Men's Room? No Biggie.

[Elwood]

It's no big deal.

A little exciting? Sure. Because I realized it wasn't such a big deal. I was excited because I said, "Oh my God, I can do this!"

Going into the men's room isn't a big deal. I don't get in trouble and no one gives me hassle. The thing is, so many people twist it out of proportion and freak over it. You want to know the difference? It smells like piss and there's urinals on the wall. Oh, and there aren't little garbage cans in the stalls for pads and girly stuff.

Glorious, glorious piss! All this worrying, this whining, this anticipation for a pissy floor and a trough to pee in.

I guess I just wanted to post that I accidentally walked into the men's room at a Thai restaurant (the picture on the door was a guy but I couldn't tell-- it was a Thai painting) and I also used the bathroom with my dad yesterday after working at a construction site, and it wasn't a big deal at all. It didn't bug him, it didn't bug me, and the other man in the room wasn't bugged either. I didn't pee at the time because I was just washing my hands before lunch, but I was still in that bathroom for a decent amount of time before I left (I didn't want to crowd the room after I was done).

Also, just to add, my dad broke his foot in a motorcycle accident quite some time ago and hasn't fully recovered so he sometimes sits to pee. Guys don't always sit to pee because of penis issues. Just to help people with low confidence. I don't think I'll ever get a stand to pee device... it seems just inconvenient in most scenarios. Maybe I'll feel different in a few years, but right now, I have no shame in sitting to pee.

To add to my confidence, no one gave me any weird looks. I fit right in. That was a major relief.

[Chrissty]

Hey Elwood,

If we're OK to use the Ladies...feel free to use he Men's anytime..

Chrissty

[Elwood]

You're so pretty Chrissty, I wouldn't mind you coming into the men's room with me, either. Haha.

But you might get some funny looks from the guys. 

[Chrissty]

Don't mind if if I do with a good lookin' guy like you...

But I'm still struggling to work out how get the coton wool out of those dispenser buckets in the Ladies....OOps!....maybe I don't want to know....

Chrissty

[Elwood]

Haha! I've never understood those things. I tried it use it once (I was having one of those period emergencies, how awful) and the damn thing was stuck. They're useless and just take up space!

Would be cool to have flower or unicorn dispensers in the girl's room, though. That'd get the boys jealous.

[NicholeW.]

Yes, bathrooms are no big deal. Unless you're making some argument about TG/TS and need to introduce a red-herring, Elwood. Then they seem to have worth somewhat higher than gold!  

I have to say I'm very glad you enjoy the smell of pee, get used to it. It'll be an almost constant companion in a men's room as I recall. Also, as I recall just like in the women's public toilets, if you are going to sit make sure you wipe down the seat, they are often wet as I recall.

You are handsome, like Chrissty said, but not cute enough for me to go back in one.

N~

[Elwood]

LOL. I don't really like the smell of pee. I was being semi-sarcastic on that one. Haha.

Haha, well, I'm so mousy and shy sometimes I don't know what to say... I think girls belong in the girl's room anyway. Safer there. And besides, you guys get little garbage cans and the colors in the lady's room are often softer (or at least pinker, unless everything is chrome).

[trapthavok]

Glad it went so well for you. Personally, I reeeeallly want to stand to pee though if I ever get to visit the mens room. Kind of a big thing for me That's the only point I'd disagree with you on. I've done enough squatting in my lifetime (ew at the reminder of all those pee drops on the toilet seat).

[Elwood]

Glad it went so well for you. Personally, I reeeeallly want to stand to pee though if I ever get to visit the mens room. Kind of a big thing for me That's the only point I'd disagree with you on. I've done enough squatting in my lifetime (ew at the reminder of all those pee drops on the toilet seat).

It would be nice to stand to pee-- if I had a real penis. Other than that... I just don't care enough.

That's probably my depression talking. The "why do I even bother" kind of mind set.

As for squatting, forget it. I lay my ass on the seat. I'll wipe it off first if it's clearly wet. Guess I don't care much about germs if they aren't going to hurt me much. Getting some bacteria on my thighs ain't gonna kill me.

[NicholeW.]

You ain't seen nothin yet, Havok!! :laugh"

[noxdraconis]

Neither room requires much more than attitude and confidence.  As long as your eyes are not darting back and forth and you are not creeping your way through as if the Mission Impossible theme song was playing in the background no one will thing that you do not belong.  Just keep your head held high and your back straight and walk in like you know what your purpose is (taking a piss ).

[trannyboy]

In the entire time I have been using the men's room I had one problem. Early on I answered my phone and everything was bad after that. Don't talk or answer your phone in a public bathroom. Other then that wasn't a big deal.

->-bleeped-<-boy

[Elwood]

I didn't even need to feel confident. I mean, Christ, it's just takin' a piss and movin' out. Men don't tend to look at each other in the men's room much anyway.

Because it wasn't a big deal to me, no one made a big deal out of it.

[Suzy]

Because it wasn't a big deal to me, no one made a big deal out of it.

Absolutely right!  And if we could all get a handle on that, we would understand that really, people don't care nearly as much as we might imagine they do.  Virtually everyone in either rest room is just there to take care of their business and get out.  I've never met anyone ->-bleeped-<- hunting.

Kristi

[Lachlann]

Neither room requires much more than attitude and confidence.  As long as your eyes are not darting back and forth and you are not creeping your way through as if the Mission Impossible theme song was playing in the background no one will thing that you do not belong.  Just keep your head held high and your back straight and walk in like you know what your purpose is (taking a piss ).

I don't know, having a mission impossible theme might be cool!

Not sure I'm looking forward to using the mens bathroom, but the only time I use public bathrooms is when I'm on vacation or if I really have to. I was helping out at my church, cleaning the bathrooms... walked into the men's room and it smelt so bad I have to pull my shirt up to my nose. But its the bathroom that the little kids use the most, that might be why.

[Elwood]

I used to hate using public bathrooms because of my insecurity. But ->-bleeped-<-, using the man's room is so easy and not a problem. I don't think anyone cares. It makes me happy, no one cares... I'd say that's a pretty good deal.

I'd say the smell isn't really that much worse. Sometimes there's pee on the floor and that stinks but... meh. Only in there for a couple minutes anyway.

[Lachlann]

I usually find no real reason to use a public bathroom, so for me its not an insecurity thing. I could understand why it'd be that way for some and I do admit, sometimes I feel very awkward in there with all those women. And even without T and without binding, sometimes I get 'sir''d which is a bit weird because I don't look that manly... so sometimes I wonder if people kind of do a double take in the restroom.

I'm sure the smell isn't that bad. I mean, I've seen the women's bathroom in horrible condition in most places I go. So it was most likely just because of the little boys causing a mess in the bathroom I had to clean up. And you're right, its only for a couple of minutes anyway.

[Elwood]

Man, I'd hold it ALL DAY LONG.

See, I'm out a lot. A student and performer. So I often drink, drink, drink bit never pee. It's actually a bit dangerous when you hold it as long as I do. I have to have a bathroom break at least in the middle of the day.

In the women's room I have minor difficulties. The girls rarely have trouble but I have a lot trouble. They just assume I'm a lesbian.

[Joseph]

And even without T and without binding, sometimes I get 'sir''d which is a bit weird because I don't look that manly... so sometimes I wonder if people kind of do a double take in the restroom.

Yeah, it's weird.  This has been happening more and more to me lately.  I think the issue is that I dress a lot like a guy anyway (well, a lot is pretty unisex), but I've always had longish hair to keep up the ruse that I'm a girl.  Unfortunately guy hairstyles have  gotten longer and now to some people I probably look like a teenage boy.  I never thought my face looked that masculine, but I guess it looks more masculine than the average girl's.... or maybe it's more about the way you hold yourself than what you look like, to some extent.  I can't act like a girl, even if I consciously try.  But anyways, this is one issue that has gotten me thinking again about transitioning - even though I've stayed female so that I don't have to put up with being labeled a freak, some people are reading me as a guy anyway.  *shrug* I can't win.  There's no way that I'll start dressing girly in addition to keeping my hair long (which incidentally I want to friggin' shave off.)

Joseph

[Elwood]

What? Trans guys who don't want to look like guys? Now I'm TOTALLY lost.

Joe, cut your hair, man. Do it for you. Besides, if you wear eyeliner, you'll pass as a girl when you need to. For serious.  I know a gay guy who totally looks like a dude when he ain't got make up on.