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Started by kristie, June 19, 2006, 10:58:21 PM

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kristie

I go by Kristie.  I have known since I was a child that I was born with the wrong body, I use to pray for God to transform me into a girl when i was quite young, even prior to puberty.  I've had the usual, or perhaps not, mental and emotional, and sometimes, physical abuse by others throughout my whole life, "sissy"..."->-bleeped-<-got"... you know the names they use.  I remember when I was about 11 at the beach, wearing a bathing suit and no top, my syrophome surfbaord was caught by the wind on the beach and a woman no more than ten feet from me said:  "Little girl your surfboard's blowing away."  As an adult, I figured I was "gay" so I have lived most of my adult life as a gay male, however, I have never gotten very sexually stimulated being with a gay man, and have never had an orgasm with one.  I can watch gay porno all day long and it does nothing for me.  Hetero Porno, stimulates me, because I can place myself in the role of the woman who stimulates a straight male.  Since puberty, when i became sexually "active", I spent night after night fantisizing that I was being made love to by a fellow classmate or even a teacher, and i visualized having breasts and a vagina, the stimulation of my penis was simply a means to an end, feeling sexual release and satisfaction as being made love to as if i were a woman. 

It's also strange that as an adult, even now, I can go into a jiffy mart or at a restaurant with a baseball cap on and three days growth of beard and am looked right in the face and habitually referred to as "ma'am."  This is with trying my best NOT to appear as a woman, perhaps it's something in my eyes or the way i hold myself. 

I have no doubts that I am a woman in mind and heart and soul and am just now cautiously considering gender reassignment.  I've read the information here about HRT, and was a bit alarmed by the possible physical/emotional side effects of HRT, such as blood clots.  It would be more helpful to know an actual percentage rate of such accurances.  .2%  of blood clots forming is much less frightening than 5.0% of such a thing occuring. 

I'd like to ask, for anyone interested, if they have any idea the frequency of such side effects of HRT happening, is it influenced by age? or smoker/non-smoker?...etc.  I have been seeing a regular psychotherapist for three years now, and was actually a psychotherpist myself for twelve years, holding a master's degree in clinical psychology.  However, three years ago I developed Panic  Disorder which runs through my paternal grandmother's family, almost always effecting the females, such as my grandmother's sister, who was agorophobic actually along with her panic disorder.  I am on SSDI currently, living with my parents, I"m 46 years young.  People are always shocked when i tell them my age, they think i may be in my mid-thirties or so.  I have never felt like a "man" in my whole life, always a female. 

At this point, I'm considering going ahead with removal of my facial hair, at least i might not ever have to shave again.  And also perhaps buying and wearing some women's clothing like panties, socks, shoes, jewelry, etc. and possibly just a touch of makeup and clear nail polish...things like that.  I don't have a lot of money, although I do have Medicare/Medicade.  I have a beautiful head of thick black hair and usually keep a sort of uni-sex hairstyle, medium long.

If I begin this journey, I want to take it to it's complete end, meaning gender reassignment surgery, which of course is costly.  Also, if anyone has any thoughts concerning oral vs. injectable HRT.  I know the oral is metabolized by the liver, which I would imagine is not a good thing over the course of a lifetime.  And by the way, since I was a kid, I was not overweight, but I always have had a layer of fatty tissue I imagine in my breasts.  There's no incidence of breast cancer in either side of my family, so I suppose I"m not too concerned about that. 

I think I would be able to, over time, acquire the monies for gender reassignment surgery...I'm not particularly interested in HRT and stopping there.  But I find myself flip-flopping back and forth, not as to whether I'm a woman or not,, I know that I am, but whether or not the possible side effects of HRT are ubiquitous enough to be of a real concern.  Anyone who can address this issue please do so.  I'm a person who needs to know all the pros and cons of something before I make a final decision.  I also, just as a side-line, am interested in folk like us and how they managed through life PRIOR to there being the possibility of changing their gender.  To find the journal of such a person from a hundred or longer years ago would be such a valuable thing to have. 

I'm sure that an endocrinologist (sp?) could answer most of these questions, but I'd rather hear it from the ones who have actually had HRT and how you thought about the risks involved and how you went ahead full-steam in spite of them.  I welcome any dialogue re anything I've discussed, some sisterly support wouldn't hurt either.  Thanks for your time and in advance I thank those who respond to this post and their help.  Kristie
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Melissa

Let me be the first to welcome you to Susan's Kristie.

Well, there will always be risks and I don't know what the statistics are, but a couple of things my doctor recommended was to not smoke and to take daily aspirin to counteract the thickening of the blood.  As for the orals vs. injectibles, there are advantages to both.  With the orals, you can take ones which is subligually dissolved onder the tongue and they are pretty constant in how you feel day to day, since they are taken daily.  Orals are supposed to tield better results since they go directly into the bloodstream, but with cycles, the last few days, you can feel like you are PMSing.  Like you said, the details really should be discussed with your endoc.

I really can't give you more details than that because the rules here state that you can't discuss dosages.

Melissa
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umop ap!sdn

Welcome, Kristie! :)

Quote from: kristie on June 19, 2006, 10:58:21 PMHetero Porno, stimulates me, because I can place myself in the role of the woman who stimulates a straight male. 
Cool so I'm not the only one! ;D

QuoteAt this point, I'm considering going ahead with removal of my facial hair, at least i might not ever have to shave again.
Offering personal experience, I decided early on - before figuring out whether transition is right for me - that I would like to be rid of facial hair, because I intended never to grow a beard and even if I were to live life as a guy I would prefer to avoid the hassle of shaving. As soon as I got the chance to have it taken care of, I jumped on it, and so far my results have been so great that by now I can't even imagine anymore what it was like when at the end of the day the side of my face used to feel like sandpaper. :D

YMMV of course, but I wanted to share my reasoning. :)
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stephanie_craxford

Quote from: kristie on June 19, 2006, 10:58:21 PM
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I have no doubts that I am a woman in mind and heart and soul and am just now cautiously considering gender reassignment.  I've read the information here about HRT, and was a bit alarmed by the possible physical/emotional side effects of HRT, such as blood clots.  It would be more helpful to know an actual percentage rate of such accurances.  .2%  of blood clots forming is much less frightening than 5.0% of such a thing occuring.

Hello Kristie.

Welcome to Susan's.  Your story rings true for many of the members here, so your can rest assured that you are indeed among friends.  Please take advantage of us especially the Wiki where you may find answers to many of your questions.  As you may or may not know we also have a Chat area, and a huge links section along with the Forums.  So you can relax and enjoy your stay.

QuoteI'd like to ask, for anyone interested, if they have any idea the frequency of such side effects of HRT happening, is it influenced by age? or smoker/non-smoker?...etc.  I have been seeing a regular psychotherapist for three years now, and was actually a psychotherpist myself for twelve years, holding a master's degree in clinical psychology.  However, three years ago I developed Panic  Disorder which runs through my paternal grandmother's family, almost always effecting the females, such as my grandmother's sister, who was agorophobic actually along with her panic disorder.  I am on SSDI currently, living with my parents, I"m 46 years young.  People are always shocked when i tell them my age, they think i may be in my mid-thirties or so.  I have never felt like a "man" in my whole life, always a female.

While none of us are Medical Drs. as you stated we do have our experiences to relate, which you may or may not find helpful.  I myself have not seen any stats on the incidence of the dangers associated with HRT occurring in MtF TS, however, although men and women metabolize drugs a little differently the frequency is often based on the occurrence in natal women.  Of course this incidence will depend on each individual and if they are at risk to start with.  Those who have high cholesterol, high blood pressure, are over weight etc... would be at far greater risk than those who do not.  To add to this as MtF develop breasts and breast tissue increases, so does the risk of developing breast cancer.  So depending on who you talk to some would say that the cure is worth the risk.  Remember I think it was in the U.S.A. that HRT for women has fallen out of grace as the incidence of complications due to its use.  As far as the emotional side effects, many report that they start to feel calmer more at ease with themselves, and things like that, but there is no clinical evidence to support these feelings, many feel that these feelings are generated by the euphoria that the journey has finally started.  Personally, I didn't experience these feelings to any great degree.

QuoteAt this point, I'm considering going ahead with removal of my facial hair, at least i might not ever have to shave again.  And also perhaps buying and wearing some women's clothing like panties, socks, shoes, jewelry, etc. and possibly just a touch of makeup and clear nail polish...things like that.  I don't have a lot of money, although I do have Medicare/Medicade.  I have a beautiful head of thick black hair and usually keep a sort of uni-sex hairstyle, medium long.

A head of thick black hair, you are going to make some here jealous :)  But things such as hair removal, clothing, makeup and such can be started and stopped virtually risk free, and the only real restriction to them is how much money you are willing to spend, and of course you may attract some attention with nail polish, however many men get manicures these days.

QuoteIf I begin this journey, I want to take it to it's complete end, meaning gender reassignment surgery, which of course is costly.  Also, if anyone has any thoughts concerning oral vs. injectable HRT.  I know the oral is metabolized by the liver, which I would imagine is not a good thing over the course of a lifetime.  And by the way, since I was a kid, I was not overweight, but I always have had a layer of fatty tissue I imagine in my breasts.  There's no incidence of breast cancer in either side of my family, so I suppose I"m not too concerned about that.

Injectables is the safer way to go if you can afford them as they can be more expensive.  But on the plus side they do not anywhere near as much stress on the liver as orals do, sublinguals put less stress and orals stress the liver the most.  Depending on your location the availability of HRT in each of these forms will vary, and some are only manufactured in the oral form.

Quote...  But I find myself flip-flopping back and forth, not as to whether I'm a woman or not,, I know that I am, but whether or not the possible side effects of HRT are ubiquitous enough to be of a real concern.  Anyone who can address this issue please do so.  I'm a person who needs to know all the pros and cons of something before I make a final decision.  I also, just as a side-line, am interested in folk like us and how they managed through life PRIOR to there being the possibility of changing their gender.  To find the journal of such a person from a hundred or longer years ago would be such a valuable thing to have.

Any medications that we take are a concern, just as you wouldn't start taking any drug without a doctors check up and approval.  HRT is no different.  If you are in reasonably good health, then the risks would be minimal, however you should have regular check ups to monitor your health.  Speaking from my own experience, I'm in excellent physical shape, no health complications and my recent breast exam was clear.

Well I hope I've managed to shed a little light on this and that I've given at least a little of what you were looking for, but as you mentioned competent medical advice is the best route to go.  You can find more detailed information in our Wiki just enter HRT in the search box.

Well again welcome to Susan's, I'm sure we'll chat later.

Steph 
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Chynna

Hi Kristie,

If it helps any I take both orals and injectables hormones
(along with 7-9 other medications on a daily basis)
The only side effects that I have had besides at times being overly emotional is this need to eat a day or two after I have had a depo shot (I like crave everything LOL)
Besides that everything else in regards to side effects is "normal" for lack of a better word!

But smoking, current health status, etc. all may factor in to your specific side effects and reactions
Only you and the doctor will truly be able to find out. but don't be frighten the serious severe side effects you listed are in a small marginal percentage in the focus group that tested the drug (s) you refer to.

Keep ya head up.
And ditto on what Steph said!

Chynna
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kristie

Thanks so much to all of your for your input and support.  Now I have a very good reason to quit smoking finally.  Actually about 2 months ago I banished myself to the outdoors only to smoke which cut my smoking by more than half, so now I just need to use those nicotine lozenges on my dresser and quit for good.  I do however, exercise quite a bit...Pilates and walking 8 to 10 MILES per day!  I'm on medications for the panic disorder that makes my metabolism like in the minus range, lol...but I'm determined to lose the weight I've gained if it kills me...so far I've lost about 9 lbs in two weeks, but probably more fat that that because I've also gained muscle mass in the process, which of course muscle is denser and therefor heavier than fat.  Anyway, I don't know how I could ever move forward without the support and information from my fellow sisters...thank you again.  I do feel a bit less concerned about the possible side-effects of HRT.  Kristie :angel:
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