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why men are so cruel.how can they be so insensitive:(love story update

Started by deniz, June 26, 2008, 01:45:16 AM

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deniz

i am so angry today.so angry.thank god because i prefer being angry than crying all day.
george became so cruel to me:(so insensitive:(
I did not reveal my status if that is what you thinking.But him being tired of waiting me for sex, me not meeting him with my parents, and other stuff, made him so different
the reason i am angry is that 2 months now, he had been trying for us so hard.Even when we were off he was calling crying, saying i will be the best boyfriend.do not leave me etc
and i was always on his side.in spite of my secret.My LOVE WAS SO DEEP
however, he suddenly stopped returning my calls and stoped his mesages.No reply.I though he was dead. so i called him home.He said.If you don;t change minds and atitude you will die alone ::) i am so shocked:(so angry:( so bitter:(.
have a good day everyone.Maybe god made him that way so as i can protect my life.who knows.i am in pain.but anger is good >:D
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Nero

i'm sorry he hurt you, honey. not all men will hurt you. some will love you enough to wait for you.  :icon_hug:
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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NicholeW.

Anger is good, Deniz. So much higher on the rungs of the mood ladder than depression and sorrow.

Use the anger, girl. Use it to help you climb higher on the ladder. Pretty soon you'll be back to strong, loyal to yourself, confident and vivacious woman!!

I don't think George is quite ready yet for a woman like you, not meaning TS either, meaning strong, loyal to yourself, confident and vivacious!

You go, girl!

:icon_hug:

Nichole



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deniz

thank you girls.thank you so much.Pain is not really for George only, but for the fact he was the first man in my life as a woman, treated me like a real lady(he was perfect the first year) and memories:(Memories are the most cruel thing.and i wanted to go to vacation with him:(we had made reservations. now i will have to go with someone i do not feel love or lust for.anyway.i am happy i have you. at least you know what i am going through. a lot more than a therapist.
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NicholeW.

Quote from: deniz on June 26, 2008, 02:05:29 AM
... treated me like a real lady(he was perfect the first year) and memories :( Memories are the most cruel thing.

How would someone treat you, since you are a REAL lady, Deniz? :)

You're welcome for the support. I cannot really see me doing anything else.

BTW, I hope this doesn't change how you look at me, but when I'm not on the board I am a therapist! :)

Hugs,

Nichole
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deniz

if only there were trans therapists in greece.All my therapists had been so ''plastic'' and difficult to understand.although they seemed to care
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lady amarant

Anger can be a great source of movement honey. Just be careful that it doesn't consume you by turning into hate. Move beyond George honey. You deserve SO much better.

~Simone.
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Godot

Yes men can be ->-bleeped-<-s but if anyone has ever told you that ALL men are ->-bleeped-<-s they are not all mean. (my mom told me that all men think about sex more than women..which is most of the time true but I tried to stress that not ALWAYS true) the same can go for the mean thing. They're not all mean and if your boyfriend really loves you he'll wait and not be an unfeeling person. Anger can sometimes be good in the stead of crying.
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PolarBear

I'm sorry to hear your relationship with George ended like that, Deniz.
Relationships can be tough at the best of times, when dealing with these kinds of secrets things are bound to get difficult.
I hope you will find someone you can be truly yourself with in the future.

Greetings,
PolarBear
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Audrey

ok to be honest i would write him a letter telling him the truth and explaining things.  What do you have to lose.   If he is as great and loving as you say then he may respond positively.  If he doesn't then get over it and move on.  Seriously, people aren't as cruel and heartless as we often make them out to be.

Think about it from his point of view, really put yourself in his place.

Audrey
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Lachlann

I agree with Audrey. That sounds like the best thing to do to see where things really stand, and you can get final closure.

Sometimes when people are upset, they say things they don't mean or do hurtful things. He may very well feel that way toward you, but I feel its important to always see the other side, even if it turns out it is the wrong one. And who knows? Maybe he needs help understanding.

No matter what happens though, I hope the pain doesn't stay too long. :)
Don't be scared to fly alone, find a path that is your own
Love will open every door it's in your hands, the world is yours
Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
What are you waiting for, spread your wings and soar
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deniz

well, hello and thank you all for your respone.unfortunately the pain is quite big right now, because anger has left and all all the good memories have taken its place. i feel so lonely.Yesterday, i drove all night about 300 miles away from athens and then back to athens ,and today came straght to work. While i was driving i felt this lonelyness, this bitterness, this no reason to exist feeling.things are terrible right now and if i was younger i would have done sth bad to my self.But now, i am mature enough to accept that i came to this world to suffer.I can;t keep thinking of george of this wonderful 1.5 year together.For the first time life meant sth.
George will never find out how much i love him.So much that i will never reveal my secret, since our relationship is over, and protect him from being an activist ts/gay hater for the rest of his life.I was his first love.And he loved me deep.So by  telling him, i would make him doubt about his sexuality.And he would hate that.He is so young.only 20 years old.I consider that a crime, for a boy living in an small town in greece.
i was angry, but i am not anymore.I just feel sorrow.Like a little death.How can someone have taken my george.My hope.I can not blame george though.He waited for the girl he loved to long.And this girl had always been hiding her genitals.So intimacy(sexually one) was sth that made him very sad.Sweet and sad. I hope he will find the best girl, i hope she will love her the way he did love me.Maybe i will find my way.Who knows.right now there is a big wall in front of me.
PS. the only good thing about losing george, is that i actually have achieved the body of my dreams.120 lbs and still going down.I find no pleasure in food anymore.
Have a good day everyone.
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NicholeW.

Dear Deniz,

I know that you are hurting, and your resolve not to tell George and your reasons for that, are very good. Some can fault, perhaps; I'm not one of them in this case. You will protect his innocence and his pride. Those are good things to do, I think.

You know your culture and we do not. You take the better part. :icon_hug:

But, luv, please look after yourself, dear. 120lbs seems a bit underweight. Even if it is a dream weight, to lose all you have in such a short time just doesn't seem the best thing for you to do for your own health.

Someone once said "Did I become a woman to develop an eating disorder and perhaps die?" The goal, if one has that, seems to me to defeat the purpose of the entire process of transsexing.

Please find something that will sustain you.

I can only imagine your pain and lonliness right now. I feel for you and if I could would find something to place in your heart that would soothe it. I cannot. But, you are important and have been vibrant, relishing life. If you allow yourself to live that vibrance and relish will return.

I imagine you as being much too strong to give up yourself, give up all of your dreams for the sake of one that failed to come to pass.

I also cannot say to you, "O, there are other men." No one wants to hear that in the situation you find yourself. And, for you, there will never be another George. *sigh* But, there is still life and the hope of contentment and peace for yourself. Do not, please, cast those away lightly from yourself.

You and I may never meet. Never actually see and speak with one another. But, even if that remains always true, I think I shall not forget you for a long, long time.

I find on these threads a woman with heart and with goodness and compassion and intensity. Our world could use those traits to good advantage, my dear. You make now, and will make, the world a better, easier place to live in; just find a way to maintain your virtues and allow them the chance to grow and thrive.

My respect and my care, :icon_hug:

Nichole
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