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Body too big to ever go full time

Started by DG619, September 05, 2024, 11:38:19 PM

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Robbyv213

So my starting point, which Im going to say was beginning of Aug which is when I decided to change my workout training and nutrition around, was this

Weight-200lbs
Height- 5"8
Waist- 34in
Underbust- 44in
Bust/chest- 48in
Shoulders-52
Thigh-22.5
Forearms-12.5
Biceps-17
Calves-15.5
Neck-17.5

Now after one month these are my new measurements

Height 5"8

Weight 193.8

Waist (1 inch above bellybutton) 33.7in

Waist (where my pants normal sit) 34.5

Bust 44in

Under bust 40in

Hips (across my hip bone) 35in

Hips (around fullest part to include my butt) 38.5

Thighs/quads 22in

Calves 14.5 in

Shoulders (measured around outside of my shoulder chest and back, Not across the front shoulder to shoulder. ) 51in

Biceps 16in

Forearms 11 in

Neck 15.5 in
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Robbyv213

Just took the measurements now since this topic has made me curious. but now I will be more likely to keep track of them
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Sephirah

Quote from: Oldandcreaky on September 06, 2024, 07:08:12 PMAndrogyny isn't "hiding." If I'm in a room and Tilda Swinton enters, my eyes go to her. Same with Annie Lennox or David Bowie. Androgynous people are striking.

As far as DG619's concern, I'm 5' 11.5", androgynous, broad-shouldered, and fare well.


Yeah but to be fair, someone only has to talk to you privately for like more than fifteen minutes to get who you are, sweetie. You are the person most of us aspire to be. <3
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Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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Nadine Spirit

Yeah, I've got real issues for seeing my body for what it really is. Even though my body is much more in line with what some would prefer, I think most of us struggle to see our bodies for what they really are.

Well how about many of us struggle to see the reality of all human bodies. We all (read myself included) think we understand a bit about male vs female bodies and sometimes some of us (myself) are so bad at it, it is ridiculous! I do some speeches for local colleges and one of my favorite photos is one of several female athletes. And I ask, which one is the trans girl. And then I say, um none of them. And there are audible gasps in the audience.

I am trying harder to see the reality of my body, but also to see the realities of everybody's body.

Sephirah

Quote from: Nadine Spirit on September 06, 2024, 08:17:50 PMYeah, I've got real issues for seeing my body for what it really is. Even though my body is much more in line with what some would prefer, I think most of us struggle to see our bodies for what they really are.

Well how about many of us struggle to see the reality of all human bodies. We all (read myself included) think we understand a bit about male vs female bodies and sometimes some of us (myself) are so bad at it, it is ridiculous! I do some speeches for local colleges and one of my favorite photos is one of several female athletes. And I ask, which one is the trans girl. And then I say, um none of them. And there are audible gasps in the audience.

I am trying harder to see the reality of my body, but also to see the realities of everybody's body.

Kelly, as I have said elsewhere... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. From your pic, and how you write... girl you are very, very beautiful.

All you need to ask yourself is... are you being the best you that you can be? If that is "yes", then let everything else take care of itself, okay? Don't think of yourself, ever, as what someone would prefer. That someone has to be you.

The reality is... look at the smile in your avatar. You are gorgeous. <3
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3

BlueJaye

Just how big are you? Though I am short, I am quite muscular. 5' 5" and 211 pounds. I pass with no issues. You might be surprised how much of your frustration is from your own perception of yourself.

Lori Dee

Quote from: BlueJaye on September 06, 2024, 11:04:27 PMYou might be surprised how much of your frustration is from your own perception of yourself.

THIS.
Well said, Katie.
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Sephirah

Quote from: BlueJaye on September 06, 2024, 11:04:27 PMJust how big are you? Though I am short, I am quite muscular. 5' 5" and 211 pounds. I pass with no issues. You might be surprised how much of your frustration is from your own perception of yourself.

Katie is kind of a pocket rocket around here. ;) Listen to this girl, she is very wise. <3
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3

imallie

#28
I don't think anyone is going to blow smoke up anyone's... anything.. about how they look.

But OMG, look out a window on a city street. Have a drink at an outdoor cafe. Sit in a park. Wherever you can people watch — and just spend 30 minutes looking at the incredibly variety of women that pass. All shapes, sizes, weights, heights, hair lengths, colors, thickness, beautiful, plain, bony, thin, muscular, big boobs, no boobs, etc etc etc.

What they all share in common is that they aren't for a second doubting that they are women. Are they too looking at other women and thinking "wow, I wish I had her hair!"... "I could never pull off that dress!" Etc etc.. You bet.  And so will you do. That's part of the package deal.

But there is literally no such thing as too "anything" to be a woman. If you own it.

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Quote from: Oldandcreaky on September 06, 2024, 07:08:12 PMAndrogyny isn't "hiding." If I'm in a room and Tilda Swinton enters, my eyes go to her. Same with Annie Lennox or David Bowie. Androgynous people are striking.

As far as DG619's concern, I'm 5' 11.5", androgynous, broad-shouldered, and fare well.


On my recent vacation I took no male clothing but I did have some chinos and Ts and a hoodie that could be seen as unisex, although the sleeves are shorter on the Ts than guy's Ts.  So I was what you call perhaps dressed close to unisex, no bra, when going through TSA and interacting for a rental car at the latter part of my vacation.  I just did not want any identity issues with my legal paperwork, as I have not requested a change.

So no jewelry, barrettes, fuschia clothes were worn at those times. I do not yet want to take a "I do not care what they think" attitude, I prefer to just avoid potential issues. 

I wonder if I would be almost male fail that this would not work, but then again, if that would become the case, I would not be concerned.  Or will I, if the legal paperwork has not been modified?  I might be concerned.  I hope I reach that point though and if I do, why not change the legal paperwork?

I think too much sometimes, sigh.  By the way, the vacation was nice.

Have a nice weekend.


Chrissy

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Oldandcreaky

#31
Thanks, Sephirah! You're as kind as ChrissyRyan and she's the gold standard.

Allie, I was at an intersection yesterday and I saw a woman as short as any I've ever seen in my life. Height, of course, is a gender indicator, and her stature marked her as female, but as she crossed the street and her back presented, her shoulders were wide and bulged with muscle. So, she was a mix of gender traits, as many of us are.

Of course, as most of us age, we become more and more androgynous. This androgyny is normal as testosterone and estrogen drop and it serves older t-folk because many of us are already androgynous, so as our peer group becomes androgynous too, we fit!




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Quote from: ChrissyRyan on September 10, 2024, 02:52:18 PMThanks staff.  Looks like Devlyn started the review.

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One of the most beautiful women that I saw when I was in college was 6 foot, 7 inches tall and she was not a thin, skinny gal.
 
She wore a size 13 woman's shoe.  She was feminine in every regard.  Any of the shorter guys
that were interested in her... they would have been smart to not worry about height difference. 

She had dated a lot of my classmates and she didn't appear to be worried that most of the
guys were a half a foot or more shorter.


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Quote from: Northern Star Girl on September 10, 2024, 03:42:04 PMOne of the most beautiful women that I saw when I was in college was 6 foot, 7 inches tall and she was not a thin, skinny gal.
 
She wore a size 13 woman's shoe.  She was feminine in every regard.  Any of the shorter guys
that were interested in her... they would have been smart to not worry about height difference. 

She had dated a lot of my classmates and she didn't appear to be worried that most of the
guys were a half a foot or more shorter.


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Good for her!

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Always stay cheerful, be polite, kind, and understanding. Accepting yourself as the woman you are is very liberating.  Never underestimate the appreciation and respect of authenticity.  Help connect a person to someone that may be able to help that person.  Be brave, be strong.  A TRUE friend is a treasure.  Try a little kindness.  Inconvenience yourself to help someone.   I am a brown eyed brunette. 

Lori Dee

I worked with a gal who was 6'1" and curvy. She had broad shoulders and hips. She was active in sports, so had a fit physique. She was beautiful and we nicknamed her our "Viking Goddess". She was a very sweet person.
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Hollytime

Quote from: Maid Marion on September 06, 2024, 05:45:43 AMOwn it.  Dress feminine or masculine but not in the middle.
In the middle can be really sexy because you fall in the "uncanny valley" which sets of people's red flags.

Now that you mention it, didn't the forum at one time have an "Androgynous"sub-section?  I liked that section; I found it very appealing and I was often looking for ways to make myself a little more so androgynous, if I could.  I'm a guy but never felt right with my square frame and square head.
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