The Unconventional Transsexual

[Nero]

effeminate?

NO

[Pica Pica]

just yanking yer chain.

[joannatsf]

What exactly is a conventional transsexual?

What's troubling to me is when therapists try to define that, and judge someone's "readiness" based on their personal expectations of what a "conventional transsexual" is or should be doing.

~Kate~

I don't think any of my role models would be called conventional women.  Hillary Clinton is one of them; Susan Faludi is another; Margaret Sanger the First Wave feminists.  All are women who broke convention and advanced the role of women in society.

I also like some bad girls.  Margaret of Anjou, Queen of England and Scotland,  Lucretia Borge and even La Monica hold a fascination for me.  Women who used their sexuality to gain power in a world dominated by men.


If a conventional woman stays at home and cooks for her husband, I want no part of it.  Even though I love to cook!

[Kate]

How many of us don't fit the traditional mold of what a transsexual is?

In reading the stories here both recently and over the years, I really wonder if I am transsexual after all...

I mean come on, I didn't crossdress or even notice clothes as a child, I didn't play with girly things or want to really, I wasn't effeminate, I didn't play with makeup, I didn't crossdress for therapy sessions or group meetings (until long into HRT when I was living that way)... I was pretty much a boy until HRT made that difficult, lol.

And I was never really into the whole " I AM a girl" thing, where people have a "gender identity" independent of everything else. I was just me, whatever me is.

I DID always know I had to be a girl. But I have no idea WHY. I can't point to behaviour or anything else as "evidence" for it. I almost wish I could figure it out with 2 + 2 = girl and "know" who I am, but I can't. I don't even have an equation. Just this completely unfounded, unjustified NEED to be female at any cost, at any risk.

No wonder I couldn't get an HRT letter for almost a year, lol...

~Kate~

[Just Mandy]

In reading the stories here both recently and over the years, I really wonder if I am transsexual after all...

I mean come on, I didn't crossdress or even notice clothes as a child, I didn't play with girly things or want to really, I wasn't effeminate, I didn't play with makeup, I didn't crossdress for therapy sessions or group meetings (until long into HRT when I was living that way)... I was pretty much a boy until HRT made that difficult, lol.

And I was never really into the whole " I AM a girl" thing, where people have a "gender identity" independent of everything else. I was just me, whatever me is.

I DID always know I had to be a girl. But I have no idea WHY. I can't point to behaviour or anything else as "evidence" for it. I almost wish I could figure it out with 2 + 2 = girl and "know" who I am, but I can't. I don't even have an equation. Just this completely unfounded, unjustified NEED to be female at any cost, at any risk.

No wonder I couldn't get an HRT letter for almost a year, lol... Wink

~Kate~

OMG don't start that for me again.... am I a transsexual after all?

Noooooooo!   LOL...

Let's see.... did not crossdress check, it was never about clothes for me, I did love to wear makeup
clothes... yes, did that, or at least my sister had fun with me being her doll... I kinda liked it... ok I REALLY liked it
girly things.... um no, not really
was not effeminate... check
had male hobbies, still do, don't want to give them up

But I saw things as female, I had female emotions, I related to female problems. The list goes on, but like
you Kate, I never demonstrated it in action, only in personality, emotions and internally.

So am I a transsexual after all? Humm... you know... I don't think I care anymore, this feels so right it's what
I am and what I will be. You just know.... ya know?

Amanda

[Pica Pica]

a bit sissy 

[Alyssa M.]

One of my favorite unconventional non-TS women says:

squint your eyes and look closer
I'm not between you and your ambition
I am a poster girl with no poster
I am thirty-two flavors and then some
and I'm beyond your peripheral vision
so you might want to turn your head
cause someday you're going to get hungry
and eat most of the words you just said

and god help you if you are an ugly girl
course too pretty is also your doom
cause everyone harbors a secret hatred
for the prettiest girl in the room
and god help you if you are a pheonix
and you dare to rise up from the ash
a thousand eyes will smolder with jealousy
while you are just flying back

I'm not sure what I can add to that.

[Nero]

a bit sissy 

What did you say to me?

[Pica Pica]

nothing i particularly meant.

[Nero]

oh?

Posted on: April 09, 2008, 06:41:19 PMyou picking on me, ginger?

[Pica Pica]

i'm pretending to.

[Nero]

 

[Pica Pica]

 

[Nero]

 

[Pica Pica]

 

[Nero]

 

[Pica Pica]

okay, No more poking I implore thee.

[Nero]

awww. haven't even gotten started poking yet.  >

[Alex]

I don't really know what a conventional MtF would be.  How different is a conventional MtF to a conventional girl?  Ok I know I'm not a transsexual (just a potential) but there are a lot of things about me that aren't conventional for a girl and for all I know they're quite common for an MtF.

I already mentioned that I'm into games programming and somebody else on here already said they were too which I actually find comforting :p  (It might be comforting for her to know that in 2 years of working in the industry I've worked with 2 female coders.  Also 1 gay designer, 1 gay coder and a lesbian QA assistant)  Also I recently read a few articles by a female games designer called Danielle Bunten Berry whose articles about game design I thought to be really intelligent and unusually 'mechanical' for a female game designer.  I later discovered she used to be male.

Amazingly though it turns out there are a hell of a lot of known MtF game designers out there!

So perhaps your conventional MtF is a video games designer!  :p  And everyone knows girls don't play videogames*, right...? 

*Note: not true

[Annwyn]

Nero is a conventional FtM.  In fact, all therapists should be petitioned to use him as an example to compare others to:-)