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Started by deniz, February 22, 2008, 04:34:21 AM

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deniz

 :embarrassed:

Well I would like to share sth with you, sth that makes me really insecure.
I am young,not a teenager but 23 is considered to be a young age of transition( actually i started a couple of years ago). My appearance is feminime, some of you know that i have a stealth relationship with a boy( i have posted it before).
My parents are very VERY understanding and support me financially. I have come out to my mother 1 year ago. With me father we have never discussed it openly but when we are together his friends ask him. Is this your daughter?? And he simply does not reply but midly laughs.(He pretends as if he heard nothing.and he says nothing to be. Anyway he never makes me feel uncomfortble. However, sometimes he tells me. When you go to the army(yes he is blind) your mind will clear and your depression will go away. My mother knows everything but she asks me not to mention to my father my ts status.Because to their eyes i am just a kid.and kids sometimes look as if they have not gender. But if i procceed with my transtition years will pass and i will be a woman and she doesn;t know if she and my father can handle that. However they want me to be happier because exactly happy you will never be my son(she said) since you have this disorder.
Their love is touching, but their minds are so wird. or am i wird my self? am i the wrong one?Should i leave them?what if i end up alone and miserable(because on terms of social life other than my bf, my parents are always there for me)
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Berliegh

Are you still living at home at 23? I left home and bought my first house at 23. Maybe if you do still live with your parents it's time to move out and live your own life...
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deniz

Quote from: Berliegh on February 22, 2008, 05:52:43 AM
Are you still living at home at 23? I left home and bought my first house at 23. Maybe if you do still live with your parents it's time to move out and live your own life...
No i am not. I live in an another city not too far/But i depend on them( on every term you can imagine). i visit every friday to sunday feeling it;s my shelter
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Berliegh

Quote from: deniz on February 22, 2008, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on February 22, 2008, 05:52:43 AM
Are you still living at home at 23? I left home and bought my first house at 23. Maybe if you do still live with your parents it's time to move out and live your own life...
No i am not. I live in an another city not too far/But i depend on them( on every term you can imagine). i visit every friday to sunday feeling it;s my shelter

Maybe that's the problem...you depend on them too much. Your young and should have your own life...but then again I was a bit like that at 23....and relied on my mum a lot.
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soldierjane

Quote from: deniz on February 22, 2008, 04:34:21 AM
:embarrassed:

Well I would like to share sth with you, sth that makes me really insecure.
I am young,not a teenager but 23 is considered to be a young age of transition( actually i started a couple of years ago). My appearance is feminime, some of you know that i have a stealth relationship with a boy( i have posted it before).
My parents are very VERY understanding and support me financially. I have come out to my mother 1 year ago. With me father we have never discussed it openly but when we are together his friends ask him. Is this your daughter?? And he simply does not reply but midly laughs.(He pretends as if he heard nothing.and he says nothing to be. Anyway he never makes me feel uncomfortble. However, sometimes he tells me. When you go to the army(yes he is blind) your mind will clear and your depression will go away. My mother knows everything but she asks me not to mention to my father my ts status.Because to their eyes i am just a kid.and kids sometimes look as if they have not gender. But if i procceed with my transtition years will pass and i will be a woman and she doesn;t know if she and my father can handle that. However they want me to be happier because exactly happy you will never be my son(she said) since you have this disorder.
Their love is touching, but their minds are so wird. or am i wird my self? am i the wrong one?Should i leave them?what if i end up alone and miserable(because on terms of social life other than my bf, my parents are always there for me)

I would say that if you feel transition is for you, do it. Your parents say they don't know if they will be able to handle that but from what you say they seem to know which way the wind is blowing and my guess is if they love you they will get used to it eventually. Your da will probably be the hardest to convince, just be firm in expressing how you feel as letting go of the idea of his "son" will take time; I don't think it will destroy the relationship though. Probably your mother and father have been discussing this for a long time already and are leaning towards accepting you.
There's no reason why you should end up alone and miserable either, there's a whole world of people you can connect with who have shared similar experiences and can tell you things will be sometimes rough, but ok.

Be strong and fear not :)
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Sarah

You know, I'm 24.
I have similar issues with my parrents.
I am out to all of them (there are three with a stepmom)
And although my Mom accepts and my Dad does too, there are limits.
My Stepmom is very uncomfortable with it.
She hasn't talked to me, or been willing to, or returned my calls or answerd the phone when I call in about 4-5 months.
It gets complicated because I have a little Brother over there that is 9 and he apperently has been told now.
My Dad pays for my college tuition with the approval of my Stepmom as well, but the discomfort is a problem.
I am unsure about the funding as it is important as I go to a realy nice school.

I don't want to loose my funding by pissing them off.

There was a time when I accepted no help from them. I refused it.
But now it seems that their assistance with school may be worth putting up with the BS to be able to go.
It's a realy nice school.

I can probably put up with it for a few years.
But the thing that bothers me is that I don't know if it is stable.
My parrents have talked about divorce a few times and my Stepmom has some personal isssues she has been working out.

My Dad is completely non-confrontational so I can't realy on him to help back me up.
And my Stepmom is completely avoiding me.
My little brother hardly gets to speak to me, so I have no idea what he is thinking.
I want to talk to him about it.

You knoww Berliegh, it isn't always possible to cut our parrents out at this age.
I couldn't afford the college without their help.
I would if I could.

Deniz, I understand where you are coming from.
My guess would be that I would tell him.
Let him know.
It's better to get it over with sooner than later, as if there are some issues you can start on working them out earlier.
That's my thoughts Friend.
Good luck to us both.

Sara
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lady amarant

It's a LOT harder today for young adults to get started on their own - I read an article not too long ago about a new trend developing in the 20-something demographic of staying home until you get married/move in with a bf/gf, simply because it takes the combined income of both you and your partner to afford anything. Either that or live in a commune/flatshare and then go home every weekend to get your laundry done and make up for a week's worth of starvation.

Transition can only make this sort of thing way worse.

I'm 29, and I still talk to my mom every week. Granted, we're in different countries, but Skype likes me alot. I think I'm probably their best customer. (my folks don't have broadband, so I phone their landline ... ouch) Our relationship has kinda evolved into a friendship rather than a mother-daughter type thing (we've both made a conscious effort at this after a very bad patch in my very early 20's), and I discuss stuff with her that would make people's ears bleed. She does too. My dad is a different story, but we're working on it.

That said, I can entirely relate to what Deniz says. Like all the other people in my life that aren't trans, my folks just cannot relate - it's entirely foreign to them, and while they support me completely, they can be very oblivious at times. My Dad especially still has a very definite - "there are maybe other options to explore" in his mind. Which I understand - He's losing his first-born son, I suppose.

Don't be too quick to judge us younger bunch for not striking out on our own as readily as we'd like to. The economic and social realities of our time make it a different place to grow up in. It'll be the same type of situation when/if we have grown kids one day. Hopefully we can remember that the only constant in life is change.
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Sarah

Hopefully it won't be the same situation for the kids of our generation.
I hope we have things improved by then.
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deniz

well my mother told me sth really hard the other day
I shouldn;t have loved you so much. Because i am doomed. Everyone i love, dies soon(her father died when she was 10).And i loved my son very much.And although you are still  here and i love you still, sometimes it seems  my son died a long time ago:(and she was crying
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soldierjane

Quote from: deniz on February 23, 2008, 07:26:56 AM
well my mother told me sth really hard the other day
I shouldn;t have loved you so much. Because i am doomed. Everyone i love, dies soon(her father died when she was 10).And i loved my son very much.And although you are still  here and i love you still, sometimes it seems  my son died a long time ago:(and she was crying


Sorry to hear that, deniz. It's hard for others to understand what for us is so obvious: that the prior image was a forced charade, a survival guise. Let her grief for her "son", it's healthy that she's letting go for this will open the door to her accepting and loving you as you.

You're not alone.
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lady amarant

Quote from: deniz on February 23, 2008, 07:26:56 AM
well my mother told me sth really hard the other day
I shouldn;t have loved you so much. Because i am doomed. Everyone i love, dies soon(her father died when she was 10).And i loved my son very much.And although you are still  here and i love you still, sometimes it seems  my son died a long time ago:(and she was crying

Aw hon, I know that must have been really hard to hear. But there is hope in that statement too - that your mom is starting to accept you as you are now. Just give her time. There's denial, then grief, and finally acceptance. Sounds like your mom might ne moving towards that final stage.

Just be there for her in any way you can, because transition is as hard on our loved ones as on us, in many ways, and show her that, though she has lost a son, she has gained a beautiful and courageous daughter.
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Sarah

Quote from: deniz on February 23, 2008, 07:26:56 AM
well my mother told me sth really hard the other day
I shouldn;t have loved you so much. Because i am doomed. Everyone i love, dies soon(her father died when she was 10).And i loved my son very much.And although you are still  here and i love you still, sometimes it seems  my son died a long time ago:(and she was crying

Aww, I'm so sorry sweetie.
You have my hugs and love.
Sara

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