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Gay Transphobia? Gee…That’s Never Happened

Started by Hazumu, August 19, 2008, 07:08:57 PM

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Hazumu

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A great LGBT community deserves full inclusion


QuoteI've said it before, and I'll say it over and over again until the Homosexual Repugnancy Cabal gets me shipped to Gitmo: More than anything else, the reason we need trans-inclusivity in ENDA is the REALITY of discrimination against trans people BY GAYS! I do not fear life under HRC's ENDA because of the possibility of facing heterosexual rightwingnut employers; I fear facing the same people who fight tooth-and-nail to keep me out of ENDA.  I think an overwhelming majority don't give a ->-bleeped-<- about themselves being discriminated against by heterosexual rightwingnuts, but they are deathly afraid of life as legal equals to transsexuals and other trans folk.
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Elwood

For serious. I've met quite a lot of gay boys and they won't have anything to do with me. Lesbians and bi girls, however, seem to be much more accepting. But I think some of them like me because they think I'm a butch girl. But I'm not. More people need to get educated on gender variance, seriously.
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Hazumu

Quote from: Elwood on August 19, 2008, 07:11:11 PM
For serious. I've met quite a lot of gay boys and they won't have anything to do with me. Lesbians and bi girls, however, seem to be much more accepting. But I think some of them like me because they think I'm a butch girl. But I'm not. More people need to get educated on gender variance, seriously.
Dude, you're spot-on.

And...

You can go to Michfest.  I can't.

What's wrong with that picture?

Karen
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Elwood

Quote from: Karen on August 19, 2008, 07:17:09 PMYou can go to Michfest.  I can't.

What's wrong with that picture?
...Absolutely everything.   :icon_blah:
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Ms Bev

I get along great in the world with gay folk.  Oh yeah, that's right.....I'm gay too! 
BUTT......
(and it's quite a nice one)
.....some of them also see me as trans, but treat me like family.
The only problem I've had was one couple (lesbian) would have nothing to do with me, not because I am trans, but because I'm transsexual lesbian, a ->-bleeped-<- dyke, and another lesbian couple who had an argument, and never came back, because one thought I was flirting with her partner.  On the other hand, I have lots of customers that seek me out, because I'm lesbian, or because I'm queer, and also because I have a good reputation.  One of my male customers chuckled, and asked, "Do you sell to all the gay boys, Bev?"  A nearby young girlfriend of mine shook her head, smiled, and said "yep!". 
It's not unusual to see me selling in a small cluster of female couples, and it's quite apparent that we get along fine.
I usually end up being the one to break the ice, and we all end up talking about stuff.....partner stuff, other related stuff.  Always, we share things we have in common.

Now.....the only gay males that seem to dislike me are young (so far).  There is one in particular I can think of. He knows all too well that I am ts.  Every time this young 'guy' sees me, he actually looks away.  My theory is that he hates 'looking into the mirror'. 
He doesn't hate me.  He hates what I am, what he might be.
Otherwise, I disagree, based on my own experience.  I feel quite included as family.
1.) If you're skating on thin ice, you might as well dance. 
Bev
2.) The more I talk to my married friends, the more I
     appreciate  having a wife.
Marcy
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