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Gender Identity Vs Transgender

Started by TheBattler, January 22, 2008, 08:56:26 PM

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TheBattler

I was just reading something and came across the following definitions

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Transgender
A broad range of people who experience and/or express their gender differently from what
most people expect
— either in terms of expressing a gender that does not match the sex
listed on their original birth certificate (i.e., designated sex at birth), or physically changing
their sex. It is an umbrella term that includes people who are transsexual, cross-dressers or
otherwise gender non-conforming. Not all people who consider themselves (or who may be
considered by others as) transgender will undergo a gender transition.

Gender identity
The term "gender identity," distinct from the term "sexual orientation," refers to a person's
innate, deeply felt psychological identification as male or female
, which may or may not
correspond to the person's body or designated sex at birth (meaning what sex was originally
listed on a person's birth certificate).

Gender identity disorder / Gender dysphoria
GID is a psychological diagnosis recognized by the American Psychiatric Association. This
disorder is marked by severe distress and discomfort caused by the conflict between one's
gender identity and one's designated sex at birth
. Not all transgender people experience
gender dysphoria or are diagnosed with GID.



I find this very curious. On Monday part of my rage was that you think it is OK for a cross dresser to transistion. As can be seen by the top definition - a cross dresser is within the transgender community.

What if I still identify as Male?

Sure - my thoughts/actions tell me I should not identify as male - but with my current body I still identify as Male and the reason for transistion is so that I can 'become' female hence my body, thoughts and actions will match.

GID: Well I never stated I hate being male - it is just that female would be better fit for me given my thoughts/emotions. Since my depression is coming not coming from a conflict between my gender identity and birth sex it is questionalble if I do have GID.

I guess what I am saying is this is a very complex area and we are all different. It was with great happiness that my theripst said he thought transistion (I should say HRT) is for me because it comes down to the fact that my distress is cause by my male body.

My thoughts/actions/emotions are different from my birth sex/identity. I always wished I was female so I did not have this conflict.

Alice

 


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Ms.Behavin

Well I would say, "sorry dear, but your TS and not CD".    Me I did not hate being guy, but I never really liked myself either,  Thought I was ugly,  Became very shy and alone for a rather long time.  Today after 15 months HRT, well everything makes sense.  OK the making sense part comes a whole lot sooner. 

Is it not our thoughts and our mental idenity that define who we are.  That bit of cells in the hyper thalmus that say something is not quite right.  That feeling that gee something about the outside does not match the inside.  Yes the body is guy, but then why would you want to change that.  Because the insides says "Hey it would be simplier if the body matched the thoughts.  I know for me, gee everything makes sense now. 

The other thing is once your on HRT, if you like the feelings it gives you, then odds are your ts.  A normal Male would freak on estrogen when things hum go limp.

Looking back for me it's easy to see I was always ts.  OK I always knew it, once I knew it was not just me.  I was always teesed in jr. and Hgh school that I ran like a girl.  Just one of many little problems I had.

Not sure I've helped.  Frankly it would be lots easier to be a CD rather then TS.  But Oh well.  Some of us are just lucky to be that way.

BTW, your looking good.

Beni


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TheBattler

I should say - my theripst recomended HRT (not transistion) to me. He emphasied one step at a time to me.

Alice
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tekla

One step at at time is the only way you make progress.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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lady amarant

My dad likes:

How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

I think it's probably particularly apt in our situations - if we had to consider the whole of transition all at once, we probably would freak out.
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TheBattler

Quote from: Alan on January 22, 2008, 08:56:26 PM
My thoughts/actions/emotions are different from my birth sex/identity. I always wished I was female so I did not have this conflict.

Alice


Maybe I should of never wanted this conflict in the 1st place


Al
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cindybc

 Hi Beni, I agree with what you say.
Well I can remember wanting to be a girl from as early as the age of four or five years old.  It's Unfortunate hat GID or transsexualism were not known very well back in the 60's and 70's when I was a kid growing up, and getting my butt whacked on a fairly regular basis at school, believe me it was no fun.

I didn't know why and the other kids just thought I was just simply weird and an easy target for their amusement. Well as pretty well any of the good folks out there react to what is different and that which is weird, it was either walk around me and giving me lots of space in-case I had some type of weird exotic disease, or just ignore me like I didn't even exist.,

And there are those that will try to snuff you out like a bug given the right place. And even still now if you happen to be at the wrong place for you to be, and the right place for someone who could be detrimental to your health, well...... Hell it even happens to GG's. Don't get me wrong though that if one uses their head they can avoid most of these bumps in the road. I have been 7 years full time and not a soul has bothered me.

Anyway I didn't wast any time beginning transitioning back in 98 when I discovered what Transsexualism was and meant. There is no stopping or turning around mid stream once you have began the voyage, I have heard of some that have tried and they came back in worst shape then they ever were before. Once I came out full time I had no desire to pull back. I might be odd but I have never once regretted the choice I made and I love who I am and I am happy to be who I am, and I will die as who i am, Cindy.

Cindy 
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Hypatia

Quote from: Alice on January 25, 2008, 02:29:13 AM
Quote from: Alan on January 22, 2008, 08:56:26 PM
My thoughts/actions/emotions are different from my birth sex/identity. I always wished I was female so I did not have this conflict.

Alice


Maybe I should of never wanted this conflict in the 1st place
I'm not sure I understand what you mean, you wanted the conflict.

If a conflict like this is going to happen, it's just going to happen and there's nothing you can do to stop it. The smartest approach to it would be to learn how to manage it well.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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