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What about, sigh, hair replacement?

Started by HelenW, March 31, 2006, 07:26:08 PM

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HelenW

Our site has a great deal of information and discussion about removing that ugly unwanted hair that testosterone seems to promote with unrelenting abandon but very little is mentioned about hair replacement.  You could say that the topic is a little thin  >:D !

The deities that watch over the hairs on your head have a much lighter duty with me than with many others.  In other words, I'm pretty bald. I'm not sure how to combat this other than using a wig for the rest of my life.  I've been taking Avodart, an anti-androgen that supposedly helps hair growth, for an unrelated condition but I'm not sure if it would be enough in my case.  Actually I'm pretty sure that it won't be.  Reading the boxes of minoxidil at the ^%$#-mart tells me that my hair loss is too advanced for it to be of any help.  What has been the experience of those who have walked this path before me?  What worked, what didn't?  Was it a really really big investment?

My hair, or really the lack of it, has been a continuing concern for me of late, especially as summer is coming and a wig will most likely be way too warm.  I perspire very liberally, particuarly my head.  So,  what can I do?

thnx
helen
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Kimberly

Keep in mind the miscellaneous boxes of minoxidil type things are considering genetic males with free flowing testosterone and other icky male juices. I.e. Perhaps this is a topic your therapist can help you with...
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stephanie_craxford

What a catch 22 sort of thing.  You want your hair but by reducing your testosterone you reduce the one of the things that gives you that hair.  As Kimberly said your therapist or your doctor "may" be able to help.  I'm pretty sure that baldness is hereditary so to get an idea of how bad it may get you could check out your male relatives.  Some have tried hair transplants but I'm not sure how good the results are.

Steph
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Kate

Quote from: HelenW on March 31, 2006, 07:26:08 PMWhat has been the experience of those who have walked this path before me?  What worked, what didn't?  Was it a really really big investment?

I've researched this to death, and there are only a couple chemical options that we know work.

Avodart is the best option available right now, though as you know, it's not officially "indicated" for hair loss. Still, we know Glaxo proved that it's even better than finasteride (at 5mg/day = Proscar) - though by how much is controversial.

Proscar and Propecia work very well too (both are finatseride, just different dosages, similar effectiveness). But in theory, Avodart (deutasteride) is better, as it reduces DHT more than finasteride can.

Naturally, the anti-T drugs transitioning TSs take are probably even better. Spironolactone should be better than even Avodart, as it reduces T itself, and not just DHT. But I'm guessing a bit about that.

Minoxidil works too, though it's generally not as effective as the above drugs. BUT, since it works in a different way, it's advantageous to use BOTH minoxidil AND Avodart (or Propecia/Proscar). The two work together.

A less-commonly known treatment is using 2% Nizoral shampoo twice a week. It contains Ketoconazole, which reduces inflammation, and is rumoured to have a weak anti-DHT effect. In any case, studies have shown it to be as effective as 2% minoxidil. Since it too works in a unique way, it's helpful to add this too to your regimine.

In the end, it's known as "The Big Three" in hair loss circles: Avodart or Proscar or Propecia, minoxidil, and 2% Nizoral. Beyond those three, everything else is a guess, and in my opinion, isn't worth the money.

I'm pretty happy with my results from those, though I never developed any totally bald patches before starting - just thinning. But the balding stopped, and some of it has filled in. It's not dramatic, but heck, any kind of regrowth is far better than a continued loss. I can honestly say that I have more hair now then I did five years ago. For someone who was balding fast, that's a miracle :)

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/ is an excellent resource, especially the discussion forum.

http://www.heralopecia.com/ provides a female point of view on the subject.
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Robyn

Helen,

I am one who has no choice but to wear wigs.  I have settled in on Paula Young lightweight synthetics and always buy two the same.  That way I can shampoo one and wear the other while the first dries and is styled and spritzed.  I also keep an older wig handy for swimming, hiking, etc.

I've spent the last two summers in Virginia.  Warm to hot, yes, but I still find I don't have to shampoo the new wigs all that often, since I have the old one handy for hot stuff outside of work (air conditioned).

Febreze is a good product for keeping the wig cap fresh.

I'd post a picture or place one in my profile, but all I find for profiles is a way to choose avatars. 

Other folks have real pictures; so there must be a way.

Maybe one has to be here longer to move from visitor to newbie to ??? with increasing privileges.

Robyn
When we walk to the edge of all the light we have and take the step into the darkness of the unknown, we must believe that one of two things will happen. There will be something solid for us to stand on or we will be taught to fly. — Patrick Overton
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stephanie_craxford

Quote from: reikirobyn on April 01, 2006, 06:30:54 PM
I'd post a picture or place one in my profile, but all I find for profiles is a way to choose avatars. 

Other folks have real pictures; so there must be a way.

Maybe one has to be here longer to move from visitor to newbie to ??? with increasing privileges.

Robyn

Check out:

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,2427.0.html

Steph
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Annie Social

Kate: I'm not sure whether Spiro would be better; as I understand it, it blocks receptors for Testosterone reather than stopping the production of testosterone itself. Whether this would have the desired effect, I have no idea. (Also, it seems that once the testosterone receptors are shut down, there is an excess of the stuff and the testicles reduce their output. So maybe it would work!)

Robyn: I believe you have to have 15 posts before being able to upload your own picture.

Annie
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RebeccaFog

My hair loss began at 18. I'm over 40 now and I know I'm not going to get my hair back. It was one of my most feminine qualities when I was a teenager and, as the hair went, so also went my soul. Fortunately, I've gotten my soul back.

I haven't begun transitioning, but I know it won't make a difference for my hair. I'll end up trying wigs before I try transitioning, I guess.

When I find the God who was responsible for watching over my hair; I will wreak such vengeance that the Gods will not dare allow this to happen to future generations.


Becky
(generally happy but quite touchy on this one topic)
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