The Female Face... everything you always wanted to know

[Keira]

If I had to guess, it would be 3C for the TS
Because of the robust mid face cheekbone
(robustness of the facial bones is a male trait).
and the eyes. But... Maybe she's not 

Anyway, they all look good to me so hey!

1A has a strong jaw and looks very beautiful,
she probably models (if she's the TS, so be it Hehehe).

In my opinion, if you are a TS and
look like any of these and you get
substantial FFS (beyond a nose job)
you need therapy badly.

[Maddie Secutura]

I just don't know.  I'm going to guess 2A.

[Just Mandy]

If I'm right what do I win....

Gina... you win an all expense paid trip to... lol... no... too expensive.... ummm... how about
the best T-DAR award?

I'm not going to say who it is just yet... I'll let a few more guesses come in. There is actually
more than one... three of the girls are transsexual and I would say very lucky indeed to have the
features they have. I will be floored if anyone gets all three. I have to admit I did choose a couple
of GG's that look maybe TS... just to make it interesting.

The thing that really stood out to me was how masculine really pretty girls look. And it really helped me
to see how all noses are FAR from perfect and you can be very attractive without that perfect nose. I think
small tweaking would get mine to be as good as many of these.

Another thing that stands out to me is the chin on these women. With the exception of E4 they all have
delicate narrow and short chins. And most have fairly small mouths. It would seem that on us chin work is
fairly simple and seems to be a BIG marker.

In my opinion, if you are a TS and
look like any of these and you get
substantial FFS (beyond a nose job)
you need therapy badly.

Agreed... Keira... these are all beautiful ladies.

I need to probably say this... if someone here is one of these ladies... please forgive me for using your
picture... but also know that I only used it becuase you are so beautiful. If you are offended and
you contact me privately I will remove the picture.

Amanda

[Alyssa M.]

Oh, fun -- spot-the-->-bleeped-<- where it's guaranteed that you're going to get lots of "false positives"!

I would guess none if you hadn't said otherwise ... but if I have to choose, I'll guess A5 (upper right). She has a strong jawline, longer face, perhaps a hint of brow ridge, maybe her hairstyle is trying to divert attention ... but it's far from obvious. Can I cheat by going to Lynn Conway's page?

[Just Mandy]

Oh, fun -- spot-the-->-bleeped-<- where it's guaranteed that you're going to get lots of "false positives"!

I did not intend for it to be "spot-the-->-bleeped-<-"... just a study of female faces I hope no one is offended.

I can see what you mean about A5 and C3 as Keira guessed.

What does Lynn Conway have on her page?

Amanda

[Alyssa M.]

Amanda, in the context it's not offensive because there are so many false positives -- at least it's not offensive to me. I was just being a bit flippant. By being so difficult, the whole "game" seems a little ridiculous, and it makes passing seem more possible to those of us who worry about it.

Lynn Conway has a "Transsexual Women's Successes" page. (She has a "Successsful Transmen" page as well.) It's good browsing. I love reading through the titles -- "customs officer, software entrepreneur, architect, aerobics intstructor, proiducer, recording artist, IT manager, OBGYN" ...

"physicist"

Lynn Conway is sort of my hero. Her site probably more than anything else has helped me get over all my feelings of guilt and freakishness. She's the anti-Baily.

~Alyssa

[Just Mandy]

makes passing seem more possible to those of us who worry about it.

That's what I got out of all these too... there are a few perfect faces in the world... but
none of these are... they are beautiful... not perfect.

Lynn Conway has a "Transsexual Women's Successes" page. (She has a "Successsful Transmen" page as well.) It's good browsing. I love reading through the titles -- "customs officer, software entrepreneur, architect, aerobics intstructor, proiducer, recording artist, IT manager, OBGYN" ...

I've not seen that site before... but it's very cool... I'm going to have some reading to do. Thanks

Amanda

[Virginia87106]

They are all very beautiful.  I shall guess:

A2, B5 and E2.

[Melissa]

I would guess 2nd Row, 5th Picture (B5 I think?).  She just seems to stand out to me as different than the others. 

Interestingly, most of these women just don't look *that* attractive to ME.  I mean I can see their beauty, but it just doesn't appeal to me.  I think there was 1 or 2 photos that did sort of appeal to me though.

All I ever wanted in terms of beauty was to be able to not wear any makeup and be undeniably seen as female.  When I first started I thought I would need loads of FFS to get there, but I've not had any surgeries towards transitions and I'm already at that point, so I'm happy with my looks.  The only reason I would consider FFS is if I decided to pursue acting as a career, but I think that kind of goes for many women.

[Keira]

There is a site, women with large jaw which serves to prove that actually wide square jaws is not a male marker, again
its the CHIN HEIGHT and SHAPE that's important.  Its womenlargejaw.com

This is a small sample, all of them have very very sucessfull carreers, half the women in hollywood, music and
almost all supermodels have what could be termed atypical female jaws, yet they are seen as beautiful.

Geena Davis, Oscar winner


Model Aurelie Claudel


Michelle Pfeifer


Emily Deschanel, star of the TV serie Bones


Shalom Harlow, one of the top 10 supermodels of the 90's


Miss Switzerland

[Just Mandy]

And the winner is Maddie and Virgina... with one correct... A2.

The funny thing is I don't think she looks anymore masculine than any of the others. I think it may be the
shape of her eyes or eye shadow that gives her away.

Anyway the girls that are transsexuals are A2, C2 and D5. All very pretty and feminine and in real life
probably have no problems at all passing. I think C2 is one of the prettiest of all the girls.

I saw A5, B3, C1, C3, C5, D2 as more masculine than any of the transsexuals.

Amanda

[Melissa]

There is a site, women with large jaw which serves to prove that actually wide square jaws is not a male marker, again
its the CHIN HEIGHT and SHAPE that's important.  Its womenlargejaw.com

That's interesting.  Apparently I naturally have a female chin height and shape...at least according to Dr. Ousterhout.

[Mari]

at least half of the girls are more trans-looking than A2 is

[Maddie Secutura]

I don't really know why I picked A2.  It was just a hunch really.  If I had to put my finger on it I guess it's the forehead and chin.  She still has a bit of brow bossing and the same shape head as my dad.

[samanthawhalen]

Beauty comes from within. Likewise femininity.

That's my six pence worth.

Louise

At a great risk of sound like an ***, I want to say that the fact that you are NOT beautiful (as the average person would define feminity), yet so purely feminine in your thoughts, evident in your writing, is something to behold.  I wish that more people on this Earth were like you, and that socieity would realize that feminity and masculinity shouldn't be defined by how we look, but rather how we feel.  I think the whole feminity/masculinity thing is such bullcrap.  Please know that you're a real inspiration to me!   

Aeron

[buttercup]

I think all the girls are drop dead gorgeous! 

My jaw is going to get a seeing to very soon. 
It isn't really large, but still out of female range.  I hope I will be happy with the results, anyway it will 'enhance my femininity', using Doctors words. lol
If you can make some of your dreams come true, just grab it with both hands and do it.  I just hope they have enough pain killers, but gotta to admit I have a high tolerance for pain, if I start complaining it must be bad. lol 

[Just Mandy]

That is awesome, what's the date of your surgery Buttercup... or should we just wait to see if you start complaining?

Amanda

[Suzy]

What a bunch of beautiful of faces.  I would have guessed wrong.  But I am just in awe of those lips.  I've always wanted to have nice full lips like that. 

Kristi

[louise000]

Beauty comes from within. Likewise femininity.

That's my six pence worth.

Louise

At a great risk of sound like an ***, I want to say that the fact that you are NOT beautiful (as the average person would define feminity), yet so purely feminine in your thoughts, evident in your writing, is something to behold.  I wish that more people on this Earth were like you, and that socieity would realize that feminity and masculinity shouldn't be defined by how we look, but rather how we feel.  I think the whole feminity/masculinity thing is such bullcrap.  Please know that you're a real inspiration to me!   

Aeron

Thank you Aeron sooo much for your kind words (and honest opinion!) . Yes I know I'm plain but it doesn't bother me. There are plenty more genetic girls like me. As a guy I was an idiot but the hormones are definitely helping in that respect, I just want people to like me when they meet me even if I'm not at all pretty  Louise

[Just Mandy]

I thought these were very inspirational pictures of women that were less than
they could be before their makeover. They have all had plastic surgery, I think most if
not all had a rhinoplasty to reduce a large nose.

I think hair style and makeup had more to do with it than the plastic
surgery in some cases.

It's an amazing difference all in all. Very pretty women.

Amanda