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Ok, time to jump into the pool!

Started by datachild, April 12, 2006, 04:38:42 PM

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datachild

Hello everyone! Well, I have read a lot of posts throughout these forums, and I have decided to introduce myself. Well, I actually do not even know where to begin, how about at the present and work my way to the past. Twist it up for all of you!

I am currently married and I have a child. I had never dated a girl before my wife. I never had an urge to either. I had just moved into this new town and found a new job and we ran into each other there. Before this I had been an exchange student to Japan and was wanting to return eagerly. So I just got a job anywhere to save some cash and head back with a bachelor's in hand to teach english there. Why? I don't know...Anyway, back to when we met. At first, it was just a new friend. A friend to show me around town, hang out with (I mean after all, I was all alone in this new area), and just talk to. Well, one day I was over at her place watching a movie and laying in her lap while she was running her fingers through my hair, when she made a move on me. I kind of just laid there, and that was the end of that. The next day we actually kissed. Why? Well, maybe because she was the first person to ever give me the attention and care that I never had before. So I tried it out, but first, I had let her know of a problem of mine.

After a long talk, she said she had deep feelings for me (of course she had been engaged and it was broken off, and she had like four boyfriends after that, and all this was just before me), and that she wanted to help me "get-over" it. So, I tried, and we had sex one time and poof! A kiddo was made *sob*. No sobbing actually, I really love my child, but the thing is, I never "got-over" the issue at hand. It is like an alcoholic that drinks to escape a problem, but the problem still isn't fixed. After two years of marriage, I came out and told her that I still was not happy.

Ever since I was little I had only friends that were female, I lived with only my mother and aunt. I was dragged to all of my mother's friends' homes and get-togethers. Was I somehow conditioned to think I was a female? I doubt it, because a person will reject what they feel is not right internally. Also, I liked being in these environments, I enjoyed this lifestyle, but I hated the anatomical differences that seperated me from my interests, friends, and feelings. I have just grown up hating my sex, my body disgusts me, not because I do not take care of it, but simply because of its appearance. My mother had told me once that during a sonogram they had declared I was female. Then, just to ensure I was ok, another was taken because my mother had been bitten by a brown recluse, but they said this time, "nope, this baby is male." I blame it on the spider!

Well, during my teenage years I did try to move on and over come my urge to change my associated gender polarization bestowed upon me from that spider. I would do all the macho male things, make myself feel and believe I was truly a male at heart. I played football...WHICH I HATED FOR THE LIFE OF ME! I could not stand being that rough and dirty, sheesh. I even joined the army after high school, which I got honorable discharged for my gender identity problem, they just said I had a personality problem that would hinder my proformance and bam! I was out. The army was crazy! What in the world was I trying to prove there, I am not this macho-crapo stuff. I like to sew and make new clothing designs. Which is why I have a major in Fashion Design.

Ok, back to the wife thing. She said I would have to leave when the time came to "transition". I would still be able to see my child, and we would still be friends, but our relationship (love) will cease to exist. Which is what hurts me the most, because I truly have feelings for her.  :'(

That is my life in a nutshell, or probably a pea shell/capsule, whatever.

P.S. Please hate on your own time. (Hehe, I love that saying. I use to work for this call center and some people would make deals while others did not get a single deal all day, but when a person did make a deal, we would all clap. Yet, some would not, and our floor manager would say, "Give 'em a round of applause, hate on your own time".  :D)
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HelenW

Datachild, what's to hate?

Welcome to Susan's.  This forum, as you may have aready realized, is a great place to discuss what we all are going through in one form or another.  I hope you'll get as much or more than I have, and I just love this place.

My wife has also told me that she will leave if I begin taking hormones.  Yet, as time has gone by and as knowledge has increased, she has shown flashes of support for my feelings so I still have hopes of staying together.  Your's may need some more time or information.  The self examination that she will have to go through will rival what you have already experienced and then some.  Of course, I have to recognize that many wives cannot make the change with us and that the unthinkable then needs to be paid in order to find fulfillment.  Only time will tell.  Calendar pages worth, unfortunately!

I'll be looking forward to reading more from you and learning about your points of view and am, again, happy to say Good Luck and

WELCOME!
helen
FKA: Emelye

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Sarah Louise

Welcome to Susan's, I'm sure you will find friends here.  Also there is a section for Spouses to chat with each other.

Not that all spouses want to, mine doesn't.  I finally gave up and hoping my wife would come around.  She will lock me out when I leave for surgery.  I'm already locked out of her bedroom.

Sarah
Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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datachild

Quote from: Sarah Louise on April 12, 2006, 05:07:20 PM
I'm already locked out of her bedroom.

Sarah

Yeah, she doesn't give me hugs anymore, nor does she feel comfortable being nude around me...I have never felt "loss" before. Like I had mentioned, she was my first "love", relationship, close friend, etc etc. So, I am taking this really hard since it is the first time ever.
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Robyn

Transition isn't easy, and many relationships don't survive it.  But some DO!  One key is to take your time in transition and to give your spouse/partner time to adjust.  Once we realize we must change, we want it to happen yesterday.  Hormones can make us teenagers again, and patience is yet to be developed in most pubescent teens.  Yet, we must try.

If the relationship doesn't look like it will survive, the next most important thing (IMHO) is to part in love. 

My ex tried to kill me, yet - in the end - we parted with love.  The nervousness she exhibits when we do see each other seems to come from her bad memories of having lost control and hurting me.  We will see each other a week from Sunday at the 100th birthday party of her deceased sister's husband.  Both of our children will be there, too.  First time all 4 of us will have been together in over 9 years.  I hope my husband will take lots of pictures.  :)

What might be helpful to you???  Well, turn the problem over to the Holy Spirit (or the Universe or other spirit you believe in).  Tell him that you don't know how to solve it.  Then - here's the hard part - be unattached to the outcome.  Spirit will solve the problem for the highest good of all.  How will you know the answer?  Listen for that still quiet voice.  For me, it's taht feeling in my gut that tells me the answer is right.

Best wishes, DataChild.

Robyn
When we walk to the edge of all the light we have and take the step into the darkness of the unknown, we must believe that one of two things will happen. There will be something solid for us to stand on or we will be taught to fly. — Patrick Overton
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stephanie_craxford

Hello there.

I don't know how I managed to miss your introduction, I must have been having a blond moment :)  Anyway welcome to Susan's.  You have no doubt explored Susan's and found your way around, and i hope that you enjoy your stay here and find the site to be useful and supportive.  Just remember that if you ever need help all you need do is ask.

Family is always a tricky problem when it comes to transitioning.  It would be great if they would just accept you for who and what you are and leave it at that but as you know it's just not that easy.  Some will have no problems and continue to be there no matter what but others will openly reject you, this includes spouse and children.

You indicated that you seem to have time before you plan to transition, and while there is lots to do in preparation for this it will also give you time to pursue this further with your wife.  I agree with Robyns comments that if you are to part company then it is best to do it as friends so that you can continue to be friends.  However if you truly wish to try and stay with her after transition then you can use the time to try and show her that while you will change on the outside you will still be the same person inside.  Be honest and upfront, and never shut her out of discussions and never discount her opinion(s).

For your relationship to survive transition will take the two of you and it will take a lot of work.  I almost lost my wife of 33 years but over the last 6 to 8 years we struggled through the tears and arguments and so far have succeeded in staying together.  Our relationship has changed, it is not the same as it used to be, but it is a relationship that we can live with and enjoy for the time being.  Although we are not intimate anymore and our sleeping arrangements have changed, we still love each other, and have agreed that until someone comes along who could make either of us happier we will stay together.

Some may think this is a strange arrangement and they may be right, but it's an arrangement that works for us and we are happy and still love each other.  So there are ways of helping relationships survive transition.  It just takes commitment, honesty, openness, courage, and and willingness to compromise and communicate.

Steph 
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