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Does sexual orientation change?

Started by ErickaM, January 30, 2008, 05:36:01 PM

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ErickaM

I have been on hrt now for about 18 months and ever since coming out to my wife, in 2001, I have reassured her that my sexual orientation is that I am attracted to women.  But I have been noticing some of the good looking guys around work.  I was wondering if this is normal, everything I have read states that one's sexual orientation doesn't change due to hrt.  Now don't get me wrong, a beautiful walks by I still take notice but like I said if a handsome guy come by I take notice also.  How many of you out there have had the same experience? 
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Tanya1

it does happen- HRT can affect such changes- sometimes after SRS many become straight..

Your brain is rewiring itself and the pheremones also have some effect
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gothique11

For some, yes, it does, or they go back and forth for a while. Of course, it can be confusing to be attracted to women your whole life and then you start noticing a few cute guys.

It has happened to me, even though the majority of the time I like women. And believe me, it can get pretty confusing at times.

And like Tanya mentioned, your brain undergoes changes along with the rest of your body, etc. I find that it's very common from the people I've talked to.

--natalie
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Luc

Well, I've heard that it works that way sometimes for mtfs... myself, yeah. Prior to testosterone my attraction was about 95% toward women, 5% toward men. Now it's about 50-50. It's strange... but I figure it all comes with the territory. And no, I don't think it's just that my sex drive was upped significantly and I'm now "omnisexual" or something. Part of it may be that as a "female," I couldn't conceive of being with men, but as a man, I can. I never wanted to be a straight woman or a lesbian, and had serious problems with being thought of as either, but I've always had a certain fascination with gay men... but I digress. I'm married. It's irrelevant. But yeah, I'd say orientation can easily change, with or without extra hormones in the mix.

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Nero

Well, I'm not on HRT. But once I am and look like a man, I'm going to be very uncomfortable with the notion of 'being a man who likes other men'. I'm bi, always was, always will be, but will likely just end up with women.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Berliegh

#5
Does sexual orientation change?

With some people it does....others it doesn't. I'm still attracted to women but some men are attractive but on the whole I find men physically quite unattractive....
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Seshatneferw

Quote from: ErickaM on January 30, 2008, 05:36:01 PM
How many of you out there have had the same experience? 

:icon_wave-nerd: Me!

I'm not even on HRT, but just admitting to myself what's going on inside my head has had this effect. There are many sexual orientations, though, and while some of them do not depend on your own sex some of them do. My current hypothesis is that I'm mostly heterosexual, with some attraction to women thrown in. The idea of male homosexuality doesn't do anything for me either way, and while the female variant has some appeal it's clearly not my first choice. I'm still more likely to look at a woman, but that's partly because of the envy factor, not just the attraction.

Sexual orientation is in fact one of the main reasons why I'm reluctant to start HRT (let alone do anything more than market research regarding SRS options). I want to not just be attractive to the woman I love but also to be attracted to her, and for both these purposes my wrongly-sexed body is better than the correct one would be. Most of my fantasies involve the two of us sexed the other way, but that's the kind of weird I am.

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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Schala

I was asexual, uninterested in anyone. HRT made me interested in men mostly, possibly women (just less so).
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Robyn

I  remember being shocked by my reaction at seeing a young "yard boy" walk down the street stripped to the waist.  "Mmmmm.  Very nice."  I slapped myself and thought, "Robyn, what are you doing?"  That was after 6 months on hormones.

So what did God give me but an FTM husband - who hadn't been a lesbian.  Sigh.

Robyn the elder
Nonpracticing bisexual, serial monogamist
When we walk to the edge of all the light we have and take the step into the darkness of the unknown, we must believe that one of two things will happen. There will be something solid for us to stand on or we will be taught to fly. — Patrick Overton
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Audrey

In my case deep down I have always been attracted to men.  I was in denial for the longest time and during high school had a girlfriend.  It was more to try to convince myself that "OMG I am not gay, what is wrong with me".  A thought that had been implanted from my upbringing.  As I came to accept my transgender nature a few years later,  I realized that it was ok to feel the way I feel.  So I basically stopped fooling myself that I was "a straight guy" and realized that I am a straight female.

Audrey
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Nero

Quote from: Audrey on January 31, 2008, 12:34:09 PM
In my case deep down I have always been attracted to men.  I was in denial for the longest time and during high school had a girlfriend.  It was more to try to convince myself that "OMG I am not gay, what is wrong with me".  A thought that had been implanted from my upbringing.  As I came to accept my transgender nature a few years later,  I realized that it was ok to feel the way I feel.  So I basically stopped fooling myself that I was "a straight guy" and realized that I am a straight female.

Audrey

Audrey, is that you in your avatar? cause um... WOW
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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SusanK

Don't tell the gay community sexual orientation is open to change, and especially don't tell the trans/homophobic community. I personally think it's one reaon why some in the gay community don't like transpeople, namely m2f's, because many do change their orientation from gay as males to straight as women.  They don't get the attraction is the same, the thinking and expression changes. And the trans/homophobic would jump on this for a "cure" not realizing they're part of the mix too. My personal belief is that we're all born bi-sexual, and only express a general preference because of our individual nature/nuture circumstances, and it varies with time, place, circumstances and situation over our life. And one's susceptibility to changes is generally nature (genes), why some feel exclusively attracted to one sex, some don't and some vary. But it's not always just sexual attraction, but also about interpersonal attraction for the whole range of factors. People like to limit it to sex because they think it separates things and people, when it doesn't. Why else are them sex/gender specific clubs, groups, etc. if for everything but sex, but includes companisonship, friendship, character, etc.? So why is just sex considered differently by recent cultures? It wasn't in the past, sex was just that, and without any overtones of morality.
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Audrey

Quote from: Nero on January 31, 2008, 12:52:51 PM
Quote from: Audrey on January 31, 2008, 12:34:09 PM
In my case deep down I have always been attracted to men.  I was in denial for the longest time and during high school had a girlfriend.  It was more to try to convince myself that "OMG I am not gay, what is wrong with me".  A thought that had been implanted from my upbringing.  As I came to accept my transgender nature a few years later,  I realized that it was ok to feel the way I feel.  So I basically stopped fooling myself that I was "a straight guy" and realized that I am a straight female.

Audrey

Audrey, is that you in your avatar? cause um... WOW


Last time I checked.   ;D ;)
Thanks
Audrey
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Cortana

This is actually a funny question as I'm beginning to see changes in my sexual orientation as well. I never used to be really attracted to females or males really, you would have called me a "Non-Sexual" back then but recently I've been noticing cute guys. So there has definitely been a shift in the force (if ya know what I mean :icon_giggle: .) I really find it enjoyable though. What's really fun is when I'm like out with my mom or somethin' and we see a cute guy, say in starbucks, and we'll both look at each other with this look on our faces like "Oooooo he's cute" and then we get a good laugh 'cause we were thinking the same thing.

My advice is don't worry, the changes are natural and will take place like it or not. Not to mention you still do love your wife right? Then nothing will ever change between you two and sexual orientation can never change that. (Unless you want to be with a guy then it can get complicated.) ;)

So my answer is yes HRT can definitely change your sexual orientation. ;)
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ErickaM

I was talking to my electoligist the other day and she had said some thing about me being attracted to boys. Now I told here, "you know that I'm married (been married for 18 years) and I am only into girls."  And that is when she said give the homones a little longer to work and that will all change.  That is what got me to thinking and I have been attrative to a few guys.  I still say that I don't want to have sex with a guy, but I am thinking that a few are rather cute.  But who knows in a few months I maybe sing a different song.

Posted on: January 31, 2008, 03:52:05 PM
Quote from: Krista on January 31, 2008, 03:44:13 PM
you still do love your wife right?

Yes, I still love here very much and I have reassured her of the same thing, but she has a fear that as I continue to transistion that I would want to have a relationship with a guy.
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Seshatneferw

Quote from: ErickaM on January 31, 2008, 03:56:57 PM
Yes, I still love here very much and I have reassured her of the same thing, but she has a fear that as I continue to transistion that I would want to have a relationship with a guy.

I trust you both still remember that there is a difference between attraction, love, and committment to a marriage. Yes, noticing boys may be an interesting experience, in a teenage-girl way, but you don't have to act on that attraction. After all, your wife has been attracted to boys all through your marriage -- do you imagine you are the only sexy one around? ;)

As long as you still find each other compatible attraction-wise, you should be all right. Hopefully that's the case.

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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lisagurl

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tinkerbell

Probably.  If you do some research on this very website, you will read some posts from some members whose sexual orientation has apparently shifted.  Personally, I don't think it is possible.  My view is that sexual orientation is innate and unchangeable, but of course that is just my opinion, not Tink's law of any sort. I like men too much to even consider being intimate with a girl.  That is just a huge no-no on my book, and needless to say, that isn't happening anytime soon!, I mean "NEVER" :P

tink :icon_chick:
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Cortana

Quote from: ErickaM on January 31, 2008, 03:56:57 PM
Yes, I still love here very much and I have reassured her of the same thing, but she has a fear that as I continue to transistion that I would want to have a relationship with a guy.
I wouldn't lie to you, you may want a relationship that is more on a romantic basis with a man but like Ashley put it "Would you act on the urge?"

Think of it this way, when you were a guy (even though you probably never ever felt that way) were you ever attracted to a female while you were married? Like sexually? It's the same thing! You were attracted to the female but because of the commitment you had made and the love you have for your wife you did not act on the urge. This would be the same situation, just with a male. ;)
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NicholeW.

Gosh, I don't wanna seem to be backing up a fellow mod, but in this case I must. Because I agree with her.

I do believe that some people are bi-sexual.

I won't say 'all' because I have no way of knowing, but I think the vast majority of people who 'change' attractions have probably always been attracted to that sex, just weren't able to allow that in themselves.

An opinion, no better than anyone else's.


Nichole
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