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Just finished watching Michael Moore's Sicko...

Started by lady amarant, January 19, 2008, 06:10:38 PM

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lady amarant

... and I was thoroughly horrified by it. Got me to thinking though, that it would be interesting to compare how GID treatment and standards of treatment differ from country to country, in the same way that Moore does for general healthcare.

So, what do you think: How does The US stack up against Canada? Is the NHS in the UK really that bad compared to everywhere else? Does South Africa even feature, or is it better to just buy a big closet to climb into when I go back home?  :icon_confused:
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Shana A

I watched it a month ago. He did a great job of showing how the system is broken. I hope we can elect someone who will actually do something about it. I'm among the 45 million uninsured in the US so it's an important issue to me. If I need health care, I either pay out of pocket for it, or go without. 

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shanetastic

The only problem with that documentary was that he didn't show the other side of the story. . . He didn't show the negative aspects of perhaps a Canadian system. . . that or the positive side of the U.S. system either.  Overall it was a good documentary though and really did a most wonderful job of showing a broken system.  I have to say it really did make me hate the system of health in which I live in.
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Purple Pimp

I think other countries' socialized medicine is infinitely better.  If you've got the money, you can go private like an American must, but if not there's the safety net of public healthcare.  It may take a long time to reach SRS under, for example, the NHS, but at least it's an extra option rather than nothing at all.

Lia
First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you would do. -- Epictetus
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tekla

Why people in the US always bring up the English system is easy, out of all of them its far from the best, Canada, France and Germany have much better care.
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Dennis

Funny, I just watched it a couple of days ago. I was horrified because I always thought that if you were insured in the US, you did have access to healthcare (although I did know it was difficult for trans issues, I didn't know it was that difficult for uncontroversially life-threatening issues).

From a Canadian point of view, my Dad had bladder cancer. He got the best care, the fastest it could possibly have happened. He died, but I never had a "what if" question. My friend, from the US, had bladder cancer. He got the procedure that cost 1/10 as much and had a much lower survival rate. He died too. I've always wondered "what if" with him. My Dad had the most expensive procedure, but it was also the one that had a 90% survival rate. Dad was one of the 10. Bill never got that chance.

I have had some complaints about wait times and what's covered and stuff like that, but I'd way rather be in this system than the US one (even before I saw Sicko). I paid for my own chest surgery because of the wait times for it here, but if I hadn't been able to, it would've been covered, and I'd much rather the resources went to people like my Dad on an emergency basis anyway.

I don't know a lot about the English system, but it does still seem better than the US system. I've always been curious about how it measures up to the Canadian system, because our politicians point to the English system as a better one than ours because it's two tier and the doctors lobby wants that.

Dennis
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