female-presenting androgyne dillema...

[Bibi]

Soooooooo...

It's me again,lol...
And with the same exact question,again and again...
Like some of you already know,i'm an androgyne,a transgender androgyne...Wich mean that even if inside i feel androgyne i want to live as a female,kinda...I don't want to look androgynous...I want to dress like a female and live like one but feeling andro inside as well...So i want to be a female-presenting androgyne...
a female presenting woman and a female presenting male...
Do someone here feel this way?
I find it hard to find peoples like that...I know they are some,but never they seem to want to lives this way...

ps-Also,i'm not interested in hormones or surgeries...

[Nicky]

I take it you are male bodied.

What exactly is the dillema? Is the dillema that you can't achive a female presentation without hormones or surgery? But you said you are not interested in these things... I'm just interested in knowing more so I can better understand your situation.

I think it is perfectly ok to have an androgyne internal identity and want to present as female. Sounds perfectly reasonable. There are some good social benefits to this if you can pass convinicingly rather than looking inbetween.  I think I would prefer to look like a woman rather than a man but I don't think I could act like one.

[Bibi]

Hi!

Thanx for the reply!
Actually,my dillema is that even if my female side is more present i find it hard to not be "whole"...I mean...Sometime i wish i could feel only female,but it's not the case...Like someone once said,beign an androgyne is like beign a part-time ts...They are day when you can feel just female,and then you feel female,male,etc...But i try to learn from that...

And for passing i think that i'm lucky...Most of the time i pass just as a female,even if my voice is very low...

[Nicky]

I think I understand. I sometimes feel like half a person, like I am missing something that everyone else has. I want to be a recognisably definit something but I don't really know what that is. I want to feel connected.
I can look like a man but I don't feel like I am a real boy. I would prefer to look more like a woman but I won't ever feel like a complete female. I don't know how to address this. I think it would be easier if we were a recognised group in society and then I could say "I am one of them, totally, I am complete".

I think as long as you are happy presenting as female and being treated as female keep doing what you do.

Maybe we won't be whole untill we make a place for ourselves in society.

[Pica Pica]

I think it would be easier if we were a recognised group in society and then I could say "I am one of them, totally, I am complete".

I think as long as you are happy presenting as female and being treated as female keep doing what you do.

Maybe we won't be whole untill we make a place for ourselves in society.

That's where I am in all this.

Sometimes I feel the way you feel, that i would prefer to live as an androgyne female, but mostly i just want to live as an androgyne.

[Shion]

I think I have kinda the same thing going on. Except opposite. If I hadn't found out about androgynes, I probably would've eventually put myself into the non-op FtM category. Now, I feel androgynous on the inside, but physically I'd rather be seen as male. Ideally I'd rather be seen as neither or both, but most people are so used to binary genders that they would mentally assign genders anyway. I'll probably still be a rather androgynous looking guy, but I'd prefer that as opposed to being seen as a girl.

I agree with what Nicky said. I guess in the end the most important thing is to find something that you can be most comfortable with.

[JonasCarminis]

sounds perfectly logical to me.  it seems like being an androgyne is more of a state of mind than anything.