Video: Labels.

[Pica Pica]

I like 'em.

[Lutin]

 

I agree with the whole 'putting people in boxes/giving labels to things'...thing. It *does* help you to understand who/what you are. Like if you were really really sick - if you didn't have a name for it, you wouldn't know what it was and therefore how to treat it, but knowing that it's cancer or TB or something suddenly helps everyone. I don't think categorising people *too* much is a good thing, but being able to put oneself in a box (for me, at least) is very helpful. (Not that whatever name you box yourself with is an illness that should be cured, of course. Simile, *not* metaphor).


And Pica, I think you're gorgeous.


Lutin

[Pica Pica]

it does seem unfairly demonised.

[fluffy jorgen]

You just made my day.

[Nero]

And Pica, I think you're gorgeous.


Lutin

[Pica Pica]

And Pica, I think you're gorgeous.


Lutin

well, every group does have a lunatic fringe.

[Shana A]

Great video Pica!

Labels can be useful steps in understanding ourselves. I've worn more than a few labels myself over past years, and ultimately shed them all as part of my growth process. I used to joke that I've been every letter in the LBTGQ acronym.

Why restrict ourselves to only four sided boxes though? Triangles, pentangles, and octagons might be very comfy as well

Zythyra

[Pica Pica]

I imagine a triangular box would have been less comfortable, and it's not like that box was all that cosy.

[Shana A]

I imagine a triangular box would have been less comfortable, and it's not like that box was all that cosy.

That wine box didn't look too comfy, and the color was a bit drab 

What about a cylindrical box??  Or perhaps a box designed by Escher would be a good fit for androgynes. Yes, that's what I'd wear 

Z

[Pica Pica]

i'd have a purple hat box.

[Shana A]

i'd have a purple hat box.

That would be much more becoming on you than that corrugated tan schmatah

Z

[Nero]

I vote for gold.

[RebeccaFog]

why do you wear glasses if you always look over them?


My box is shapeless and canvas and is tied shut.  I think my box is a bag.

[Pica Pica]

i need them for distances further than my arm reach, details - stuff like tvs and signs and the features on people's faces. I am so poor at reading people's voices but very good at reading their faces so I wear them always. However they actually make it harder for me to see thins up close, like books and the little screen that I look at to check I'm still in frame.

Posted on: May 01, 2008, 03:31:12 PMthat and they broke three years ago and slide down my face. But I've never had the money to get a new pair.

[Shana A]

My box is shapeless and canvas and is tied shut.  I think my box is a bag.

We could tie-dye your bag to make it more stylish 

Z (friendly fashion consultant to famous androgynes)

[Jaimey]

Great video!!!  You don't look very comfortable in that box.  It seems a little small.  I think I'd like a black and pink trapezoidal box.  I like parallelograms too, but I think the trapezoid would be more comfortable. 

i need them for distances further than my arm reach, details - stuff like tvs and signs and the features on people's faces. I am so poor at reading people's voices but very good at reading their faces so I wear them always. However they actually make it harder for me to see thins up close, like books and the little screen that I look at to check I'm still in frame.

I can't see a foot in front of my face without my glasses, although during the day, I could probably manage to drive without them (I won't, but if I ever had to, I'd probably be all right so long as I knew where I was)

About reading people, I'm the opposite.  I get very little from looking at someone's face, or rather, I don't look at their face directly.  I'm usually watching their mouth (it helps me focus to see where the sound is coming from...and drumming for 15 years will hurt your hearing  ) and glance up to their eyes from time to time to prove that I'm listening.  However, I get SO MUCH from people's voices.  I'm definitely an auditory person.  I'm MUCH more likely to remember something if someone tells me than if I read it.  Word choice, tone of voice, intonation, all of those things are very telling.

that and they broke three years ago and slide down my face. But I've never had the money to get a new pair.

Glasses are stupid expensive.  I finally got a new pair of contacts, but I haven't gotten any more, so this pair is getting dried out.  I've had the same glasses for 10 years...and believe me, nothing you picked out when you were 16 looks good ten years later.

[Seshatneferw]

The recent database problems ate my previous comment about how the video is much more understandable than Wittgenstein. So, anyway, yes: we need words in order to talk -- or think -- about these issues. Boxes are good. At the same time, though, we must keep in mind that those boxes are man-made, so if one doesn't fit we should make a better one.

And it's very clear that Pica isn't a wine bottle. That box does not fit.

  Nfr

[Kinkly]

Boxes are good if you fit in a box but if you don't it can be very painful trying to fit in a box that others are pushing you into.
anyone that pushes you into a box is denying that you are different & special however finding your true box even if you are the only person in that box can be liberating but finding other people in that some box is very special

[Pica Pica]

a box is easy to build

[Kinkly]

a box is easy to build

how do you build a box that you are comfortable in when you are a totally weird shape that keeps changing or mabie i should have 50+ different boxes one for each aspect of my personality / identity