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Started by gothique11, August 21, 2008, 08:23:29 AM

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gothique11

Okay, I swear I'm not sex obsessed, considering my recent posts.. but I had to ask this  >:D

You know, I always heard/read that you don't really get self-lube -- or if you do, it can take a long time before you get any and there's hardly any.

In my case, I find when I'm turned on there's a lot. I don't even use lube when I'm turned on because I've got plenty going around (more than a few of my ex gf's, to be honest). Then, when I orgasm, i just gush out with a tons more (I usually have to go clean off when I'm done as there's a lot of, er, juice... and no, it's not pee, it's clear, sticky, tastes like it should...) 

So, where is it coming from?

Okay, I know that it's some kind of gland (bulbourethral gland / Cowper's gland) somewhere that is a reminate of the boy parts. But I thought went with with the poison factories? Or would be damaged when playing with the urethra or creating the neo-vagina? I can understand it causing the gushing part, but is it producing while I'm turned on as well... or are the vaginal walls producing something, too. They walls inside seem to always be wet, and they don't seem to dry out with action.

I was just wondering. I kinda have an idea... although I'll have to say the amount of self-lube has me surprised.
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Northern Jane

For the first 5 to 10 years after SRS, lubrication was never a problem. As I got older, "I needed help". The lubrication would still come but it took longer and there wasn't as much. Now, after 34 years, lubrication is slow (though still abundant right before orgasm). All in all, from what I hear from my women friends, this is all pretty normal.
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JENNIFER

You know, I am really cheered up reading this thread.  I am possibly 2 years away from SRS and have been worried about natural lubrication and whether a man would notice anything different from Natal females down there.   :-\
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vanna

yes i must admit this is a kind of cheery post to me too,

now if only gothique11 would stop making the rest of us insanely jealous of her V while we wait to get ours:P
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tinkerbell

Yes, prior to SRS, I had also heard all this "manure" from people.  "Post-ops don't self-lubricate, you need to have had the sigmoid vaginoplasty for that"  ::) Well, sorry but that is not the case.

Quote from: NatalieOkay, I swear I'm not sex obsessed, considering my recent posts.. but I had to ask this

Of course not.  You are just asking the right questions, questions that some of us are just a wee bit shy to ask about  ;)

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Sheila

Before transitioning, I heard a lot of "manure" about different things. It never turned out to be true.
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JENNIFER

Quote from: Sheila on August 21, 2008, 04:43:14 PM
Before transitioning, I heard a lot of "manure" about different things. It never turned out to be true.

I would agree. Pre-transition, I was scared witless about all sorts of things, mostly about reactions from persons unknown to me. Reality is that for me, no-one cares. I work hard not to stand out and attract unwelcome attention and I see a few other transfolk locally perhaps missing the point and getting abused and ridiculed as a consequence.

As for the 'manure' that some of us relate, I have yet to become aquainted with it.  Yes, I get a hard time from some people, mainly the younger members of the community but I never let it get me down.  The important thing for me here in relation to this thread is that I/WE get accurate and honest information about the consequences of transition, surgery, legal niceties etc....it may allow us all to get a peaceful night's sleep sometimes  :)
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Elwood

All I have to say is that what you're experiencing is what is typical for a female. I know. I hate the fact that things are wet even if I'm completely turned off. I have to always wear some sort of panty liner so my underwear doesn't get moist. Very uncool.

Last time I wore boxers, vagina snot ran down my leg. D:< I won't be wearing them again until T. I wear briefs for now (finally got "real" boy's briefs).
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Northern Jane

Quote from: Elwood on August 21, 2008, 05:46:09 PM
All I have to say is that what you're experiencing is what is typical for a female.

Are you going to tell them the rest Elwood?  ;)

In the first year after SRS I worked in a small office by myself. My office opened into a space where two young service technicians worked (in their 20's). It was summer time so I was wearing a short skirt and some kind of top and I had a leather covered stool to sit on.

It was Monday morning, VERY quite in the office, and I guess the boys forgot I was just around the corner because they started talking about how they pleasure their wives. I wasn't consciously listening - I was doing paperwork - but I guess my subconscious was taking in the conversation. After an hour or so, when I went to get up from my stool, there was this GOD-AWFUL SLURRRP!  :o The stool was SOAKED, my dress was SOAKED, the boys knew I was there and must have been listening and they KNEW how it effected me. I have never been so embarrassed in my life! Neither they nor I ever mentioned the incident again  ;D
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gothique11

Quote from: Northern Jane on August 21, 2008, 06:48:05 PM
Quote from: Elwood on August 21, 2008, 05:46:09 PM
All I have to say is that what you're experiencing is what is typical for a female.

Are you going to tell them the rest Elwood?  ;)

In the first year after SRS I worked in a small office by myself. My office opened into a space where two young service technicians worked (in their 20's). It was summer time so I was wearing a short skirt and some kind of top and I had a leather covered stool to sit on.

It was Monday morning, VERY quite in the office, and I guess the boys forgot I was just around the corner because they started talking about how they pleasure their wives. I wasn't consciously listening - I was doing paperwork - but I guess my subconscious was taking in the conversation. After an hour or so, when I went to get up from my stool, there was this GOD-AWFUL SLURRRP!  :o The stool was SOAKED, my dress was SOAKED, the boys knew I was there and must have been listening and they KNEW how it effected me. I have never been so embarrassed in my life! Neither they nor I ever mentioned the incident again  ;D


LOL Yeah, I sometimes get wet randomly which gets annoying. And when I'm thinking of certain things. :P

Posted on: August 22, 2008, 01:41:38 AM
Quote from: Tink on August 21, 2008, 02:33:00 PM
Yes, prior to SRS, I had also heard all this "manure" from people.  "Post-ops don't self-lubricate, you need to have had the sigmoid vaginoplasty for that"  ::) Well, sorry but that is not the case.


Yeah, I keep finding that's the case. I was told a lot that self-lube isn't possible, and if there is any there's hardly any at all, etc, etc, etc. Same thing with a g-spot (which is there), and a few other things that I was told or thought and found out was untrue.
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peggygee

I find that I am able to get moist and self lube when I am aroused as well.

This most likely is due to two factors.

1. The Cowpers gland, which is part of the prostate gland, and is not
removed during GRS, continues to secrete fluids, and aids in vaginal
lubrication of the post op.



2. Also I utilize Premarin cream in my vagina, as an Estrogen supplement
thus my vagina tends to be fairly moist.




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tinkerbell

Quote from: Aiden on August 30, 2008, 12:59:06 PM
Geh I hate lubricating.  Tends to happen a lot for no reason at all.  Will it stop when on T I wonder?  or am I going be stuck with being wet between legs all time and unable to wear stuff way would like to.  sighs

I think this is an entirely different topic/question that perhaps should be asked under the FTM forums since this thread is addressed to post-op transsexual women!

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Aiden

Sorry removed.   Didn't know it was only for post op women.  Maybe should label it next time to indicate that
Every day we pass people, do we see them or the mask they wear?
If you live under a mask long enough, does it eventually break or wear down?  Does it become part you?  Maybe alone, they are truly themselves?  Or maybe they have forgotten or buried themselves so long, they forget they are not a mask?
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JENNIFER

Quote from: Tink on August 30, 2008, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Aiden on August 30, 2008, 12:59:06 PM
Geh I hate lubricating.  Tends to happen a lot for no reason at all.  Will it stop when on T I wonder?  or am I going be stuck with being wet between legs all time and unable to wear stuff way would like to.  sighs

I think this is an entirely different topic/question that perhaps should be asked under the FTM forums since this thread is addressed to post-op transsexual women!

tink :icon_chick:

I am sorry, and whilst I respect your status as moderator without question, I believe Aiden may have helped me and others with this matter and made a very relevent contribution to this subject, and I care not what area of this board it may reside. I would never have entered the F to M domain to find out this information Tink so please give us all a chance  :(.

Whilst my passions have been aroused, may I ask any medically qualified persons here, be it general, pathology or anatomy please tell us if the same glands exist in males and females, by whatever latin or technical name, and exist in order to provide lubrication for sexual purposes?  My pre-existing medical condition may mean hormone therapy may be cut short or even bypassed in favour of an early SRS operation and I shall need to be armed with the best information if I have to see the surgeon any time soon.  Like all patients facing this operation, I want the best bits retained and the chaff disposed of because I want to be as much a woman as possible given my age etc.... :embarrassed:
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tinkerbell

While I respect your opinion, Jennifer, I am not sure if this thread is the appropriate place to discuss such matters since it is posted under
Post-operative life.  Perhaps starting a new thread and addressing your questions there would be more helpful?  Just a thought!

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JENNIFER

Quote from: Tink on August 30, 2008, 04:03:41 PM
While I respect your opinion, Jennifer, I am not sure if this thread is the appropriate place to discuss such matters since it is posted under
Post-operative life.  Perhaps starting a new thread and addressing your questions there would be more helpful?  Just a thought!

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You have read my post and responded and for that I thank you. My views stand and your comments are duly noted with utmost respect. :)
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Aiden

This is the first time I've been been shut out of wondering about something about post op in the post op area, and why is Elwood allowed to comment in here and I'm not? 

Maybe I'm just not wanted around here at all.  I've never cared about rep, but when you look one day and it's blindly obvious that everyone else is respected more makes me wonder what I've done wrong or if my presence here is even wanted.
Every day we pass people, do we see them or the mask they wear?
If you live under a mask long enough, does it eventually break or wear down?  Does it become part you?  Maybe alone, they are truly themselves?  Or maybe they have forgotten or buried themselves so long, they forget they are not a mask?
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Nero

Quote from: Aiden on August 30, 2008, 05:09:03 PM
This is the first time I've been been shut out of wondering about something about post op in the post op area, and why is Elwood allowed to comment in here and I'm not? 

Maybe I'm just not wanted around here at all.  I've never cared about rep, but when you look one day and it's blindly obvious that everyone else is respected more makes me wonder what I've done wrong or if my presence here is even wanted.

Don't take it personal, man. Part of our job as mods is to ensure things don't go off topic and such. So generally if you have a question unrelated to the topic, you're encouraged to start a new one, partly out of respect to the OP and partly because you're more likely to get better replies to your questions in it's own separate topic.

There's no favoritism here or anything. And the rep system just means your post caught someone's eye and they thought it was particularly enlightening or otherwise helpful. It's not a popularity contest. You are very much wanted here.  :)
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Aiden

Quote from: Nero on August 30, 2008, 06:29:01 PM
Quote from: Aiden on August 30, 2008, 05:09:03 PM
This is the first time I've been been shut out of wondering about something about post op in the post op area, and why is Elwood allowed to comment in here and I'm not? 

Maybe I'm just not wanted around here at all.  I've never cared about rep, but when you look one day and it's blindly obvious that everyone else is respected more makes me wonder what I've done wrong or if my presence here is even wanted.

Don't take it personal, man. Part of our job as mods is to ensure things don't go off topic and such. So generally if you have a question unrelated to the topic, you're encouraged to start a new one, partly out of respect to the OP and partly because you're more likely to get better replies to your questions in it's own separate topic.

There's no favoritism here or anything. And the rep system just means your post caught someone's eye and they thought it was particularly enlightening or otherwise helpful. It's not a popularity contest. You are very much wanted here.  :)


Well feeling like I'm not writing anything helpful doesn't really make me feel better.  lol

But am sorry for intruding.   I didn't even realize this was a post-op area when posted that.  I tend to open everything want to read up before going down the line and don;t always know what area their in
Every day we pass people, do we see them or the mask they wear?
If you live under a mask long enough, does it eventually break or wear down?  Does it become part you?  Maybe alone, they are truly themselves?  Or maybe they have forgotten or buried themselves so long, they forget they are not a mask?
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Nero

Many people may have found posts helpful but just didn't think to give a thumbs up.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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