perception of gender

[beth_finallyme]

I assume the best in you Svetlana.

[Terri-Gene]

"the figures of 104 of 280,000,000
and 3251 of 140,000,000
comparing them is absolutely meaningless, it assumes everyone in the US is transgendered

then consider it 6301 females out of a total U.S. peopulation of 280,000,000 people and leave out GBT altogether is the way I read it.

TG

[Leigh]

the figures of 104 of 280,000,000


and 3251 of 140,000,000


comparing them is absolutely meaningless, it assumes everyone in the US is transgendered

If 10% of the total population of the US was gender varient that would be 28 million.  104 out of 28 million is nothing close to 3,251 out of 140 million.  Comparison wise that would equate to 520 to 3,251.

[Susan]

If 10% of the total population of the US was gender varient that would be 28 million.  104 out of 28 million is nothing close to 3,251 out of 140 million.  Comparison wise that would equate to 520 to 3,251.

I found the numbers I researched for the letter I wrote to the IRS.

Based on current estimations there are approximately 11,596 male to
female(MTF) transsexuals and 4,703 female to male transsexuals(FTM) in
the United States (1 in 11,900 males and 1 in 30,400 females).
Worldwide it breaks down to roughly 257,084 MTF Transsexuals and
99,324 FTM transsexuals. The disparity between MTF and FTM
transsexuals can be attributed in my personal opinion to the fact that
women dressing and living in a male role is much more commonplace and
so more easily accepted in our society. Also you should consider that the
complexity and expense of a female to male sex change operation to that
of a male to female is much higher and is more intrusive physically.

The sources for these numbers is the SOC Version 6 for the ratio and the CIA World Fact Book for the population break down.  I personally think these numbers are way low and think the number of transsexual and transgendered individuals are much higher. These numbers do not break down for Intersexed or Gay individuals.

Some other interesting ratios from that same letter.

Not XX and not XY
1 in 1,666 births

Klinefelter (XXY)
1 in 1,000 births

Androgen insensitivity syndrome
1 in 13,000 births

Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome
1 in 130,000 births

Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia
1 in 13,000 births

Late onset adrenal hyperplasia
1 in 66 individuals

Vaginal agenesis
1 in 6,000 births

Ovotestes
1 in 83,000 births

Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause)
1 in 110,000 births

Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered  to pregnant mother)
no estimate

5 alpha reductase deficiency
no estimate

Mixed gonadal dysgenesis
no estimate

Complete gonadal dysgenesis
1 in 150,000 births

Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft)
1 in 2,000 births

Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) 1 in
770 births

Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female 1 in
100 births

Total number of people receiving surgery to "normalize" genital appearance
1 or 2 in 1,000 births"


This also raises issues for defining for the Republican's vision of marriage who is and is not male or female when so many of the population doesn't fit either definition.

[beth_finallyme]

thank you Susan,

Those statistics are very interesting.


I got the information about the TG murder rate from this:   

"Reported cases of transgender murders are escalating; since August of 1998 there has been approximately one murder a month," Gwen Smith, a Bay Area transgender activist who tracks reports of transgender murders, told the Bay Area Reporter. "Since February of 1999, however, that number has jumped to two a month."

Based on very liberal estimates of the transgender population, which would yield a conservative murder rate, transgender historian Candice "Kay" Brown recently calculated that a murder rate of one male-to-female transsexual person each month comes to an average of 119 murders per 100,000 transsexuals, or an average 16 times greater than the national average. This murder rate is more than three times that of African-American men, who have the next highest recorded murder rate.

"And considering that most of it is motivated by transphobia, as evidenced by the brutality of the manner of death [multiple stabbing, beating, choking] we are indeed seeing the brunt of the hate crime in the U.S. as a percentage of our population. - This is a state of emergency," Brown declared

I think the murder rate is shown to be low by some standards because they only count transsexual murders and then use the transgendered population number. 

[michelle]

At sixty,  I know what it feels to sit around the living room in a skirt and nylons,  but I don't know what it feels like to be a sixty year old male.   I know what it feels like to hold my spouce as one girl holds another girl,  but I don't know what it feels like to be a man holding a women.   I know what nylons feel like but not hard male muscles.    What does a sixty year old man do or feel like.  I don't know.  I admit I don't know what a sixty year old woman feels like,  but my life style is more feminine than it is masculine.  I like it that way.