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Hopkins research shows nature, not nurture, determines gender.

Started by sd, March 23, 2008, 03:56:09 PM

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sd

I was doing some gender research and came across an interesting paper...

Hopkins research shows nature, not nurture, determines gender.
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/press/2000/MAY/000512.HTM

QuoteThese studies suggest that male gender identity is directly related to normal male patterns of male hormone exposure in utero,

Interesting article, a bit old, but I could not find anything on here or anywhere else discussing it. It amazes me though that even Johns Hopkins says up to 1/3 of their staff will still try to make assumptions where the genitals are ambiguous and "correct them" according to this interview. In some cases it seems like they purposely made them incorrect just to see the results. My lack of faith in doctors continues to go downhill.

Other things I found were that doctors, while they understand gender is different from chromosomes and sex, they still bundle them as one. Regardless of consequences and still enforce the binary.

Which by the way is law, before you leave a hospital your sex must be determined as male or female.  >:(
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Emerald


Interesting info.... but this is the wrong forum for it.
Intersex Talk would be the appropriate forum.
Androgyne.
I am not Trans-masculine, I am not Trans-feminine.
I am not Bigender, Neutrois or Genderqueer.
I am neither Cisgender nor Transgender.
I am of the 'gender' which existed before the creation of the binary genders.
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Emerald

Quote from: sd on March 23, 2008, 04:48:37 PM
While the research was done on intersex, the whole gender issue still applies. If it was fresh news I could see putting in someplace else. This is several years old.

If a mod wants to move it they can, I stuck it here for discussion purposes, not because it is news worthy.

sd, it is my earnest desire to be of help to you.
Allow me to better explain...
This forum is Androgyne Talk, it exists primarily to provide information about Androgynes and their unique non-masculine non-feminine gender identity. The posted topic is not specific to Androgynes or their gender identity, but it is highly specific to the informational interests of Intersex individuals.

If what you seek is a lively discussion on the subject you have sourced, Transgender Talk is the community conversation forum area for open topics and invites opinions from all website members. Many Intersex and Transsexual members on this website have strong and varied opinions on the subject of gender nature vs gender nurture, but few of them read the Androgyne Talk forum.

There is also a General Discussions area with header:
"A place for non-transgender topics to be discussed. Please discuss transgender issue in the appropriate community discussion board for that topic. If there is another general discussion board where you're topic would better fit in please post it there IE: Music under Entertainment/Music. Any other subject is open game."

The interview link isn't working, btw.
I hope you find this helpful, sd!  :icon_bunch:
-Emerald  :icon_mrgreen:


Androgyne.
I am not Trans-masculine, I am not Trans-feminine.
I am not Bigender, Neutrois or Genderqueer.
I am neither Cisgender nor Transgender.
I am of the 'gender' which existed before the creation of the binary genders.
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Lutin

Are there any studies that show that angrogyny exists in the rest of the animal kingdom as well? Homo/bisexuality certainly does, and I know sex isn't the same as gender, but humans don't seem to be the only animals with gender-specific roles, so...I don't know, are there cases where female satin bowerbirds steal blue objects to attract mates, instead of the male birds, or anything? (It'd obviously be a bit hard to ask the animals, "do you feel like you conform to the gender binary, or do identify as something else?", but still...)

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Emerald


None that I know of, Lutin. I don't think we'll ever know unless they learn to talk. I tend to think of animals as psychologically androgynous and their behaviour as instinctive or hormonal... or a matter of individual personality. All of my pets seemed to be happier and more content after they were neutered.  :icon_wink:
Oh, you might be very interested to learn about freemartins!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemartin

-Emerald  :icon_mrgreen:

Androgyne.
I am not Trans-masculine, I am not Trans-feminine.
I am not Bigender, Neutrois or Genderqueer.
I am neither Cisgender nor Transgender.
I am of the 'gender' which existed before the creation of the binary genders.
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