suporn is very expensive.is he that good

[deniz]

I had an e mail from sophie, i believe his secretary/and she wrote that the cost is 495.000 BHT that means 9.900 EUROS. considering that bowers and brassards are between 11;500-12;000 euros then i keep questioning my self.Is he that greaT?Should i take him into consideration.

[Mari]

Well the first question is can/could you afford him? And second one, what made you choose him over Bowers or Bassard at the first place? was it just the price or smth else? cuz if you prefer bowers for example, than you could find the way of saving 2000€ more... it's your life and health in the game after all

[Veerle]

I heard Suporn's results are quite well. (But apparently it takes a bit longer to recover, sry, only heard of experience.) A friend of mine is going there in August, simply because the results over here aren't that well. (She said: i'm 18, and I can't afford to have an "oops"; because they don't do enough surgeries here to get enough experience.)
And if I look at the results of him, it looks marvelous (At least on his website.). But see it for yourself.

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Posted on: May 19, 2008, 08:49:49 AM
Hmmm, odd, i've placed a lot of letters in my previous response, and nothing appears :S

[NicholeW.]

Veerle. I see no response. Occasionally a glitch is in the system that makes it blank on the board and still allows you to edit, etc as if the post were there. Now that I've posted this, try again and see if you can get your response on the board. Sorry,

Nichole

Deniz,

All of the surgeons you listed get very good reviews. Suporn is thought by many to be, with Brassard, the top surgeon currently performing SRSes. But, we have women here who've experienced all three and they each seem to find their own the best. Of course, then there's Toby Meltzer who's more expensive and women swear by his work as well.

I do understand the Suporn's procedure takes a good bit longer than the other two and might be more open percentage-wise to some problems. Although, apparently, most women have no problems with whomever they choose among those you named.

N~

[Anonymouse]

That is the price they have been holding for the last two years.

He is very expensive by Thai standards but he is a world class surgeon. I chose him because he was capable of excellent cosmetic and functional result when you have very little donor material. He uses scrotal skin to form the vagina and penile skin to form the labia rather than using the penile inversion technique.

One thing to consider when comparing surgeons is that he and Brassard don't need hair removal to provide a hair free vagina as they remove the follicles during surgery.

As a Suporn patient I am probably a little biased but bear in mind that I chose to pay for surgery with Suporn rather than get a basic penile inversion for free via the UK national health service. I have no regrets over spending that money.

Ann

[Sarah Louise]

Sometimes if you have blank spaces after a web link the post will not show.

All I did was put a hard return immediately after the link and the post showed.

Sarah L.

[JENNIFER]

I am not sure if this is relevent here but as a UK potential SRS candidate where by I am likely to recieve the procedures courtesy of taxation through the NHS.    I am not sure who the good surgeons are here but Mr. Bellringer comes to mind because he is mentioned most in conversation.

I am also told that genital hair removal is 'expected' before SRS is done here but I much prefer it to be done whilst my bits are in a state of disection and this is where 'The stupid Question' comes      Why must these hairs be removed? You cant see them and surely they would not survive internally anyway...??

I am sorry to come over as a Dumbie but I really do not understand why the hair is so important.......oh dear, there goes my reputation  

[Anonymouse]

I am not sure if this is relevent here but as a UK potential SRS candidate where by I am likely to recieve the procedures courtesy of taxation through the NHS.    I am not sure who the good surgeons are here but Mr. Bellringer comes to mind because he is mentioned most in conversation.

I am also told that genital hair removal is 'expected' before SRS is done here but I much prefer it to be done whilst my bits are in a state of disection and this is where 'The stupid Question' comes      Why must these hairs be removed? You cant see them and surely they would not survive internally anyway...??

I am sorry to come over as a Dumbie but I really do not understand why the hair is so important.......oh dear, there goes my reputation  

Internal hair growth is a problem because it can cause infection, make dilation and penetrative sex both painful and difficult if not impossible and quite frankly it is pretty horrible for anyone going down there. In most cases it does survive internally if not treated before or during surgery.

If you have a choice of UK surgeons Thomas has a better reputation for cosmetics, functionality and complications than Bellringer.

Hope this helps a little.

Ann

[JENNIFER]

THANK YOU ANN. Seems logical when you explain it in that way.  It shall be much nearer to the time before I can decide if 'function' is important to me given my age and likleyhood of finding a partner interested enouigh to want to go down 'there'.  I would still much prefer to have the hairs dealt with during the main operationn whilst I am asleep if it were possible but I am told that different surgeons have diifferent attitudes about this aspect of SRS 

[Laura Eva B]

Please bear in mind that with the photo's you are allowed to see of Suporn's work they are all chosen by him .... we see the same "jackpot" results year after year, presentation after presentation ....  ....

Sure Suporn does "real good" sometimes, is on par with the best most times, but I just ended up being horrified by some of the bad results and complications I saw and heard of, and the frequent tales of extra surgery being needed to rectify his work (one trip to Thailand is more than enough !).

My psych "Russell Reid", 2000+ UK TS women under his career care, begged me not to go to Suporn as he'd seen so many difficult recoveries and problematic outcomes his patients who'd gone to Suporn had had .....

Least Brassard gives no pictures on his website, and is stark in his literature as to what the outcome might be .... Brassard results are posted by happy patients, not cherry picked by the surgeon for viewfoils and advertising ....  ....

Anne Lawrence has never been able to re-instate any independent Suporn pics since she removed those two mediorcre outcomes under threat of litigation ....

Just not a Suporn fan as I don't like his drum banging about how "superior" he is, or for Thailand his plain greedy prices ....

Laura x

P.S. re-hair ... even if you discount a partner going in there and finding it Hmmm "prickly" ... it will encourage infection, make dilation painfull ... not something you want !  Brassard's technique is still looking good at two years, whereas I'm being really bothered by some hair re-growth after facial / arm laser work of the same period ....

[Anonymouse]

Laura

Your hostility towards Dr Suporns work is well know on this and other forums and you are entightled to your opinion.

However I don't feel you should have posted this picture directly into the topic. It would have been more appropriate if you had posted a link with a warning of graphic content.

Nor can it be seen as in any way typical of his work.

Just as with any other surgeon including Brassard Dr Suporn has some patients with complications although thankfully most of these are minor. I feel it is unresonable for you to make such sweeping comments about Suporn results without hard facts to back them up. Please do try and be a little more objective in your statements.

Ann

[Keira]

Ann,
regardless of Suporn's surgery skills, more
complicated ALWAYS means a higher
complication rates. This is the case
in all surgeries.

Especially when using grafts, and multiples
stiches. Healing is a somewhat random process
and the more scars you've got pulling in
all direction as they heal, the higher the
chance something will go wrong.

That's one of the reasons rhinoplasties are
so difficult, since a slight assymetry in
healing can crook the nose.

Surgeons try to make sure that
even if it doesn't heal perfectly
(since they can never be sure
how a patient's scars will react)
the cosmetic results will be adequate.

[lisagurl]

and she was twice as well endowed as me

Then why did she need skin grafts? Something is fishy here.

[Laura Eva B]

and she was twice as well endowed as me

Then why did she need skin grafts? Something is fishy here.

Who said she needed skin grafts ?

Are you privvy to more info than I know .... remember I was kicked off the Suporn group pronto and only heard the lies the mods told to "calm things down" second hand .... like the bad old "Dr Kim minder days" ?

Please PM me to discuss.

Laura x

[lisagurl]

Who said she needed skin grafts ?

You can see. I had skin grafts with Suporn he takes them from the high inner thigh. Second hand info is rarely without bias. I have never read anything about it on the S forum. I was in Thailand and experienced it myself as well as meeting and knowing many of his patients myself. He has done over 1000. The odds are 1 in 100 someone might have problems. Not all the problems are due to the surgeon's mistakes. Many come from individuals that react to the surgery or are not careful after it.

[LynnER]

KK, No one is here to do any surgeon bashing...

Just remember too do your research before choosing a surgeon.  My personal recommendation is if a Thi surgeon is close in price to there north American counterpart... Go with the north American counterpart... At least then your covered if anything goes wrong. You have no rights in Thailand... but American doctors have malpractice insurance.

In the end your choice of surgeon is your own... be prepared. Knowledge defeats ignorance... arm yourself with it... and be sure to look for more than just a surgeons website for examples of there work... look for people willing to show the bad side too. The unhappy ones are out there, you just have to find them.

[Purple Pimp]

Well, as I sit here recovering from SRS with Dr. Chettawut last Wednesday, I feel like I should add my 2 cents.  SRS is extremely expensive; it costs just under $20,000 in the US, not because the surgeons want to bleed you dry, but because medical costs (insurance, etc.) in the US are astronomical.  I can't speak for the reasons behind Canada's high prices.  Thailand, on the other hand, is much cheaper because of the relative strength of the dollar to the Thai baht.  In Thailand, one can buy a can of Coke for maybe 25 cents, a 15-minute taxi ride for $2.  This is why most Thai surgeons offer an excellent price.  This is why, because I like his aesthetic results, even if I could have afforded him, I chose not to go to Suporn.  The prices he charges are simply greedy. Now, it's one thing if he turns around and donates all that extra money that Westerners can afford to good causes, spreading the wealth, but otherwise I just find it... improper.

Lia

[lovely2008]

the same question came up in my mind for many many times before, until I saw posting by a sister in this group had I realized the question should be changed from asking the ratio of quality / price to the question of asking who is the BEST for you, regardless of the price. Anyhow, SRS is a once-in-a-lifetime experience and the result will be with you for the rest of your life.