Transaction Formation – is the Transgender Movement Gynophobic and Misogynistic

[Natasha]

Transaction Formation – is the Transgender Movement Gynophobic and Misogynistic by it's Very Nature?

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by catkisser
8/18/2008

Those that call themselves "transgendered" are particularly fond of definitions and often reframe them in terms to promote personal agendas in the face of the actual meanings. Let's examine that term "->-bleeped-<-" and see if it does not better reflect the "transgender" crowd as an "umbrella" term and what meanings and personal philosophies hide behind transgender/->-bleeped-<- choice of terminology. What I propose is that this group is actually gynophobic and misogynistic by it's very nature and word choice despite the claims to the contrary.

[Elwood]

What ignorant things have been said here... Being transgendered and being a cross dresser are two different things. For instance, I wear men's clothes, but I don't consider myself to be a cross dresser, because this is my projection of my gender identity. I like to consider cross dressers thespians; they are only girls or boys while they're dressed up. Boy by day, girl by night.

The thing is, I don't see what's misogynistic about a transgirl (or in the opinion of this other, a man) enjoying girl's things. Does that mean that all women who dress like tomboys hate men because they aren't willing to "give up" their female label? I might be wrong on this, but don't most transgirls want to be legally female and completely get rid of their male label?

Anyway, I do agree when the point that attacking transwomen is no different than attacking any woman. To refer to a transwoman's genitals as some mutilation is in my opinion a sort of female hatred. Some people think I'm a man hater because I don't like phalloplasty; the difference between phalloplasties and vaginoplasties, however, is that at least transgirl SRS looks good. I've seen pics that I swear pass very well. Phallos look like swollen, blood-filled bratwursts. Vaginoplasty? Looks like the real deal if you've got a good doctor.

[Shana A]

I'm not a ->-bleeped-<-, however if, as a transgender identified person, I'm expected to be allied with anyone else's struggle for equal rights, then I proudly stand with drag queens, thank you very much! We wouldn't have bupkes without them in the front lines back in the 60s.

Z

[NicholeW.]

Cathy makes a good argument, until she's faced with this. Then it becomes a bit different when the basic core o your on argument is used to invalidate you, Yes, Andrea used "transgender" but read for awhile and and you'll be hard=pressed to discover any distinctions in her mind between "transsexual" and "transgender."

I don't wanna break bread with someone, no one forces me to break bread with them. I think that's the very point that is generally missed in the anti-transgender diatribes. People are always left with choice and no one needs to protect my womanhood: it simply is a fact, Boo!

Nichole

Posted on: August 18, 2008, 08:39:09 PMI must give Cathy credit where it is due though. She keeps to the same message: over and over and over and over again. Never varies, never discovers a new trope or a new idea. The same fixed notion she's had for a couple of years now.