I do not believe what I did, I really did not consider whether I could pass or not.  Yes I was a little self conscious about interacting with the public at first, at least the first holiday and of course when I completely changed my life around.  I occasionally wondered if people could read me.  However those thought soon faded from my mind.

The main features that helped me was I had long hair and always have.  When I first started out I just waxed my face at the time, later I had electrolysis done every week and I waxed my face.  With a little makeup in the early days.

I could not of predicted what was going to happen to me when I was 30 years old as well.

I will definitely read out all your long story which is so impressive, exciting and thought-provoking as per my feelings.
Talking about my outside overview it is always unisex polo and jeans. I can't allow myself wearing smth more feminine in our country. I'm afraid of negative reaction from people or even more physical abuse.
But I hope one day I will realize my dreams passing as a female outside. It worth trying.

My story is not finished and I will update it soon.  I keep saying that, but just recently I lost part of my story that I was working on and had to start it all over again.

I can only repeat and emphasise what I have already said, your photo before HRT is stunning and if you presented yourself as the female you are, you will pass without a shadow of a doubt.  Just ensure your face is clear, makeup, hair, some nice clothes and be confident when you do.  If I had your face, I would have no hesitation in going out, straight away.

Be patient and wait for the HRT to work its miracle before going down the surgery path.  I'm not able to help you on what country or surgeons are the best and if I was to have surgery done, I would be taking my sweet time in finding out the best way to go.  There are other things that could help you along the way and one of those is looking into changing your legal name and documents and of course practicing your makeup.

Take care and I wish you all the luck in the world.

Love and Hugs
Sarah B
Official Greeter