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When did you realise you were the opposite gender?

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When did you realise you were the opposite gender?

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Victoria L.

It's hard for me to say. Before I was 14 I didn't even know what a "transsexual" was... However I first got the feelings around 9 or 10 when I really felt like I wanted to be doing things that the other girls were, and I (this is weird, I know.) really wanted to go through their changes in puberty instead.

However, before that point (most of which I can't even remember. >_<) I did really like doing typical girl stuff... Like playing with a dollhouse. My grandparents bought me a log cabin (which was supposed to be a "boy's dollhouse". -_-) and I loved playing with it, but I also really liked playing with my little cousin's dollhouse and also I really wanted to play with my sister's but it was up in the attic. I remember looking at it and thinking "I want that!"

But yeah, it was 14 when I really started considering I was transgendered and really a female on the inside. I believe that was also the year I first came out to my mom.

However, I do have to say the feelings were very prominent back when I was in the fifth grade. I remember shopping with my sister and mom... I was sitting outside the dressing room waiting for them or something like that and I was really hurting inside because I really wanted to be wearing the clothes they go to. Ever since I have always secretly ran to the girl's department and looked at the clothes there while my family was elsewhere. I do it more these days... but I still can't have any of it, so it hurts me.
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Lutin

QuoteWhen did you realise you were the opposite gender?

Hmmm... When I first *consciously* started thinking (as opposed to playing around and not caring) that I would prefer to be a boy, it was somewhere around the age of eleven or twelve (though I distinctly remember - hence the scarily-appropriate "When other little girls wanted to be ballet dancers, I kind of wanted to be a vampire" - thinking it would be wonderful to wake up in the morning as a male vampire when I was about nine). However, the lightbulb first went ***PING!!! TRANSGENDER!!!*** in January, a couple of months before my 21st. So I didn't vote, sorry, just 'cause I wasn't sure which one to vote for, my thoughts in childhood, or my "PING" moment.

I also realized I was bisexual somewhere around seventeen, so that sort of complicated things ('cause at that point I didn't know that gender and sexuality were different).

Lutin
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Blanche

6 years old.  It was then when I also realised the coming decades would turn out to be horrid.
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JENNIFER

QuoteHowever, I do have to say the feelings were very prominent back when I was in the fifth grade. I remember shopping with my sister and mom... I was sitting outside the dressing room waiting for them or something like that and I was really hurting inside because I really wanted to be wearing the clothes they go to. Ever since I have always secretly ran to the girl's department and looked at the clothes there while my family was elsewhere. I do it more these days... but I still can't have any of it, so it hurts me.

Hello Victoria,  you describe exactly how things were when I was in early teens.  I had   a very rough time with my parents because they could not deal with a placid and feminine thinking son whilst his younger brother was getting into all kinds of trouble.  It came to a head when I was taken to be kitted out for a school uniform at a specialist store.  My brother was an easy kid to deal with, he accepted anything that was given to him withouyt even a thought because he wanted to get back to his ActionMan toys, Tonka trucks etc.  Whilst he was being dealt with, I had wondered off into the girls section where I longed to be able to wear the lovely soft blouses and the most amazing looking pleated skirts.  It just felt so very natural and normal for me to want to be like all the other girls at school......my father found me 'fondling and placing a skirt across my front body ' to see how it might look on me and he completely lost it, and I got hell from him and my mother when we got back home.

The outcome was that I didnt get a new set of school clothes like my brother and the other boys at school found out why and made my life unbearable.   I knew at that time I needed to find a way to express myself and eventually I escaped the clutches of the family ( I ran away ) and found my own way in life.

Victoria?  I do not know much of you or of your background or circumstances tonight but do not despair, your time shall come. It took me 30 years to finally be able to live my life as me, Jennifer, a woman.  Okay, I have major challenges with my facial looks, the way I walk due to stroke disability and other things like voice and excess body hair but tonight, I was at work at the theatre ( unpaid volunteer ) wearing formal clothes expected of a female of my age ( skirt, blouse and sensible shoes etc ), I am used to it now and it felt so normal I wonder if my previous male life ever occured  ;) and my co-workers treat me in a way the defies any suggestion that I am 'that ->-bleeped-<-'  :)   
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Suzy

That is a really hard question.  When I look back, I knew at a very early age.  However, admitting it to myself was another thing.

I had no sisters, but remember looking so longingly at the things my mother had and wishing I could have those instead of the boring stuff I had.  I'm not proud of a lot of what I did back then, and I had no idea why I was doing it.  I would steal an item of girl clothing here and there when I could, to try on and keep, just for my special times.  I was a good sneak and never got caught.  But those are some of my earliest memories, wondering why I felt I needed to do that.  I didn't play with dolls, there were none around.  But I usually played alone.  My games were in my mind.  By the time Kindergarten came around I knew something was amiss.  I was very small compared to all of the other boys.  I cried a lot.  I got teased unmercifully.  All I knew is that I envied the girls.  They could cry and not feel bad about it.  Why not me?  It was not fair.  I knew I didn't fit in anywhere.  I was beaten up a lot by the other kids.  Many years of breaking free, then purging, then denial, ensued, and then the cycle would start all over again.  The big unexpected thing happened when I had a near fatal illness.  Upon recovery I realized that there was a huge part of me, a true part of me that almost never got a chance to live.  I opened the box and peeked inside.  I never want to shut it back.

Kristi
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Valentina

Always knew but I hadn't the words to express it until my I was ten.
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Butterfly

I can't remember thinking that I was anything else but a girl but as a child I never understood what those feelings were because I was told by the media, peers and everyone else that I was supposed to be a boy.







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Shana A

I always knew that I didn't relate to being a boy, but didn't have the words to express it as a young child. I  came out as transgender in my mid 30s.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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TheBattler

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Sister Seagull

It's interesting the number of people who said they first really "knew" by age 4.  In fact, I clicked on this thread expecting - maybe kind of hoping - to see just exactly that.  I was also about 4... and that's when the confusion *really* started.  Makes me feel a little less alone, but there must be something significant about that age.
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Alyssa M.

Quote from: Sister Seagull on May 22, 2008, 11:41:35 PMthere must be something significant about that age.

Indeed. That is when children start to get an understanding of what gender is. Before that I thought gender was just an arbitrary distinction like hair, eye, or skin color. For some reason I never heard anyone say, "All right, children, everyone with straight hair line up on the left, and everyone with curly hair line up on the right!" No. Always boys this and girls that.

bastards.
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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Laura91

I was 4 but I did not read about TSism until I was 11. Once I read about that I was relieved that there was something that could be done to correct this defect. I did not start doing anything to actually correct it until I was 30, mainly because I had no idea HOW to start the process.
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Melissa

Heh, talk about a loaded question.  I'm the gender that I am, not the opposite gender. ;D
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Sister Seagull

Quote from: Alyssa M. on May 23, 2008, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: Sister Seagull on May 22, 2008, 11:41:35 PMthere must be something significant about that age.

Indeed. That is when children start to get an understanding of what gender is. Before that I thought gender was just an arbitrary distinction like hair, eye, or skin color. For some reason I never heard anyone say, "All right, children, everyone with straight hair line up on the left, and everyone with curly hair line up on the right!" No. Always boys this and girls that.

bastards.

Well, yes that's true.  But I was thinking more along biological terms.  I wonder if there's a sort of "hormone surge" or something that occurs around that time, or some other change in the body/mind.
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JENNIFER

QuoteI wonder if there's a sort of "hormone surge" or something that occurs around that time, or some other change in the body/mind.

I am aware that hormones are converted in some way,  testosterone into oestrogens, naturally.  We are also unique as individual human beings with our own special chemistry.

All I can venture to suggest is that we are just born with our true gender and that genital indicators are not the way to assign gender at birth.  I much rather to believe that our gender is chosen for us prior to birth and that our physical appearence, that the medics use to determine us when born, is superficial. Why else do we have thousands among us with gender identity issues?

All that I now understand of my own situation is that I have never felt more comfortable in my current life as a female even with all of the hostilies that i endure daily.  I believe in my identity as a woman in a way that never occured during my dark days as a male.

i believe that I knew I was female before my birth, the feelings are just too strong to be anything but..... :)
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Lokaeign

I haven't answered the poll because I'm not the "opposite" gender, I'm betwixt and between.  But I knew something was up from a very young age.  A classic moment, at age 3 or 4, was when I cut my chin open trying to shave with my Dad's razor.  And then went around referring to the sticking-plaster as my "beard," thoroughly weirding out all the other kids at my playgroup...
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louise000

In a nutshell: Girl next door was my playmate from age 3 or 4. Loved playing with her. Wanted to be able to wear skirts and dresses like her. As she got older wanted to go to Girls' Life Brigade (similar to Girl Guides) with her but not allowed. Could not relate to boys, got bullied and tortured by them. By the time I went to 'big school' I was considered an oddity by teachers and pupils and called names such as sissy and pansy. Wished with all my heart I had been born a girl. That's when I knew I wasn't really a boy.
(By the time I was sixteen I was fighting these feelings and trying extra hard to be a man - but that's another story).
Louise
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Hypatia

In retrospect my memories are crystal clear that I always felt I needed to be one of the girls. Going back to my earliest awareness of gender differences when I began preschool at the age of 4. Before that, my sister and I had been raised pretty much the same, and while I knew of the anatomical difference, since we bathed together, I never knew there was supposed to be a gender difference until school sorted out boys and girls into two groups, and right away I instinctively felt I belonged among the girls. I loathed and detested the expectations placed on me to be a boy. But I could never say anything about it. I became silenced. My parents would turn a deaf ear to my gender issues then just as they do now, and their inflexible position has always been that I must conform to what's expected of me, end of story.

I was silenced in a way I've now come to understand is a common experience of oppression for girls in a patriarchal power structure, as it is for queers in a heterosexualist power structure. The powerless are silenced. There is a study of this in the book Women's Ways of Knowing.

Very early in life I learned that I could not do anything about my miserable situation, and what's worse--what horrifies me to see clearly now--I internalized the oppression. I formed the habit of thinking that even though I loathed maleness, there was nothing I could do about it. In fact, at school I learned that failure to demonstrate sufficient masculinity would get me regularly bullied and beaten up. I was a scared little kid in a hostile world, with no support from parents and other authority figures, whose only answer was that I had to become more masculine. I was a shy, retiring type and did not find it within me to rebel and assert my gender needs. So I knuckled under, and went along to get along.

That's how I grew up with the habit of burying and re-burying my innate femaleness every time it came up over the years, and went on trying to live as male even if it killed me. For many years, at least since I was 20 years old, I was consciously aware that I should have been a woman, although I was afraid of transsexualism which seemed too radical and scary. It wasn't until I was 45 that I got up enough gumption to come out and explicitly say I'm trans, I am woman.

So I can't really fix a single age for when I "realized" I was a girl. It depends on the definition of "realize." I wasn't able to articulate it when young, though I have all these cross-gender memories. It was always there, but it had to emerge from deep dark depths of repression, denial, and fear, which took many years before I could consciously own up to the full meaning of it. It will take a lot of healing from all the damage done to me since early childhood. Fortunately I've transitioned and healing is underway.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Carolyn

Roughly Speaking, age 5. I didn't know what it was exactly but I knew something was different, always sensed it. Knew something just wasn't right. But like a fool I surpassed it. Over time I learned how to act like a male but it wasn't my real self. I pieced together the the male Identy from things like Rambo, Video Game Charecters Like Guile From Street Fighter, ect. And it worked in fooling everyone around me for the most part. My closest friends where the only ones who saw the real me, but even they didn't see the real me until recently. All I can really say about my life before saying something and taking the first step to my freedom is this: Hell hath no fury
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