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my unconvincing coming-out.

Started by fluffy jorgen, January 26, 2008, 02:27:35 PM

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deviousxen

At least she's on the same page almost.

How old are you anyway? When do you turn 18?
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foreversarah

Hi,

I know what it's like to have people bullying you, it's depressing and you just want to be by yourself. my depression is holding me back from coming out because it has knocked my confidence even though I know the longer I leave it the worse it will get.

Sarah
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deviousxen

You're not alone there, my depression makes me not even want to leave my house, let alone tell people.

Don't stop trying to get rid of it, it is essential Sarah. I still am, and its hard, but I know the right catalysts can make me see things the way I like to again.

And I do know what you mean by the longer you wait, the worse it gets. When you tell someone you trust, you'll be surprised if it goes well though, the stress will kind of dissipate after they have a look of understanding. Its probably not always like that, but I was surprised, so don't give up on that.

Who bullies you anyway? Is it school? Cause if it isn't too much on your parents, you could possibly homeschool and ignore the fact people like the bullies even existed. ;)
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fluffy jorgen

#23
I'm already 18. : )

Oh, hell, did I hate school, I had to put up with racism mainly and I don't dare open my mouth now I'm in college, so people don't notice an accent. I don't need that on top of this. I've been reading up on all the legal things you have to sign when you change your sex and that's gonna be hell from what I've heard, people are just so awfully shallow! Still, better than it used to be in the "old" days.

Quoteyou could possibly homeschool

That's what I asked my mum a couple of years back. She said: no. Then I just stopped going and thus because of bullies, I've already wasted three years of my life on clinical depression and all sorts. : (

On topic, I wanna talk to mum again, because I just want her to know.
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deviousxen

Its good to tell people where you stand. And yeah... Depression does that to me as well...

The other person in this thread seemed bullied as well...

And Racist??

You look white. :D Whats the deal with that?
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fluffy jorgen

Well, racism doesn't have to be only skin colour based.
It's enough that you're not fully English here and you'll get torn to shreds ; (.

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J.T.

my mom initially went the andro route.  the day after i told her, she said "i think you're androgynous, you've never been a manly man."

but now, nine months later, she's asking me about when i can get surgery and so forth.

she'll get there...
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deviousxen

Quote from: fluffy jorgen on March 08, 2008, 06:18:23 AM
Well, racism doesn't have to be only skin colour based.
It's enough that you're not fully English here and you'll get torn to shreds ; (.



That sucks. Yeah... My town is rich, white, bigoted suburbia. I can empathize. Just remember a nice heartwarming fact:

The majority of those people will just end up as cops or mall security guards or cubicle imprisoned dopes. If you succeed, its a nice way to get revenge.
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fluffy jorgen

Quoteor cubicle imprisoned dopes
lmao. that made my day.

J.T., i hope she will : )
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deviousxen

Happy someone had their day made. Heh
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fluffy jorgen

#30
well. mum knows. not a lot, but enough not to start an argument when i address myself as male. now, the problem's friends. in particular, new friends. whose parents think "all this" is abnormal. and the old friends get an earful off their parents too, 'cause the new friends are friends of the old friends if you follow.

i've "split" with my boyfriend, turns out i'm too serious and complicated for him. fair enough, apart from him only a couple of people see the boy in me. lots of peeps who see my pics online, comment: is he gay or something? and i'm like: yes.
so photo-wise i'm ok. i pass as a feminine boy, which is my intention.

still haven't been to my Psychologist to ask her about Gender Specialists, paranoid she'll start brainwashing me again with all her "feel good" stuff.

and off topic, happy Easter.
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deviousxen

Lol. You remind me a lot of my friend, but I don't know how far she'd go right now in this.



Happy Easter too. This week was good.
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fluffy jorgen

Hella.
Hardly thought about me at all.
I've been putting this off too much. Any excuse like.
I feel like I'm interfering in the Lives of my friends now just to avoid my Own "problems", whereas originally I tried to help them because of THEM, not because of ME.
I wanna change my name! My passport expires this month. It will be another 10 years before I get a new one. I want my name on there! What do I do? Help. No, actually I'll make another topic for this.
Other thoughts, include- Why are girls more attracted to me than boys? If some of the girls in my class could just stop calling me bitch. Not that I mind, just use something more masculine! For God's sakes.
Got in trouble with some girl's Mum last week. Been chatting to this girl for ages, (I know her through my ex) and obviously I told her I was a Boy, a Transexual and so on. Her mum and step-dad went mental when they found out. They couldn't tell what I was, called me a freak and hell knows what else, look where Honesty got me. Suppose I'll have to lose a lot of friends along "the way". Some of them have already said they won't be friends with me anymore once I have a full sex change and so on. God damn it!
I don't care if I don't sound like myself at the mo! This forum has helped me such an awful lot and people don't care if I sound like a Headcase. So thank you.
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deviousxen

Ignore the parents... ::)

They sound like complete imbeciles.

And you're being pretty decisive eh? I hope it goes well. You see... Thats the problem. Its pretty much taken me a year of knowing someone to actually tell them some of my problems, when I was drunk. You've got guts telling someone right off the bat!
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fluffy jorgen

#34
It's 'cause so many people know already (outside family) and they're fine with it, or at least neutral. They don't live in this Country though so if I lost them it wouldn't hurt much because they're never here anyway. We see each other like Twice, Three times a Year the most.
I know, my mouth's gonna get me into trouble, isn't it?

Edit: I must admit my coming out is becoming more convicing, just because I'm being so persistent.
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fluffy jorgen

Grr.
Today (or should I say yesterday, as it's now 1am here) was really bad.
Went clothes shopping. I wanted some ordinary sleeveless shirts (preferably with some pattern), what you call them, school shirts? Lol.
So I went in all my usual shops and suddenly as I tried each one on, I noticed- I hated them! They're all cut to fit a woman's form and make the hips, breasts, etc. stand out.
So I said to mum: I'm going to go the Men's section from now on. (Instead of shopping at stupid places like Debenhams again OR buying Unisex clothes)
She said: What was the point of me taking you here then?
Blah, blah, nothing is ever good enough for me. She'd wanted to buy me some sports-bras or something because she thinks they work better than binders apparently. Like hell they do, they only have 6% Lycra in them!
So basically the time I came out to her a couple of months ago was a waste of time because she said "God knows why you want all this crap".  :'(
In the end, I bought a stripy shirt because it was on Sale and I can't resist a bargain, but it's too... tight, (not that I'm large, I just hate tight clothes) so I'm taking it back to the shop tomorrow and going on holiday with clothes that are like ten years old, because I have nothing else that I like or that fits that doesn't cost hundreds and hundreds of pounds.
Plus, currently, I have no binder and I can't seem to make a D.I.Y. binder either and today I got called "a lady" and I feel like wearing a paper bag over my head. God, I feel lousy!
Rant over.  :-\
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Elwood

The same thing happened to me, sort of. She also said I "can't" be a boy. I'm like, not "allowed" to. It's really irritating. My mom also said that God doesn't make mistakes, and that I'm supposed to be a girl...

I'm trans and questioning my sexuality. For a long time I thought I was a gay man, but sometimes I'm attracted to women. I think I might be bi, but still, being bi and transitioning to male doesn't make sense to most people. I hear a lot of people say that gay boys are girls in men's bodies, but they're stupid. They don't understand. Being feminine doesn't make someone a girl... and not all gay men are feminine.

If your mom isn't going to listen, it's not worth trying to shove it down her throat. You're going to have to do what I'm doing now... I had to wait until I was 18 to start the process. Because of that it's been 6 months and nothing has happened. Both my parents wonder why I want my breasts removed. The keep saying they're small enough for me to pass. But see, I want to be able to have someone touch my chest and not say, "OMG, boobs?" You know? I want to be able to take my shirt off-- or rather, wear thinner shirts. I'm tired of triple layering my clothes. If I don't later, my chest shows even though I'm only an A cup.

As for friends, well, I hang out with queers. Then their parents don't mind, because they had to accept their kid was queer before they ran into me. Some straight friends will have parents who get it, but even if their parents don't get it, you can still socialize with them at school/college or whatever.

Posted on: July 25, 2008, 05:25:08 PM
Quote from: Jörgen on July 25, 2008, 07:14:41 PMGrr.
Today (or should I say yesterday, as it's now 1am here) was really bad.
Went clothes shopping. I wanted some ordinary sleeveless shirts (preferably with some pattern), what you call them, school shirts? Lol.
So I went in all my usual shops and suddenly as I tried each one on, I noticed- I hated them! They're all cut to fit a woman's form and make the hips, breasts, etc. stand out.
So I said to mum: I'm going to go the Men's section from now on. (Instead of shopping at stupid places like Debenhams again OR buying Unisex clothes)
She said: What was the point of me taking you here then?
Blah, blah, nothing is ever good enough for me. She'd wanted to buy me some sports-bras or something because she thinks they work better than binders apparently. Like hell they do, they only have 6% Lycra in them!
So basically the time I came out to her a couple of months ago was a waste of time because she said "God knows why you want all this crap".  :'(
In the end, I bought a stripy shirt because it was on Sale and I can't resist a bargain, but it's too... tight, (not that I'm large, I just hate tight clothes) so I'm taking it back to the shop tomorrow and going on holiday with clothes that are like ten years old, because I have nothing else that I like or that fits that doesn't cost hundreds and hundreds of pounds.
Plus, currently, I have no binder and I can't seem to make a D.I.Y. binder either and today I got called "a lady" and I feel like wearing a paper bag over my head. God, I feel lousy!
Rant over.  :-\
Meh. I'm an A too and I won't bind because I don't want to compromise my surgery. Binding can damage the breast tissue and make surgery more... well, difficult.

You should get a job (you're 18, right?) and go on your own time to the men's department. It's what I'd do if my parents weren't supportive (except I'm lucky because they are and my dad and step mom looked at guy's clothes with me...)

As for being called a lady, I got all sorts of that today. The biggest one was, "You his daughter?" Then we were talking about construction helmets. I liked how one of the girls had a pink one. Everyone apparently thought that was really girly of me. I wasn't saying I wanted one, I was saying it was cute on her:-\
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