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Other GLBT calling you out?

Started by GQjoey, March 17, 2008, 04:51:47 AM

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GQjoey

I used to think I want just paranoid about this, but the older I've gotten and the more I've gone through it, Iv'e realized it's just discrimination within "our community".
I live above a "gay bar", which is pretty well known throughout this area. I don't frequent it too much, but when I do I notice nothing but glares, and stares from other, younger kids in the place. To be honest it really doesn't bother me, but I was wondering if any other guys go through this?
For instance, tonight, me and my girl go down there, to have a few drinks, dance and have a good time...The place is pretty packed with a younger crowd 30 and under, first we have a gay man come up to us and say "Are you two a couple", i reply yes, he says "wow...your just my type, and she has that slutty hot look! (meant to be a compliment) LOL. I laugh and say "whats ur type" he says "you know, the good looking guys, usually the best looking in the club, that always seem to have a vagina!". I thought this was funny, as he actually READ me as a guy, approached me as a guy, and UNDERSTOOD I was f2m (which doesn't seem to happen much at gay clubs). We all laughed, and went upon our night...

Me and my girl go hang out on the dance floor. There's a group of younger kids, 3 lesbians, 1 gay guy. For the next HOUR they are eyeballing us every other minute. I'm used to be stared at, but come on? We end up chilling at a table, having a drink, watching the videos on the big screen. This group is right to the side of us, and my gf says to me "Why do they keep whispering then looking at us" I tell her not to worry about it, not a big deal. For the next 10 mins, they're whispering in each others ears, looking at us then laughing. At this point I feel my anger boiling. Sure enough, the 3 girls walk past, the gay guy stops, does a little retarded dance and says you LADIES (nice and loud and clear) have a good night! Now usually, I'd just assume it was another drunk person at a club assuming I was  "butch", but this was BLATANT. If he would of stood around a second longer I would of corrected him, but really it was a waste of breath.
I'm so sick of feeling "outcasted" at gay clubs, one place I should feel comfortable at. To the point I want to just start punching these dudes in the face. I realize I'm ignorant for saying this, buts its ALWAYS gay men. What's the deal?
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Jay

I always have had the problem with Gay men and myself. Gay men butch or fem dont seem to like butch women. Not trying to say that everyone is like that because of course there not but that is the funny feeling that I get from them..

I dont feel comfortable in straight or gay clubs! I think it all depends on who you are with. To be honest.

I have had the "Is that a guy or a girl?" Thing a few times in straight clubs. Where as in gay clubs they just assume that you must be a butch lesbian.

Which as we know isn't the case! ;)

By the way GQJoey cool avatar!



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Autumn

I told a friend of a friend (self-proclaimed lesbian because it's easier than saying she's bi who's attracted to me but in a relationship with another guy) that I wasn't against being with a guy if it turned out that he was the right person for me because I'm more concerned with who a person is than what's between their legs, but that I've not met a guy that I'd want to be with.

A few days later I was late to class and some people wondered where I was. Someone who didn't know my name said that there seemed to be something odd about me.

My highly religious friend in the class told me that the girl in paragraph one told them I liked men.


::) and people ask why I don't run around screaming 'i'm biiiiiii look at me i'm biiiiiiiiiii'

I don't think it's a case of being called out, but I definitely think some people in 'the community' have an agenda.
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tekla

Once you get enough of them, gay bars are like any other bars, some good, others horrid.  As I read that there seems to be more of an age deal going on than a gay/straight/bi deal.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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trannyboy

I don't know about other people but I have been read at varying times and places in my transition by varying people. The only group that I have found that was able to read me was native people. I worked with a few native people doing street outreach and I was much more likely to get the initial miss before I corrected them and it was over. In fact strangely the only place I am still read is the native community and still even then only by a few. It has also never been hard to correct and move on without any repercussions. It seems that those I have met are knowledgeable enough to read me are also more accepting of gender then others. In terms of GLBTS etc I have found I am more likely to have a positive experience within the straight community then queer. In terms of queer I have more problems within the lesbian community then gay. On the other hand I have not been terribly active in the gay mens community and though I am attracted to men, I haven't spent much time in at purely gay clubs or gone looking for sex within the community per se.

I pass well though and I am not afraid to set people straight though.

->-bleeped-<-boy
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GQjoey

I pass 9 times out of 10, and have lived "legally" as a male since the age of 16, so haven't ran into too many problems there. I know that the older you get tho, and people ask how old you are, and you look 16-18 but are really 24 it turns heads, or makes people wonder why you don't have facial hair etc.
I think I am going to just start correcting people. It's like when I was younger 5-10 and I'd be with my mom shopping or just out, and people would refer to me as her son, at first she'd correct them, but then it got to the point she figured it was a waste of breath, and stopped. Iv'e kinda done the same thing. To be honest as long as its not coming out of someones mouth that KNOWS me, is friends of a friend etc, I really don't give two turds, cuz I more than likely will never see them again. And in the past when I have corrected people, I get sick of being asked ignorant ?'s and feeling like I need to justify myself to a stranger. Anyways, thanks for the replies!
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