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Transgender Movie: "Transamerica" (2005)

Started by Feveth, June 22, 2005, 05:38:41 AM

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Alexandra

I don't think this film is gonna get "wider distribution". :(  the theatre wasn't exactly filled when I went on opening night. An Oscar nomination from Huffman might help, but it isn't gonna catch fire like Brokeback Mt. (we'll have to wait for the DVD)

Speaking of which, Brokeback Mt is playing in the same theatre as "Transamerica" and gay viewers are flocking to it donned up in cowboy attire and hats! :)

IMO Transamerica is FAR SUPERIOR than "Normal" which I thought was not that great of a movie to begin with -- at least certainly NOT what I see when I look in a mirror. :o
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Kimberly

Quote from: Stephanie Craxford on January 21, 2006, 11:22:21 PM...
It's almost as though we are afraid to look in the mirror because we may not like what is reflected back at us.
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Hmmmm definitely points to ponder :)
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Yes indeed. Thank you for the perspective.
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Teri Anne

I saw "Transamerica" a few days ago.  Felicity was very good as a TS though, knowing what I do about the movie-sound biz, I wonder if they pitched her voice down a bit when they dubbed it.  I would presume, even if they did, that no one would admit it.

By now, I'm sure you'all know that Felicity won the Golden Globe for acting in a drama.  While I agree that she's very good, I find it interesting how people who play opposite genders in movies are often considered GREAT actors.  Is it REALLY that much of a stretch for an actor to play an opposite gender or is it society's thinking that men and women are totally opposite?  To me, the true test of great acting is to have an actor try to read dumb lines in a television drama and have them seem wonderful...lines like, "which way did he go?" or "the body is over here."

My best friend thoroughly enjoyed "Transamerica" and even saw it twice.  She was probably disappointed that I wasn't that excited about the film.  Maybe, like some of you mention, TS's aren't as excited about TS films as gays are about their films.  For me, part of it is seeing Felicity as a somewhat unattractive female or, as her husband, Bill Macey, was kind enough to say regarding her first appearance in the film, "She was butt-ugly."  Most of us don't care to re-live that period.  My comment to my friend, after the movie, was, "I hope that we'll reach a point of acceptance where being TS isn't something novel or fascinating to society.  I can't wait for society to become bored with us and will just let us be.

Teri Anne
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beth

              Huffman's performance is great. I found her character and look endearing, that is what made the film. There are few lines that show the writters or directors did not completely understand the subject. It is a good film that features a great performance. Overall it is worth seeing for the transsexual, just expect some disappointments, tears and lots of laughs.
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Leigh

 

I have been there and lived it complete with a son.  Its ironic that the first time my son and I got together after I started transition we went on a road trip together

I just can't see why I would want to revisit through pictures a place that I have walked in real life.

Leigh
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Sheila

I just got through seeing Transamerica. I really didn't care for it that much. I think they could have done a better job with it. I just didn't see the reality in it. There were parts that just weren't true, while transitioning. Well, that is my opinion of the movie.
Sheila
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Valerie

Quote from: Sheila on March 05, 2006, 06:35:07 PM
I just got through seeing Transamerica. I really didn't care for it that much. I think they could have done a better job with it. I just didn't see the reality in it. There were parts that just weren't true, while transitioning. Well, that is my opinion of the movie.
Sheila
Sheila, if you're not opposed to the idea, would you mind sharing those things that you viewed as inaccurate?  It would be a help to GG's such as myself to be able to discern such things...

Valerie
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Teri Anne

Towards the beginning of the movie, the psychologist witholds the approval letter for SRS just because she didn't like how the TS relates to her newly found wayward son.  I found that verrrry annoying.  Not only do TS's have to jump through hoops in the RLT but now docs get to rule on how a TS should get along with a son the doc has never met?  I would hope that no doc would act that way but I guess I've heard worse -- docs that demand that, as part of RLT, that the TS dress in a stereotypically feminine way -- ie dresses, makeup.  Many GG's don't have to wear dresses and makeup to be considered women yet some rogue psych's I've heard demand it if you want THE LETTER.

Teri Anne
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beth

            The film was far from perfect but then a film about any subject that one knows a lot about is always far from perfect.

            I thought there were true moments to go along with the unlikely. The fact that she had 2 jobs, one that started as a dish washer and one telemarketing had an honest ring. The relationship with her family rang true although it was exaggerated to be humorous. The two doctors acted a bit strange as Terri Anne said but it did imply that we do have to jump through hoops and pretend to be "mentally ill" so that plastic surgery can cure the mental illness.

I just loved the main character, she was funny, vulnerable, strong and her heart was in the right place.


beth
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stephanie_craxford

Quote from: Leigh on March 04, 2006, 09:57:00 AM


I have been there and lived it complete with a son.  Its ironic that the first time my son and I got together after I started transition we went on a road trip together

I just can't see why I would want to revisit through pictures a place that I have walked in real life.

Leigh

I tend to agree Leigh.  I was initially hyped to see the movie but the feeling has cooled some what.  I'm pressently going through this with my daughter, hopefully with a happy outcome.  Hmmmm seems it would be like looking in the mirror and that could be scary :)

Steph

Steph
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andy

Towards the beginning of the movie, the psychologist witholds the approval letter for SRS just because she didn't like how the TS relates to her newly found wayward son.  I found that verrrry annoying.

I know, that bugged the heck out of me.  I found that part pretty unbelievable, as well as that Bree would have had a son she was never informed about, a son who knew her name and never attempted to contact her until he was seventeen and in prison.

The two doctors acted a bit strange as Terri Anne said but it did imply that we do have to jump through hoops and pretend to be "mentally ill" so that plastic surgery can cure the mental illness.

I agree...I did like Bree's response to the Psychiatrist when he said that Trannsexualism is considered a serious mental illness..."Funny that a mental illness can be cured with plastic surgery".  Perhaps it will cause some people to think a little bit.
It had it's flaws but I very much enjoyed the film.  It's a topic that is almost never seen on the big screen and it was handled in a sensitive manner.  I wish that it had enjoyed a wider distribution.  How long has this film been out, and it only just arrived in my city ten days ago! 
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Sheila

Lets see, my memory is not that good so I will try and remember some things. As mentioned before, the letter. She was going to receive it just before surgery? I would have thought, I know in my case, she would have had the letter and would have given it to the surgeon long before that. Also the psychologists way of talking with her on being a mental case. I don't know if anyone saw this, but you have to go off your hormones for 2 weeks before surgery and at least 2 weeks after. She was on hormones right up until surgery. When she was in the bath tub at the last of the picture, I would have assumed that was right after surgery, she had pubic hair and was not the least bit swollen. Then there was the time she went pee outside the car. Also, she had these low paying jobs and she was going to LA for surgery, one the the most expensive places for surgery. Oh, and that party, those stents for dialating. WHOA! I don't think I would have used one of those after surgery. Maybe a year afterwards, anyway for me.
   I know it was just a movie and it did address transsexualism and I liked that.
Sheila
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Kate

Quote from: Sheila on March 10, 2006, 10:42:39 AMOh, and that party, those stents for dialating.

I think that entire scene was kinda unfortunate. For the non-TS viewer, it gave the impression that transsexualism is a kind of hobby or lifestyle where members get together to compare the new female parts they had installed. It reminded me of when men get together to talk about cars.
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Valerie

I saw the movie Sunday evening with a few friends.  I'm really glad I invited them.  We had dinner before walking over to the theatre.  Ana proposed a toast.  She said, "To friends....to Transamerica...to transition...to trans-people...to trans-everything."  That made me smile big inside.  After the movie, they all 3 thanked me, saying they hadn't previously known that it was showing in our town.

I was particularly disturbed by the scene after the party, in the bedroom when Bree apologizes to Toby for the behaviour of 'those ersatz women'.  I think the character only called them phony as a self-preservation tactic, so that she wouldn't betray to Toby any hint that she was one of them, but I think it might portray to some movie-goers that transexual women are somehow phony...it may also be a reflection of the scriptwriter's lack of understanding of the subject. 

I think the bathtub scene was supposed to have taken place after a passage of time....after all, they showed Toby's progress in the film industry, also... I think they were just showing how both Bree and Toby had gone on with their lives without each other...

Just my 2 cents' worth....

Valerie
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Kate

Quote from: Valerie on March 10, 2006, 11:55:41 AMI was particularly disturbed by the scene after the party, in the bedroom when Bree apologizes to Toby...

Ah yes, that was the other questionable scene: when Toby holds up the nightgown to himself in the mirror.

I know it's only natural curiousity and all, but I fear everyone now thinks that exposing their kids to transsexuals will "corrupt" them.
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Teri Anne

Kate, you wrote, "For the non-TS viewer, it gave the impression that transsexualism is a kind of hobby or lifestyle where members get together to compare the new female parts they had installed."  Good point.  I've been to several TG groups in L.A. and never came across a group like that.  Even at a private party, we all just talked about a variety of things including politics, movies and global warming.  You know, "normal" stuff.

Sheila, you get the most points for noticing all the things that seem contrary to reality!  I hadn't noticed the hormones right before surgery.  Yikes!  And, you're right.  The LETTER would have had to have been received by the doc to even schedule the surgery.  And, yes, L.A. has a ridiculously expensive SRS surgeon.

Valerie, ohhh gosh you're so correct!  I don't have a religious conservative right mind but yeah, I can just feel them cringing at seeing Toby hold the female nightgown up.  It's like a DISEASE.  Look out society!  Forget about bird flu!  Lock the kids in the closet for their own good.  And, as the Pope said the other day, don't let kids get adopted by gays, either -- or they'll catch that too!

Teri Anne
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beatrix

I hope that this is OK to reply to such an old topic, but I think a lot of the comments addressed here are good, so it's kind of like a free "bump" up.  Okay . . .

So, I saw this on DVD Sunday, and, honestly, I really liked it.  I'm pretty sure I'm not TS (see my introduction if you want that spiel), but I thought it was really well done.  Huffman did a great job, I think, and should have won some award for her efforts.  Though the nuts and bolts of the process weren't 100 accurate (the letter, the psychiatrist, L.A., etc.), I was willing to let those slide because they served to move the story along.

And I usually am pretty picky about my movies and their realism, but any expert in a given field will find holes.  A knife and gun enthusiast friend of mine is horrible to see action movies with, and I'm kind of bad about when characters discuss literature.  We must divorce ourselves and our own pickiness from the truly bad and egregious errors and performances. 

There was a line that went something along the lines of "I am a transsexual, not a ->-bleeped-<-."  I took that as part of the conservative-ness of Brie's character, not the movie's statement.

On that note, the party was a bad scene.  I would have liked it all toned down a bit, giving a bit in to the social-ness that we're expressing here, but more subtle.  That was one of the few campy moments, and I don't really care for camp.

The nightgown scene.  I tied that together with the boy's continued experimentation with, you know, everything sexual.  The boys, the girls, the prostitution, the search for identity that teenagers (and some adults) are going through.  I guess I really identified with the boy, and that helped.

That's all for now.  It's time for beauty sleep for me.
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stephanie_craxford

Hello Beatrix.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with replying to old topics, resurrecting them if you like, you just have to be sure that your reply is relevant to the issue that was being discussed.  And yours is :)

Steph
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Louise

My wife and I saw this film on DVD last night.  If you have not yet seen it I highly recommend it.  Felicity Huffman plays the role of Bree in a very believable way.  She brings a touch of masculinity to the role.  Many of the other characters are little more than stereotypes, but on the whole the film does a good job of presenting the experience of being transgender in a very credible fashion.
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