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Started by sundance, April 28, 2008, 05:00:20 PM

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sundance

will i be able to have a baby if i have male to female sex change, yes i am serious
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tekla

Given the current state of medical science and technology, no.  In the future perhaps it might advance that far, or perhaps any medical treatment at all might well be a luxury.  I think that depends on us.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Just Mandy

I agree with Tekla... not in our lifetimes.

But I think in two or three hundred years people will look back and think of these
times like we do about the dark ages... unbelievable.

Doctors will be able to implant cells to regrow organs and yes even form
a proper MTF with all the normal female bits. I know it will happen and I'm just
sad we live in these times.

Amanda

Something sleeps deep within us
hidden and growing until we awaken as ourselves.
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Natasha

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Suzy

Is this serious??




Kristi
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Moira Midnigh

Weeeeeell...

Yes, you can. You can adopt. Or you can have a child with your female partner, using your own sperm cells. Or you can, if you like men, get a kinda expensive thing done that would transform a sperm- or stem-cell into an egg, which could be fertilized by your male partner's sperm, then inserted into a...oh, wossname...a lady who would carry the child and give birth to it for you and your partner.

So you can have a child, and a biological one at that.

But you cannot give birth yourself, sadly.

Not in our life-time.


~Moi
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JENNIFER

We can transplant Hearts, Livers, Eye parts, Kidneys and now that the science of Stem Cells has developed, even severe burn injuries could be resolved in due course.  Can one eventually transplant the entire female reproductive system to a willing patient be she genetic or transgendered? Clearly the doner would either have to be dead or maybe one of you F to M's among us but this raises the ethical dilema of the genetic material contained within those eggs that remain in the ovaries needed for a pregnancy to occur......a fascinating thought and it needs a brave scientist to make this happen. 

After all, it was a brave man that gave us the first heart transplant was it not? Considered a right these days but what a hullabaloo at the time  ;)......

What would really interest this 48 yr old trans spinster is the possibility of adoption and it would be great if we could here of anyone in our special community that managed this  :)
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Moira Midnigh

It might be possible, yeah, but I must confess I've no idea how that whole transplantation thing works AT ALL, so I should not go there ^__^

But like Amanda, I'm sure they'll be doing things, a hundred years from now, that we can not even dream of now.


~Moi
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JENNIFER

Quote from: Moira Midnigh on April 29, 2008, 03:21:14 PM
It might be possible, yeah, but I must confess I've no idea how that whole transplantation thing works AT ALL, so I should not go there ^__^

But like Amanda, I'm sure they'll be doing things, a hundred years from now, that we can not even dream of now.


~Moi

If I believed in reincarnation then I might be reborn a girl and then have no idea what the transgender fuss was about...and babies would flow   :angel:
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Katelynne

um...sketchy question
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Just Mandy

I asked some questions when I started down this road that I'm sure a lot
of you thought were off the wall... and I'm still doing that... so I'm willing
to believe that it was a serious question :)

Amanda

Something sleeps deep within us
hidden and growing until we awaken as ourselves.
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tinkerbell

#11
SRS/GRS doesn't create internal organs; hence, a post-operative MTF transsexual neither menstruates nor has the capacity to bear children.

tink :icon_chick:
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Rachael

most accurate answer: 'maybe sometime'
R >:D
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Tanya1

It's possible. They may not be able to change Chromosomes since that's complicated.

It think the organ and female reproductive idea is something that is possible.
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JENNIFER

Quote from: Tanya1 on May 01, 2008, 03:43:23 PM
It's possible. They may not be able to change Chromosomes since that's complicated.

It think the organ and female reproductive idea is something that is possible.

Very possible if the do-gooders and the religions back off so that science might be able to make it so.....like I have said previously, Hearts are now a routine organ for transplant and if I am not in error, the Roman Church had major issues with that one........ >:D
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Rowan_Danielle

Given a lot of the work they are starting to do for veterans of the wars in the Middle East, I wouldn't be surprised if they develop the technology to grow muscles and other body parts to spec.  If these body parts are based on cells from the person they are going into, there are fewer problems with transplant rejection.  (Technology does tend to advance quickly during war time.)

Once custom muscles become possible, you have the basics of the uterus.  I suspect that reproductive science would consider uterus reconstruction for women who have had a hysterectomy to be a valid activity.  From there it would be a 'simple' step to doing the same for MtF.

With this, a bit of extra work, and current reproductive technology using donor sperm/eggs, it would be possible to bear a child.

The timing, technologically, would be fifty years or less.  Politically, it would likely take longer.

Posted on: May 08, 2008, 11:19:48 AM
Quote from: Kristi on April 28, 2008, 07:51:14 PM
Is this serious??




Kristi

I would be tempted by the process.
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JENNIFER

I have had further thoughts on this matter and have come to the same conclusion in that religious and political obstacles may be greater than any forthcoming medical and scientific advances.   

Here is one of my less challenging thoughts;   What if it were possible to take over unwanted pregnancies rather than abort them and thus lose forever the foetal material with the aim of bringing to term a pregnancy either within the parent womb or by means of a 'temporary transplant of a womb' to the body of the new parent, that could be a transwoman or even a genetic woman that had her uterus remove due to cancer or other reasons.  That movie with Schwarzennegar ( I forget which one ) being pregnant was a comedy of sorts but if taken seriouysly to it's potential, I can see some progress here.

It may be too late for me to have a baby but in years to come, transgirls will certainly want to be equal with genetic girls in the baby stakes.   :)
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Rowan_Danielle

Quote from: JENNIFER on May 08, 2008, 02:42:32 PM
I have had further thoughts on this matter and have come to the same conclusion in that religious and political obstacles may be greater than any forthcoming medical and scientific advances.   

Here is one of my less challenging thoughts;   What if it were possible to take over unwanted pregnancies rather than abort them and thus lose forever the foetal material with the aim of bringing to term a pregnancy either within the parent womb or by means of a 'temporary transplant of a womb' to the body of the new parent, that could be a transwoman or even a genetic woman that had her uterus remove due to cancer or other reasons.  That movie with Schwarzennegar ( I forget which one ) being pregnant was a comedy of sorts but if taken seriouysly to it's potential, I can see some progress here.

It may be too late for me to have a baby but in years to come, transgirls will certainly want to be equal with genetic girls in the baby stakes.   :)

You might be able to get the support of the anti-abortion community for this, though many may have religious objections.

As an aside, I believe there was some research involving a male baboon and a pregnancy that lasted for four months, out of a potential seven, before it was terminated.  (Google: baboon  "male pregnancy")  Such an abdominal pregnancy occurs naturally in humans and usually fails.  It is extremely hazardous to the mother.  It showed that a fertlized egg doesn't care where it is as long as it has the needed nutrients.  (Having a uterus or equivalent is VERY helpful though.)

Oh, the movie is "Junior".
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JENNIFER

Quote from: Rowan_Danielle on May 08, 2008, 03:58:24 PM
Quote from: JENNIFER on May 08, 2008, 02:42:32 PM
I have had further thoughts on this matter and have come to the same conclusion in that religious and political obstacles may be greater than any forthcoming medical and scientific advances.   

Here is one of my less challenging thoughts;   What if it were possible to take over unwanted pregnancies rather than abort them and thus lose forever the foetal material with the aim of bringing to term a pregnancy either within the parent womb or by means of a 'temporary transplant of a womb' to the body of the new parent, that could be a transwoman or even a genetic woman that had her uterus remove due to cancer or other reasons.  That movie with Schwarzennegar ( I forget which one ) being pregnant was a comedy of sorts but if taken seriouysly to it's potential, I can see some progress here.

It may be too late for me to have a baby but in years to come, transgirls will certainly want to be equal with genetic girls in the baby stakes.   :)

You might be able to get the support of the anti-abortion community for this, though many may have religious objections.

As an aside, I believe there was some research involving a male baboon and a pregnancy that lasted for four months, out of a potential seven, before it was terminated.  (Google: baboon  "male pregnancy")  Such an abdominal pregnancy occurs naturally in humans and usually fails.  It is extremely hazardous to the mother.  It showed that a fertlized egg doesn't care where it is as long as it has the needed nutrients.  (Having a uterus or equivalent is VERY helpful though.)

Oh, the movie is "Junior".

Rowan_Danielle said "Oh, the movie is "Junior"."

Thank you, It was funny though, but you also confirmed the religious barricades that may be erected before us. I guess that until this is tested, we shall never really understand what the problems are .... :(   
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Rachael

why are we talking pregnant men here?

are you bunch not women? fine if so... but it confuses me....


Once transsexuals are socially accepted as the gender they are (not that far off tbh) the quite close ability to recreate a uterus for a natal female may be functional, and socially acceptable.

We got to take our stepping stones, nobody will accept a pregnant transwoman before they accept a transwoman.
R >:D
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