A list of TS traits from my therapist

[rachel89]

1. We have a primarily cope with the condition by shutting down all emotions. Yes.

2. We have an inability to discuss deep feelings with others. Definitely

3. We are very insecure. Definitely.

4. We have very few, if any, close friends, prefers to spend time alone. Yes.

5. We exhibit extreme shyness at times. I was really, really shy and still am somewhat.

6. We have a hatred of (and inattention to) our appearance. Yes.

7. We avoid pictures and videos of ourselves. Yes, there's very few pre-transition photos of me other than pictures taken by family members.

8. We often have inattention to health issues. Yes.

9. We have extreme modesty about our sexuality and partial and full nudity. Yes.

10. We often take on dangerous jobs or activities. No, not really.

11. We often have well above average intelligence. I'm not sure, a lot of people say I'm intelligent, but I'm not really sure and sometimes think they are just saying things to be nice.

12. We immerse ourselves in activities or jobs that require intense concentration and highly technical vocations. Not really a job, but I have an intense interest in subjects like chemistry and microbiology and foreign languages.

13. We are extremely competitive or extremely non-competitive with no middle ground. I am actually very non-competitive.

14. We are very imaginative daydreamers. ?

15. We display self destructive behavior. Yes.

16. We possess a tolerance for others. Yes, it makes me stand out where I live.

17. We are anti-war and anti death penalty. Yes, this also makes me stand out where I live.

18. We have the need for more than usual privacy in our lives. Definitely, almost to the point of paranoia.

19. We are very unlikely to fight or have a physical confrontation. I don't look fights, but sometimes fights have come to me.

20. We gave deep seated hatred of authority. Definitely.

21. We have on and off battles with clinical depression. Apparently, yes, I was diagnosed in November.

22. We are easily able to place people by the sounds of their voice. Sometimes.

23. We are able to easily read peoples emotions. ?

24. We excel in reading and writing at an early age but have difficulty with mathematics. Wow, this describes me exactly. I learned to read at an unusually early age and read a lot, but have had difficulty with mathematics my entire life.

25. We often have suicidal thoughts, plans or attempts. I've been in some very dark places before.

[stephaniec]

all true for me except 2 of them   92%

[Deborah]

I fit the profile too except in these three things.

3. We are very insecure. Yes when it comes to trans related things but pretty much the opposite of insecure with everything else.

17. We are anti-war and anti death penalty. No, I'm not anti-war.  Maybe it's because my job once had me witness and document an event where 48 men were marched off and executed by their government.  Yes, sometimes evil is real and needs to be defeated.  I am anti death penalty but only because I don't fully trust our justice system to only convict the guilty.

24. We excel in reading and writing at an early age but have difficulty with mathematics. Yes, I excel in reading and writing but I also excel in math.


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[rachel89]

Despite having serious doubts about its validity as a diagnostic tool, I find it interesting that I have 19 affirmative responses, 5 ambiguous or unsure responses, and 1 negative response.

[LizK]

23 yes
2 No

Don't know what, if anything, it tells me that I don't already know LOL 

[WildPollyAppeared]

Wow, this is kinda an eye opener. Yes I'll take it with a grain or two of salt but still this is uncanny. Not sure anyone would want to read my answers but here they are.

We primarily cope with the condition by shutting down all emotions - That big check, the fact that I do that actually made me question myself
We have an inability to discuss deep feelings with others - Yupper
We are very insecure - That's a big 10-4
We have very few, if any, close friends, prefers to spend time alone - I only have 3 or 4 close friends and I only see 1 of them on a regular basis.
We exhibit extreme shyness at times - Yes'm
We have a hatred of (and inattention to) our appearance - Running out of synonyms for yes
We avoid pictures and videos of ourselves - Ohh ya seeing myself just makes me feel weird
We often have inattention to health issues - Ya doctors creep me out I often worry when I go there they'll tell me I'm dying or have some sort of disease
We have extreme modesty about our sexuality and partial and full nudity - I'm a total prude
We often take on dangerous jobs or activities - I work with explosives
We often have well above average intelligence - I like to think that I'm fairly bright
We immerse ourselves in activities or jobs that require intense concentration and highly technical vocations. - I'm an engineer
We are extremely competitive or extremely non-competitive with no middle ground - Video games, ya I get competitive. Everyday life not competitive at all.
We are very imaginative daydreamers - I day dream all the freaking time
We display self destructive behavior - I use to drink, like a lot
We possess a tolerance for others, very unlikely to be racist, homophobic etc. - Thats true
We are anti-war and anti death penalty - Not really, I'm not a fan of wars and the death penalty, but they are basically facts of life.
We have the need for more than usual privacy in our  lives - YES! I live alone and love it, when friends are over for a long time I start getting antsy.
We are very unlikely to fight or have a physical confrontation - Ya I've never been in a fist fight
We gave deep seated hatred of authority - To quote Pennywise (the band, not the clown) <Not Permitted> Authority
We have on and off battles with clinical depression - Never been diagnosed with depression but even though I try to be an optimist, I feel down sometimes.
We are easily able to place people by the sounds of their voice - Weird but true
We are able to easily read peoples emotions - I'll pay closer attention to this to see if thats true
We excel in reading and writing at an early age but have difficulty with mathematics - Not really, I've always been good at math as far as I know
We often have suicidal thoughts, plans or attempts - Disagree on this one too, I'm terrified of death in general.

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[sparrow]

We excel in reading and writing at an early age but have difficulty with mathematics

That notion can <not allowed> itself to death and go to <not allowed>.

[Martine A.]

We excel in reading and writing at an early age but have difficulty with mathematics

That notion can <not allowed> itself to death and go to <not allowed>.

Omg is that coming from that lame CoGIaTI test, when transwomen had to answer the questions 'right' or else told they are not trans? Middle age of the 20th century.

[ChasingAlice]

All the answers that were no for me. 
8 10 11 14 17 20 22 23 24

This is a horrible test.

[Wednesday]

That notion can <not allowed> itself to death and go to <not allowed>.


Omg is that coming from that lame CoGIaTI test, when transwomen had to answer the questions 'right' or else told they are not trans? Middle age of the 20th century.

Nailed it like totally. Even most contemporary women would fail that test, so stereotypical...

[Wednesday]

Lemme rant a little

1. We have a primarily cope with the condition by shutting down all emotions - Sounds like a common strategy.
2. We have an inability to discuss deep feelings with others - This one sounds interesting. Works for me.
3. We are very insecure - Looks logical regarding a condition considered as a social stigma.
4. We have very few, if any, close friends, prefers to spend time alone - Insecurity related?
5. We exhibit extreme shyness at times - Again insecure related.
6. We have a hatred of (and inattention to) our appearance - Obvious.
7. We avoid pictures and videos of ourselves - Totally obvious again.
8. We often have inattention to health issues - Interesting one. Worked for me too.
9. We have extreme modesty about our sexuality and partial and full nudity - And another obvious one.
10. We often take on dangerous jobs or activities - Interesting but maybe kind of logical. Also worked.
11. We often have well above average intelligence - Very interesting one, anyway I'm just 2 standard deviations above, so not "well above" at all. Not working for me.
12. We immerse ourselves in activities or jobs that require intense concentration and highly technical vocations - Common coping strategy again.
13. We are extremely competitive or extremely non-competitive with no middle ground - This one can be interesting too. Worked for me.
14. We are very imaginative daydreamers - Before transitioning I was. Nowadays I'm not.
15. We display self destructive behavior - Obvious.
16. We possess a tolerance for others - Lol, this should be one of the most logical and obvious ones, but sadly it's not. We still have plenty of close-minded people in our community (see "not trans enough", "trans hierarchy", etc).
17. We are anti-war and anti death penalty - Very conditioned to ideological background. Can't see a point.
18. We have the need for more than usual privacy in our lives - Obvious one. Stigma related.
19. We are very unlikely to fight or have a physical confrontation - Insecurity related.
20. We gave deep seated hatred of authority - Interesting one. I have.
21. We have on and off battles with clinical depression - Obvious one here.
22. We are easily able to place people by the sounds of their voice - Interesting one. It's HRT effect too.
23. We are able to easily read peoples emotions. - Interesting one. I wasn't but this vastly improved after HRT.
24. We excel in reading and writing at an early age but have difficulty with mathematics - Interesting one again. I must detail I grasped basic arithmetic also before school. My personal difficulties with math were mostly calculation issues. Math was always to me easy to understand, easy to abstract but hard to perform.
25. We often have suicidal thoughts, plans or attempts - Really obvious one.

[Naomi71]

20 yes, 5 no.

[Jamie_06]

Uncertain about a few of these, but I'm "yes" for about 2/3 of the statements.

[Ⓥ]

Oooh, oooh, I want to play!

...but my question is:  is this pre-transition generalities or what?

Honestly, my agreement/disagreement with a lot of these "traits" are very much dependent upon when they are applicable.

[KyleeKrow]

Except for a couple, that pretty much pegs me.

[Missy D]

I don't identify with the test at all lol  I'm a social butterfly who can't stand to be alone, sees her friends at least once a week, if not twice or three times and loves working in a customer service job in an open plan office. Ideally it would be HR, but I need to get a little bit more experience first. I do daydream though. And I wouldn't know one of a screwdriver from the other. I'm just not practical.

But the test does seem to be a little bit stereotyped to me. Sort of in a different way to the normal sexist stereotyping, although there's a common theme. I read it as being formed around the notion that transsexualism and autism spectrum disorders are somehow linked. I could be wrong, but the average autistic person is going to answer yes to quite a few of the points to do with socialisation regardless of their sex or gender identity.

I'm totally not autistic, so large parts of it are completely irrelevant on planet Missy. I am a transsexual, but I don't think that's going to be a the cause of not having many friends or preferring to be alone. Lots of it seems similar to autism tests I've looked at in the past.  My Mum is really experienced in this area and has told me loads about diagnosis so I've got some sort of second-hand insight into it  Although I'm in no way qualified so this is just my opinion as usual lol!!!

So to me it reads like, if you're autistic or have spectrum traits, then you'll answer yes to lots of it. If you're not then it's not going to mean much. I don't know why this link came about as a thing, I've just heard that it is a thing!!

Also I'm the reverse on the authority scale too - I don't honestly mind it if it's got a good heart and is working towards a better society.

[Deborah]

I always wondered if I was a little autistic.  The thing is, while I don't particularly enjoy it and it always feels awkward I can engage in social situations pretty seamlessly.  I also don't have any real problems speaking in front of groups anymore.


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