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i can;t stand it anymore:(i need my new name

Started by deniz, February 25, 2008, 10:59:15 AM

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deniz

Hello everyone. I should be telling these to my therapist, but no one can understand us, unless he/she 's been there once.
i have been living as a girl for a long time, i can no longer pass as a male.That is a wonderfull thing of course.However,it has brought me HUGE problems(regarding identification).
As i have written before in Greece you can not change your name unless you have grs.That means you have to be treaded as a freak until you can afford grs.
I can not go to my own bank to have a cash withdraw,(MY MONEY), unless i make a fool of my self.I can not go out at night by car, because if cops stop me for a routine control, that 80% leads to a police station nightover, until someone justifies that the girl they are seeing, is the boy in the driving licence. I can not ask for a new identity card and driving licence, because it takes 50 DAYS!!!! to be without one, and then file an new request. I am a lawer, and 50 days without identity and driving licence mean UNEMPLOYMENT!!!!
life is hell right now. i can;t stand being a good looking girl, turning into a freak because my name can not change.One person in court told me'' what on earth are you doing here?were you caught red handed for prostitution??and he was laughing:(and imagine i have finished the same university with him:(
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tekla

I can see where that is a very hard deal, but its also hard to get around the law.



For my US sisters:  Note please,
if cops stop me for a routine control, - that's what 'homeland security' really looks like.  And its not pretty.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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lady amarant

That's the worst of it, isn't it - that people think they have the right somehow to treat you like s**t because you're different. The dehumanisation. That guy in the court-house. Wow. The sad part is that he was probably raised to be courteous towards women, respectful of men, all the usuall good stuff, but with us it just doesn't apply.

Sorry hon. Move to ... <- insert name of ANYWHERE else, here...
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Seshatneferw

Oh dear.

The laws are quite a bit more lenient here in the north, so that one can get a name change after a diagnosis. Waiting until SRS is guaranteed to make life hell. Likewise, when applying for a replacement driving licence I only had to surrender the old one when picking up the new card.

Still, would it be possible to do some of the things piece-meal? For instance, are there names that are acceptable for both males and females? Couldn't you, say, first apply for a passport and after receiving it get the ID card updated? How does the Greek bureaucracy deal with a lost or stolen driving licence?

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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deniz

Quote from: Seshatneferw on February 25, 2008, 11:31:36 AM
Oh dear.

The laws are quite a bit more lenient here in the north, so that one can get a name change after a diagnosis. Waiting until SRS is guaranteed to make life hell. Likewise, when applying for a replacement driving licence I only had to surrender the old one when picking up the new card.

Still, would it be possible to do some of the things piece-meal? For instance, are there names that are acceptable for both males and females? Couldn't you, say, first apply for a passport and after receiving it get the ID card updated? How does the Greek bureaucracy deal with a lost or stolen driving licence?

  Nfr


50 days for any case. and unfortunately there are not acceptable names for both males and females:(orthodox religion is strict to that:(
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Beyond

Have you ever considered moving to a more enlightened country?  If things are that bad you should be able to emigrate and ask for asylum (getting around regular immigration laws) because that's inhumane how they treat people born TS there.
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Seshatneferw

No need for asylum, she's free to move within the EU. Bureaucratically speaking, that is -- in reality, our union is culturally and ethnicallly much more segregated than the one across the Atlantic, and in that sense it's much harder to move, say, from Athens to Copenhagen than from Houston to Chicago.

Deniz: by law we too have strictly gender-segregated names, it's not just an Orthodox thing. Still, for various historical reasons there are a few names that have been given to both boys and girls, and I thought it might have been possibly the case over there too, and a viable alternative.

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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tekla

"Tekla" for one.  The only saint in the Catholic church that has a male St. Tekla, and a female St. Tekla.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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