*Read* *Specific* Anne Lawrence, Zomg

[NicholeW.]

I appreciate that you have granted me permission to write, Sarah. Logic, btw, ask tekla, has nothing to do with lessening bias, it can, in fact, ignore bias 100% of the time and still make for a 'logical' argument. Logic works with the way words are strung together for the purpose of an argument. It seldom speaks directly to truth or common sense. Just that if a and B then not C.

No, I am not a therapist. I am in classes to obtain an MSW. Perhaps that makes me a Wazu therapist or whatever logical name you used.

[Sarah]

Watsu.
It is a form of water message therapy that my roomate practices

The point there being that as far as I knew you were a Psychological based therapist and not, say, a message therapist or other such therapist.

As far as logic is concerned though, did you disagree with the conclusions made?

And if so, on what basis?

You have said yourself that youagree with the lack of reliability in the use of Psychology.

Do you think that unreliable and unpredictable results make a good public investment?

That I should pay either taxes, or (in the instance of the Hary Benjamin standards) be forced to pay for out of my pocket simply because it is the status quo?

Sara

The system is broken. I am suggesting that it needs to be remodeled.

EDIT:(or that I should have to pay for a sytem that abuses people)

[NicholeW.]

What I agreed with is what Keira said about social sciences. I also agree that you were abused. I said that.

The more purple portions of your diatribe i am sure you feel very deeply about and I find that understandable. What I disagree with is your 'logic' that due to abuses an entire study should be done away with. That is your pique talking.

As well suggest doing away with science because of Shockley or medicine due to Mengele. Abuse and abusiveness should be stopped. You go rather far beyond that and I imagine that logic has nothing at all to do with it.

N~

[Sarah]

What I agreed with is what Keira said about social sciences. I also agree that you were abused. I said that.

I didn't mention that in this thread Nichole. I was refering to the abuse that is going on at that center in the OP

The more purple portions of your diatribe i am sure you feel very deeply about and I find that understandable. What I disagree with is your 'logic' that due to abuses an entire study should be done away with. That is your pique talking.

I have never said this, and I certainly don't belive it.
I am saying that it should not recieve taxpayers funding.
Or special treatment by government.
What people do in thier own time with their own money is thier own business.

As well suggest doing away with science because of Shockley or medicine due to Mengele. Abuse and abusiveness should be stopped. You go rather far beyond that and I imagine that logic has nothing at all to do with it.

No I have not suggested this.
See Above.


Psychology is helpful for many people Nichole, but due to the lack of reliability, predictability, lack of adherence to scientific principles, and all to common abuse:
I do think it deserves to be pulled from govt. and removed from taxpayer funding.

If someone wants to see a therapist on their own, I have no problem with it.

They should not be required to, And taxpayers should not have to pay for it.