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Our Crumbling Civilization: Girly Boy Edition (blog/commentary)

Started by Natasha, February 11, 2008, 11:17:33 AM

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Natasha

Our Crumbling Civilization: Girly Boy Edition

http://cheatseekingmissiles.blogspot.com/2008/02/our-crumbling-civilization-girly-boy.html
02/09/2008

I knew we were in for cultural melt-down when a news article out of Denver started with this:

"The issue of being transgender usually pops up with students in high school."
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lady amarant

Oh lordy will they never stop?!

Please. Everybody post a comment on this damned blog. Or if you have nothing better to do, ten maybe.
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tekla

There is some old adage about giving a thousand monkeys typewriters and one of them will write Shakespeare - the others blog.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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mickiejr1815

ok, i guess i will go on one of my rants again...lol. this thing wouldn't have even got this much publicity if it had been a girl wanting to be a boy. then again i could be wrong. women have strived for years to be equal to men and that's fine, but when a boy wants to be equal to his female counterpart he's automatically ostracized. he's a ->-bleeped-<-got, a wierdo, he's got some kind of contagious disease like the black plague. it's ridiculous. i praise the school for doing the right thing and making sure the little girl is safe. it's like i posted on the site, i have a daughter and i have son, BOTH show equal traits of masculinity and femininity. my daughter rips holes in the knees of her pretty jeans, sits like a man while wearing a skirt, and still likes a lot of girlie stuff. my son likes makeup and nail polish, and he also likes playing with little boy toys such as cars, legos, and trains. if they outgrow it--FINE. if they don't--FINE. i will not love my children any less because they feel they are in the wrong body or they want to be different. i do my damnedest to teach my children to accept people for their differences. like i have stated before, i work at an extremely diverse place. my manager is married to a nice Asian woman, my co-manager is gay, my assistant manager is disabled due to miltary involvement, and the list goes on. if we were all the same and normal, this whole damned world would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boring. i don't give a blankety-blankety blank what the conservatives and republicans(no offense to site members) think--GOD CREATED US ALL!!!! end of rant.


Mickie
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cindianna_jones

Hmmmm.... I'm trying a different angle for these right wingers... Here's my response:

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Let's say that you are able to box the child's feelings in. Let's say you can make the child "be" normal through adolescence. Assume for a moment that this "normal" young person gets married and has children. And then let us examine what happens when these internalized feelings can no longer be held at bay. What then?

Would you want your daughter to marry a nice young man who has somehow managed to hide this all his life because that is what his society wants? Would you want your daughter to have to deal with her husband going through a crisis because "he" has always felt that he is a woman? Would you want your grandchildren to suffer because their "daddy" can no longer work or worse yet must leave home because he has been ostracized? Would you want to see your son in law change into a woman before your very eyes?

Wouldn't it be best if this is out in the open from the onset?

Cindi Jones
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mickiejr1815

ok, Cindi, i am going to try and answer this the best i can. i was one of the boys who was FORCED to be normal through my adolescence, even went to southern baptist church. men don't have long hair, etc. etc. the whole nine yards. in the high school i went to one if a male came out as anything but straight, they pretty much lynched you. i got a grey leather jacket from a friend, it already had "war wounds" so by everybody once wearing it i  was branded a pimp, or they nicknamed me the Godfather, (neone who watches wwe knows what i mean) most of the day, i could be found with at least two or three girls on my arms, this is not an exaggeration, my wife will vouch for me. the truth is tho, i actually barely even kissed few of them. most of them were all my girl friends. onto whether i would want my daughter to date a man in that position. it would depend on the man the situation and my daughter. more than anything in the world, just like any normal daddy i want my lil girl(s) to be happy. but i wouldn't want her to date some man forced into be "normal" because society says he has to be. i would want him to be honest and with her daddy being the way i am and her not being at all shy, i really doubt she will ever have a problem asking. i try and teach her if she is not sure about something ask, unlike the some of the customers i work with at work. they refuse to ask me what sex i am but they will go ask everybody else. i find that rude and offensive they don't have the respect to ask the person they are questioning. but i also understand they don't want to risk being embarassed either. and as for not working i have already been there and done that more than i wanted to without ever telling anyone but my wife that i was trans. in my book around here(ohio) where i live some of the places i have put applications and had interviews, i watched the woman or the black man get hired over me because of discrimination claims, i knew i was qualified and overqualified in some cases. it's terrible because where i work now, we have ONE black male out of 300 employees, wierd huh? yes it would be best if this was out and open from the onset. i think i have posted before that i told my wife BEFORE we ever got married that i always felt like a woman, i'm quite emotional, i hate wearing men's clothes, etc. etc. i think her dad kinda knows, my dad-all he cares about is that his son, daughters and grandchildren are all happy. i could really care less what my maternal parent(a mother to me she was not) thinks, i know her grandma will disown both of us at present, and probably anyone who has contact with us, grandpa will probably shoot me seeing that he's from Arkansas, and her mama who i love quite dearly ran off to michigan with her family.

daddy forced to leave home...that is between the wife and husband in my book, the government should not have any part of it. i am one of the extremely lucky ones, my wife likes to go out and work, but i know she can't handle the stress of our two kids and work both 24/7. i have ALWAYS wanted to stay home and take care of the kids( i guess that makes me the "wimpy" father right? oh no, i'm a man who enjoys spending time with his kids and doing housework. i know everyone is not like me nor is every situation like mine. my daughter has no problem telling people i am her daddy no matter how i am dressed, yeah she's only about 6 but i really don't think it will ever change. i feel as if whenever somebody says transsexual the only thing that translates in their mind is a picture of a drag queen with big hair and tons of makeup, and that's just not who we are, some maybe, but me no.

i'm not sure if i would want to see me my son in law change into a woman before my very eyes, but in my case, he would have help and someone who understands and is a lot more accepting. i'm guessing it depends on the guy. every parent wants to see their children happy, usually. i can also understand that my daughter married a man, and that's what she thought she was getting. everybody deals with this a different way. if we force people to be normal, so that every one is the same, it could end up leading to a higher suicide rate, would we really want that among our children? i would rather seeing them excelling at whatever they become good at no matter what sex, sexual orientation, color, etc. etc. etc. they are. just my two cents worth.
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