Societal backlash

[Sephirah]

Lack of understanding is a polite way of saying stooooopid.

You're probably right, Lori. Pretty sure I'm not, though. I didn't up sticks to somewhere else so I feel like I can talk about stuff in the UK. Thank you <3

[barbie]

Go check out Korean cinema and TV. It will knock your socks off. <3

I do not watch TV or movies so much, but I subscribe to Netflix, sharing my account with my kids. Once I stopped the subscription as I seldom watch it. Immediately, all my kids sent me a text asking to restore the subscription, as they watch it so frequently.

Netflix has invested a lot in S. Korea, skyrocketing the costs of movie and drama production, especially for a few famous actors and actresses. Other production companies no longer can compete with Nexflix.

Yes. Korean directors do not refrain from dealing directly with LGBTQ issues. An example is "Itaewon class" in which an MTF trangender features.
https://youtu.be/ZGRbGMTvIQ0?si=hhGFhgkRaXBvjbO8

Cheers,

barbie~~


 

[Karen_A]

Personally, yes, I have been threatened.

I am in the same state and I have only felt threaten once many years ago... I think that was in 1998 or so. I had to do some training at a contractor site on our methods and on the way home i stopped at a restaurant out in the burbs that had a bar to get dinner (was not at teh bar) so as not to have to drive home during rush hour... Some guy stated harassing me... If the bartender had not stepped in things could have gotten ugly. The only other thing that was that I got a nasty comment one from some guy as he walked past me in the same general the period... That was in Cambridge surprisingly enough... But those were te only incidents like that though I was read more often.

A trans teen was recently beaten about 10 miles up the coast.

Was that in NH or still in Mass?

The more cpu get away from the cities, the more likely there are to be issues I think, but still I think this state is pretty safe overall.

- Karen

[SoupSarah]

This is true. But it isn't a lack of understanding. You just have to look at the last UK election and the voting spread to see that far right groups, like Reform UK have gotten a much larger percentage of the vote, even if they only really have the universally hated Farrage as their mouthpiece. Yes, not everyone who hates trans is far right, but a vast majority of far right groups hate trans. And it's not wrong to call these people out. And deny them a voice in a modern democracy because it isn't just trans people they hate. They hate anyone who isn't them. Where I am in the UK, in the North, I have a lot of these people around me. They express how they feel daily. It isn't a lack of understanding at all.

Well, what would you call your use of the phrase 'far right' to describe Reform UK.. As far as I know, they are a political party in the UK that are on the right of politics. That is to say conservative with a little c.. That is a long way from pitching them into the same hayfire as the Skinheads and Nazi's of Germanys' 1930s..  By using the epiphet of 'hated' in front of their leaders name, you are pushing more hate and untruth.. for on the whole Mr Farage is not hated. I personally do not align with his political views, but I don't hate him for holding his views. So, are you uneducated and have lack of understanding as I stated people who hate are.. or are you exactly the same as the person's you are describing with your hateful words?... you hopefully see how you have duplicated exactly what I was espousing people to not do.

 I will try and give an example, and a reason why I came to this forum. You see, I knew there was something not right in my head - I felt a need to express myself differently to how society had cast me. I guess I knew I was a woman? However, the only 'men' who I knew that dressed and acted like women were either comedic actors (and they did it for laughs), Drag artists (who did it for entertainment) and crossdressers.. and I knew I was none of those?.. I had deep seated phobia's about each of those roles.. I certainly did not align with them and you could even say I was phobic about them.. Coming to Susan's allowed me to understand the differences between these people and to understand also that transwomen are not any of these groups.. in fact, are far different. I understood and realised that it was very simple to explain my thoughts. I was a woman. Simples. I also made friends with many crossdressers, drag artists and other trans people and value their friendships to this day.. I understand them and can differentiate them and their needs. You see, I educated myself and I gained understanding and lost the phobia or hate..

Spreading stereotypical lies about any group of people is wrong and will never aid understanding and acceptance. When groups post about 'trans women using bathrooms to commit crime' or some such nonsense it is the same as you posting here

"it isn't just trans people they hate. They hate anyone who isn't them."

Any sentence that separates 'Them' from "Us' has to be viewed with cynicism and scepticism. The only objective of such a statement is division and tribal mentality a rally call to bear arms against one another. For Trans people to be accepted in society we need to be a part of society and not apart from society..

[Jenn104]

I am in the same state and I have only felt threaten once many years ago... I think that was in 1998 or so. I had to do some training at a contractor site on our methods and on the way home i stopped at a restaurant out in the burbs that had a bar to get dinner (was not at teh bar) so as not to have to drive home during rush hour... Some guy stated harassing me... If the bartender had not stepped in things could have gotten ugly. The only other thing that was that I got a nasty comment one from some guy as he walked past me in the same general the period... That was in Cambridge surprisingly enough... But those were te only incidents like that though I was read more often.

Was that in NH or still in Mass?

The more cpu get away from the cities, the more likely there are to be issues I think, but still I think this state is pretty safe overall.

- Karen

The incident was in Massachusetts, Gloucester.

It all comes down to this, in my opinion-- there is no such thing as a bubble or a safe state. I am safer because of where I live. Total safety is an illusion. Channeling my inner Marsha P Johnson, 'none of us is safe until all of us is safe.'

~Jenn

[ChrissyRyan]

You do not have to be a transgender person to live in danger.

It does not help though to be transgender, we are not immune to danger.

Chrissy

[TanyaG]

There seems to be a backlash against transgender people in many areas.
I hope this is not going to be a step backwards that lasts.

I'm coming to this late and live in the UK, but social media amplification makes it hard to know where this one is going - not least because newspapers compound the situation by picking up on social media and rebroadcasting knee jerk content like it is mainstream.

There is a political dimension in Britain, with the once dominant Scottish party (SNP) suffering an electoral wipe out in part because of what started out as a well meant intention to make applying for a gender recognition cert less painful.

How that managed to turn into the circus it did is a long story, but it ended up with the antis in an endless loop saying no cis woman would ever be safe in a toilet ever again. Instead of turning around and responding, 'Do the math and be reasonable about this, two thirds of the people involved are F to M,' the SNP lost the plot and the whole thing became a mess, with politicians lacking the guts to say, 'The voices branding M to F trans folk this way are guilty of discrimination directly comparable to racism,' they let the whole situation slide away from them.

Since that happened, there has been much less talk in other parts of the UK about fixing the gender recognition cert and also, news outlets have continued to rebroadcast voices opposed to trans. The Cass report landed right on top of this, which was bad luck all round, but what it all means about what the population as a whole thinks is very hard to say.

My impression is that things are going our way if only because of the debate about masculinity that started through MeToo etc. That has raised an awareness that something is off in the gendered behaviour arena, even if the awareness is mostly among women right now. The other thing going our way is that so many musicians are out as trans or  are vocally supportive - ultimately cultural changes often win the war over political desires, however many battles may be lost along the way.

[NikkiM]

I have and it was with a couple women on Tuesday. Went in the women's restroom to use the bathroom and touch something up on my face. Going to the bathroom part was not the issue, it was after touching something up. Both said I was not welcomed in the women's bathroom. It did get out of hand a little bit after I got out,one lunged at me and I maced her good.She was arrested and I did decide to press charges. The other was too, disturbing the peace with charges pressed against her.I was shaken up a little bit and doing a lot better

[ChrissyRyan]

It is not good to be harassed.

[NikkiM]

It is not good to be harassed.

No it is not, they are going to ban these two women for life from entering this place that did it to me. This is the 4th time they harassed a transwoman and this store had enough of it.All I was there for was a gallon of milk,grapes,12 pack of beer for my husband and a bag of chips which I did get

[ChrissyRyan]

I had an unusual happenstance at a local shopping venue.  Unsure if I want to discuss it now as I am unsure what to make of it, perhaps maybe someday I will mention this.

In the meantime ladies, let us be our respectable selves and enjoy each day as they come.  Enjoy life!

There will be some who are and will be unkind.  There have been people who are unkind to others for a variety of reasons:  Maybe because of their heritage, skin color, height, weight, economic class, etc.

Have a nice weekend!

Chrissy

[ChrissyRyan]

No it is not, they are going to ban these two women for life from entering this place that did it to me. This is the 4th time they harassed a transwoman and this store had enough of it.All I was there for was a gallon of milk,grapes,12 pack of beer for my husband and a bag of chips which I did get

You were just being yourself. 

[ChrissyRyan]

We all just want to be ourselves.  Is that too much to ask, should we have to ask?

[barbie]

Interestingly, here in S. Korea, despite perennial news reports of crimes, mostly minor, committed by transgender people, I have never heard any news of crimes against LGBTQ people. The stereotype drawn from the media is that LGBTQ people are not victims, but can be offenders, making an illusion that those minority groups have more power in society.

barbie~~

[WendyPeer]

I am hoping this year, and the years to follow are better than the previous, I faced a lot of conflict, and bullying in transitional, and supportive housing, I finally moved out, my dress borders on elegant and sexy, but is not chic, or kinky. I have heard some drunks mumbling where I live now, but no real problem, I have to see this as a positive, being away from  my parents, being away from my brother, being away from all peer groups, living in a decent 1 bdrm, and finally being out of transitional housing and supportive housing

[Lori Dee]

I am hoping this year, and the years to follow are better than the previous, I faced a lot of conflict, and bullying in transitional, and supportive housing, I finally moved out, my dress borders on elegant and sexy, but is not chic, or kinky. I have heard some drunks mumbling where I live now, but no real problem, I have to see this as a positive, being away from  my parents, being away from my brother, being away from all peer groups, living in a decent 1 bdrm, and finally being out of transitional housing and supportive housing

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