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How Do I Get Rid of My Hate and Anger?

Started by MarcosGirl, June 06, 2006, 09:20:13 AM

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MarcosGirl

Hey all,
          I am posting this in here because I am an S.O., but I welcome ALL input.

          In my past posts, I have shared my experiences with the wretched divorce that I am going through.  Just to encapsulate it, I am in the middle of an extremely messy divorce and we are at the custody battle stage.  Even though my ex mentally tormented me for 17 years (and got physical on a few occassions), that seems to be irrelevant at this point.  My family (sister and children) and friends, and especially my ex has turned this whole thing into being about Marco's and my relationship.  Every time we are in court our relationship seems to be the main focus, not the facts pertaining to the divorce.  My ex has lied time and time again to manipulate the system, and it seems to be working well for him to this point.  I feel I have been very honest and up front.  I have been playing by the Judge's rules and my ex has been bending them into a pretzel.  And everytime I leave the courtroom, I feel like I've been run over with a John Deere lawn mower.

         Well...to get to my point, I feel, at times, that I am consumed with hate and anger toward my ex (and toward other family members and friends too).  I have always considered myself a very loving person.  I feel I have a genuine heart for people, and I have never felt feelings of hatred so strongly in my entire life.  It is eating me up from the inside out.  I am a Christian, and I know that God tells us to love those who persecute us, and love our enemies.  I am really struggling with this right now.  What really gets to me about the whole thing is that I am letting my ex have so much control over my emotions.  I really want to release those that make me so angry, but it is extremely diffiicult when everytime I deal with them, I feel like I'm the one getting screwed!

         Any ideas?

Thanks for listening (reading),
Pam
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Kate

Hi Pam... I'm so sorry you're going through such a rough time :(

Anger is difficult to work through. There are many things I've learned to let slide, such as personal insults, mean people, etc. I've learned to find people like that amusing more than anything else.

But have someone intentionally cut me off in traffic (putting us both in danger), or have a smoker light up and start poisoning me... and I start looking for a shotgun.

I guess it's a control thing. Insults and mean people have no practical, lasting effects. But people intentionally trying to kill me tends to really make me mad, lol.

Anyway, methinks we ALL have our hot points, our particular buttons to be pushed. I sometimes think God's fun is to keep pushing them to HELP us learn to overcome our particular weaknesses. I bet if you think about it, the same kind of situations keep arising in your life, don't they? They sure do in mine: it's as if until I resolve my personal issues, God will just keep sending "tests" my way. Or better said: opportunities to learn and grow.

And hey, the fact that you're even ASKING this question shows what a beautiful soul you already have ;)
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Melissa

Quote from: Kate on June 06, 2006, 09:36:28 AM
But people intentionally trying to kill me tends to really make me mad, lol.

It does sound like her ex is intentionally trying to hurt her.

Pam, if I remember correctly, you live in California.  Doesn't California have some very liberal anti-discrimination laws against both transsexuals and lesbians.  If so, why are they getting away with it in a court of law.  Perhaps they needs somebody (your lawyer?) to point that out.

Melissa
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MarcosGirl

Kate,  Thank you very much for the encouragement!  I know exactly what you're saying about God sending little "tests" our way.  It's like the old saying...Be careful what you pray for.  If you pray for patience, then God is going to give you more situations where you need to exercise more patience.  Eeeeek!!!  :icon_blah:

Melissa, thank you for posting too.  California does have these laws, but it's very hard to prove such things if the attacks are only verbal.  You are right about my ex trying to hurt me intentionally.  He is a very self-absorbed individual that can't see a situation through someone else's eyes.  This whole divorce has been about how he has been affected and then exacting his revenge on me.  He doesn't look at how his abuse affected me in a huge way (probably permanently).  I have an appointment with my attorney today to give him some harrassing letters my ex's parents sent me and also to let him listen to a phone message my ex left me (that, of course, I saved) that is pretty incriminating.  I'm hoping that the tide will change in our next court hearing.

Thanks again!
Pam
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stephanie_craxford

Quote from: MarcosGirl on June 06, 2006, 09:20:13 AM
Hey all,
          I am posting this in here because I am an S.O., but I welcome ALL input.

          In my past posts, I have shared my experiences with the wretched divorce that I am going through.  Just to encapsulate it, I am in the middle of an extremely messy divorce and we are at the custody battle stage.  Even though my ex mentally tormented me for 17 years (and got physical on a few occassions), that seems to be irrelevant at this point.  My family (sister and children) and friends, and especially my ex has turned this whole thing into being about Marco's and my relationship.  Every time we are in court our relationship seems to be the main focus, not the facts pertaining to the divorce.  My ex has lied time and time again to manipulate the system, and it seems to be working well for him to this point.  I feel I have been very honest and up front.  I have been playing by the Judge's rules and my ex has been bending them into a pretzel.  And everytime I leave the courtroom, I feel like I've been run over with a John Deere lawn mower....

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 Thanks for listening (reading),
Pam

I am by no means an expert in emotional issues or divorce court for that matter, however I do believe that when we feel helpless or powerless to take action or defend ourselves then our emotions kick in.  It would seem from your post that your ex's team is winning and that your team as somehow dropped the ball or is letting them get away with issues they should be countering.  For me I would talk to my lawyer and find out what the problem is and what you can do to counter your ex.  Take off the "Kid Gloves" and take charge, take some action so that you don't have this feeling of helplessness I guess.  As I mentioned I'm really not familiar with you situation so I hope that I haven't said anything out of turn.

Steph
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Chynna

Hatred is a powerful emotion which ultimately lead to one inevitable conclusion Self destruction.

The hate you feel for theses individuals can easily be turned back into "acceptance" for them.
I use the word "ACCEPTANCE" because that unfortunantly is what you'll need to do. Is accept them for all there short comings and wrong doings.
Because we all have faults
There's maybe a little more extreme or seem to be intentional directed to hurt you and that may be the case but individuals who attack or try to hurt another individual are usually doing it because they felt hurt by something you did first. Even thou you did nothing accept be yourself & truthful in your eyes.
These individuals who hurt you obviously have some negative feelings for you that there projecting out to you in a hurtfull way they probably don't even realize that they are being so hurtfull to you or effecting you to the point that you have become hatefull. whaat you should do is realize and remember the reason why you called them family, or friends in the first place because that is truly how you feel about them. not in a hateful way but loving and dear

Hate will consume all other emotions and then you without you realizing it

Forgive your Ex for all his\her wrong doings and you will see how much control of your emotions you will regain.

if that doesn't work try hitting them with a frying pan a few times it might help briefly! ;D
Chynna
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spike

Hey pam not sure if I got you email or if you got mine. missed a lot of work so i cant check private work email from home. Getting by, not too happy but getting buy.
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MarcosGirl

Steph,
       Thank you so much for the advise.  I just got back from an appointment with my attorney and let's just say that I have taken the "kid gloves" off and put on my "boxing gloves".  I feel better after talking to him.  He told me that I just need to be patient and that my ex and his family's fanaticism is going to be their ruin.  I just need to continue doing what is right by the court and by my kids and the judge will see this.

Chynna,
     I got your message and responded.  Thanks for posting here too though!  I like the frying pan idea...if all else fails, I may buy me a big 14 inch cast iron skillet!  :icon_bat:

Spike,
    I got your email and have responded to it.  Thank you too for posting here as well!

Pam
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Peggiann

I thought it better to respond to each post where your issues were posted rather than all in one.

This is a great place to share your hurt and dredfull events that you are going through. It is better that you have a place like this to share and really figure out what part of what is said and done by whom it is that hurts and insults you. That way you'll better know how to deal with just that specific issue. mountains are much easier to move one shovel full at a time.

Family! Now they are important. They are a part of you. It is best to try to save any amount of positive relationship with them you can. Your sister... she does not come before your children. What ever she has to offer if anything but possitive should be stopped immediately. If she can't see your children as an aunt without speaking of your personal relationship in any manner at all then she should not be allowed to see them. In all my life of 50+ years I have never heard of an aunt that discusses with their niece and nephew the intimate issues of thier parents. Most definately not at the ages of your children. Your ex-in-laws...well they will be just that. ex's. After the divorce is final you will not have to ever see them or speak to them again. If they persist, get a restraining order out against them having any contact with you. Have as little to do with them as possible because it will serve you now possitive purpose that will be life lasting for you and your immediate family...Marco and your children and his children. Anyone beyond that inner circle are only allowed in because they are supportive and not tearing at the foundation of your family. Don't get me wrong...don't go looking for people to owst out. Just from past and present events that prove to be nonbenificial to the good of your immediate inner circle are the ones you don't go out of your way to have contact with. If they confront you or are insultive in anyway give no respnse and remove yourself gracefully, giving no hint of injury to your heart or emotional state.

Hurt and hate are not the same thing. Hurt you can keep from happening over and over again by the means I've allready shared. Hate is deeper and is very consuming if you let it be. If you are still tearful over a specific event or issue it is most likely hurt you are feeling. If you are not tearful about anything a certain someone does to you and only have thought's of harm and revenge and feel rage not anger  uncontrolable rage, that is more in the hate group. With this group you must pray for control and release and a peaceful heart, and of course stay as far away from whom ever is on the receiving end of this hate. For your healths sake this is a must. In terms of your spouse (your children's Dad) the one you are devorcing...any and all communication can be done through the court in issues of the childs support. It can be set up where you pay to the court and they give it to him. In issues dealing with transfer of your children that can be arranged by the court for someone other than their Dad or his parents or your sister can bring them for the visits. or you meet them in a nutral place.

Your friends...well now that all together different. Your friend isn't much of a friend if they cause you so much grief. Again I say one should distance yourself from anyone not deserving of your attention. If they aren't supportive... you don't need them in your life at this point and time. So don't waste the energy on them.

I'm known for speaking my mind and not beating around the bush. I hope this is not to harshly phrased. You don't need any more hurts than you have already had.

Smiles again your way you need them more than anything else right now.

Smiles,
Peggiann 
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MarcosGirl

Peggiann:
        Thank you so much for this advice!!!!!  You have so much insight and have been a great help to me in the words you have said.  I am currently seeing a therapist that said that I need to work through my hate to get to where I am hurting and begin to release these people that are hurting me.

Thank you again and I look forward to "chatting" with you more!

Pam
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Elizabeth

Pam,

I went through a similar ugly divorce. My wife phyically assaulted me, more than once, and I restrained myself. I did not go and get a restraining order against her for this domestice violence. When I called the cops, they showed up four hours later and told me I was wasting my time because she was going to come out and claim I hit her and we would both go to jail and my kids to foster care.

I decided to just be the bigger person. That is until the cops came to my house and served papers on me, a temporary restraining order. She went to court and claimed I hit her, which my kids could testisfy to, was a lie.  But the judge said my kids would not be allowed nor permitted to testify, except my oldest daughter who was 22 and flat out told me she was going to lie for my exwife and say I was abusive and she claimed I hit her, when in reality she smacked me accross the face when I would not allow her to take things out of my house when they were leaving.

When it came to court day on the restraining order, my exwife dropped the case when she found out that the court was going to talk to my children, even though they would not testify in court. When she left she stole my laptop computer, which I then reported stolen, by her. They would not go after her, however when I told her that I filed a complaint, she called the cops and said she found kiddy porn on my computer.

I gave the cops permission to look at my computer and when they looked at it, they found out that kiddy porn was put on there the day after she stole it, and the day I served her with divorce papers. They asked me if I wanted them to press charges against her for this, and I told them no. At the same time she gave my laptop to the cops, she also called Child Protective Services and said I was a danger to my kids and I was exposing them to porn.

Both the cops and Child Protective Services came and interviewed my kids in private and of course they found out what she did to my laptop. I was exhonerated of everything. But mostly, I took the high ground. My children were very angry at her, and at times they still are. However I told my kids to accept thier mother as she was, not expect her to be what they want her to be. That even if she did some really bad things, that I knew with certainty, that she really loved them.

It was very hard to put my anger away and to take the high road.  I did at times say some bad things about my exwife in the presence of my children, in the end though, my kids figured it all our on their own. My kids all seem to have recovered from this ugly divorce and seem happy again. None of them are filled with hate and anger, with the possible exception of my oldest son, who still carries some anger. I have and continue to encourage my children to have a good relationship with thier mother. I don't want them to feel as if they are betraying me by having a relationship with her.  In the end, it would only make them resent me.

You see the thing about anger is this.  We don't feel other people when they are angry at us. If anyone is angry at me right now, I don't feel it. I am in bliss.  It is they who have to feel the hate. It is thier thoughts comsumed with what they would say or do to me if they could. It is thier burdon.  The only hate I feel is the hate I have for others.  That is why I hate no one.  I have no ill will for anyone.

I had a teacher once tell our class to get a pillowcase and for every person that we hated, get a potato and write their name on it and put it in the pillow case.  Then carry that pillowcase with us everywhere we go. Soon those potatoes will start to sprout and decay and stink and every day it will get harder to carry them around with us. Soon it will become the most difficult thing we do each day. You see that is how hate is, it only hurts the person doing the hating.

My pillowcase is empty and it is easy to carry. I will not allow others to fill it up for me.  No matter the aggression, hate can only hurt me.  I came out of the closet to be happy.  I decided to live my life as the woman I am to be happy. No matter what my exwife did to me, I will not hurt myself even worse by hating her.

I hope this helps.

Love always,
Elizabeth
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Melissa

That's a very inspiring story Elizabeth.  It gives some good examples of how doing the right thing gets you ahead in the end.  I also liked your pillowcase story and that the only person who feels the hate is the person doing the hating.

Melissa
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Dennis

That's beautiful, Elizabeth. And you've gone through so much. I only wish you had pressed charges when she planted the porn on your computer. People like that get away with so much because many of us are trying not to be petty.

I always try and tell my clients who are going through that to let it go unless they can nail them 100%, but it's hard to tell them how.

Dennis
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Kate Thomas

Pam
an online group that has many trans-custody related links
http://www.transparentcy.org
QuoteOur mission is to support the transgender parent, and their supporters and advocates (lawyers, mental health professionals, friends, family, allies) by providing information and resources to educate and thus disspell the myths about being transgendered/transsexual having an adverse impact on one's children.
best wishes
KateAlice
"But who is that on the other side of you?"
T.S. Eliot
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MarcosGirl

Thank you so much, Elizabeth, for sharing your experience.  I do like the potato analogy.  I know that the negative emotions I am carrying around with me at this point are weighing me down.  I just have to learn to release these people that anger me.

KateAlice,
     Thank you for the link.  The other night was a good night for me and my daughter, where she was open to hearing positive information about transsexualism.  That link will give me more information to be able to share with her.

Thanks again!
Pam
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Dennis

Pam, are you in counselling at all? It might be an idea to help you let go of it. Or, help you realize, deep down that you have to. Your brain obviously knows that you have to, but your heart is having trouble. Maybe a counsellor could give you a hand with that.

Dennis
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MarcosGirl

Dennis,
       Yes, I am actually in some intense counseling that I go to three times a week.  That is group therapy, then I meet with an individual counselor every other week and I meet with a psychiatrist once a month because I am medicated for depression.  I am in this intensive counseling because I was hospitalized back in April in a locked unit mental health facility because I was suicidal.  My counselors are helping me to deal with things.  They keep telling me that I am doing a great job dealing with all this, but sometimes (especially those times when I have to talk to the ex) I feel like I am struggling.

Thanks,
Pam
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