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Started by foreversarah, September 17, 2008, 04:56:20 PM

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foreversarah

Hi,

I have a theory of the reasons of my possible transsexuality, and was wondering if anybody could tell me where in the brain the different aspects of male and female are. Thanks.

Sarah
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tekla

I'm not sure other than women's brains are in their heads while men's brains are somewhere further south.
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Constance

Quote from: tekla on September 17, 2008, 05:17:15 PM
I'm not sure other than women's brains are in their heads while men's brains are somewhere further south.
So, would men in the southern hemisphere have brains further north?

Posted on: September 17, 2008, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: foreversarah on September 17, 2008, 04:56:20 PM
Hi,

I have a theory of the reasons of my possible transsexuality, and was wondering if anybody could tell me where in the brain the different aspects of male and female are. Thanks.

Sarah
Seriously, though. What do you mean by "male and female?" Are you refering to physiology or gender identity?

foreversarah

Hi,

I mean how our brain works in making us masculine or feminine.

Sarah
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Constance

Quote from: foreversarah on September 17, 2008, 05:31:31 PM
Hi,

I mean how our brain works in making us masculine or feminine.

Sarah
I'm really not trying to pick nits, but what precisely do you mean? Physically masculine/feminine, or psycologically masculine/feminine? I ask because it is the brain that (as far as I know) that governs one's physical develeopment. And, the psychological is really due to the physical development of the brain, too.

Flan Princess

Quote from: foreversarah on September 17, 2008, 04:56:20 PM
I have a theory of the reasons of my possible transsexuality, and was wondering if anybody could tell me where in the brain the different aspects of male and female are. Thanks.
Doesn't exist and nobody knows how the brain becomes "masculine" or "feminine", or why the behaviour. (yet)
(apart from social constructs...)
Just my .02 dollars...
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foreversarah

Hi,

Sorry i meant psycholigically. For example our eyesight is controlled by two ares in the bak of our head.

Sarah

Posted on: September 17, 2008, 11:48:23 PM
Doesn't exist and nobody knows how the brain becomes "masculine" or "feminine", or why the behaviour. (yet)
(apart from social constructs...)
Just my .02 dollars...
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Hi,

Really? I thought it had been found that the male and female brains were a different shape.

Sarah
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icontact

Often I feel like gender never really existed. Certain brains feel more comfortable in a certain style of dress and manner, and thus the idea of genders was conceived.
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Flan Princess

Quote from: foreversarah on September 17, 2008, 05:50:43 PM
Hi,

Really? I thought it had been found that the male and female brains were a different shape.

Sarah

I've heard something about the mass of mens and womens brains differ slightly, and that the hypothalamus is sexually dimorphic, but nothing like that.
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Lutin

QuoteI'm not sure other than women's brains are in their heads while men's brains are somewhere further south.
QuoteSo, would men in the southern hemisphere have brains further north?
Ha! :P

As to actual brain differences, I read somewhere recently that they've found that straight women's brains and gay men's brains are similar, while straight men's brains and lesbians' brains are similar, if that helps your theory any... http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080616-gay-brain.html (It's a two-page article).
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Seshatneferw

One pretty good starting point would be Zoe Brain's blog article on just this issue from last summer. Read it and get hooked on her blog. :)

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NicholeW.

OMG!! :laugh: :laugh: A shameless plug for my friend Zoe's blog. Zoe has it together and her research, from the beginning of her unexpected self-change from male to female has been deep, wide and thorough. She's an excellent place to begin.

I don't think male/female brains are "shaped" differently, but fMRIs appear to show that different places "light-up" between men and women when similar stimuli are used. In other words we use different parts of our brains in similar circumstances. The major biological differences appear to revolve around vision and how we perceive "field," (men focus on points better and women tend to be field-viewers, it's thought that this may be a result of the long ago division of labor between hunter and gatherer. Hunters require an ability to focus on prey, gatherers require a scanning field-vision in order to be successful.)

Women tend to have better senses of texture and more refined color vision, somewhat more subtle odor-detection systems than do men. Women tend to have a better linguistic capability and more interface between the bi-cameral sides: more cross-information processing between left and right brains.

Men tend to have a larger capacity and women tend to have denser neuronal make-ups: that fact pretty much seems to mean that either can function to the same degree in pretty much all areas. Women tend, psycho-socially to be more attuned to "communion" (feeling/sharing/relationship) and men more attuned to "agency" (doing something about an event.) Women have a different flight/fight response tending to gather and face in response to being startled and also tend to flee more quickly than males. Hormonal changes have been shown to "re-wire" most of these functions and the ways they play-out.

The topic is vast and can be interesting, but it is also a rather infant-study so not a lot is hard and fast as science at present. But differences do appear to be there between sexes, in-born differences, not experientially-derived  ones. But there is no one pattern that fits all members of a sex. There is overlap and variation that means that some women are not like most and some men are not like most and in some areas there is so much overlap that no sexual-dimorphism can be drawn at all.

This is not a bad thing, that overlap, instead it is probably an extraordinarily good thing as human beings, mirrored among mammals only by leopards, have the smallest variation betwen individuals in DNA/RNA make-up. In other words, we are all about 99% alike and in comparison to other intra-species variations in other mammals show a huge deal of "inter-bredding" and a rather limited gene-pool from which to derive variation.

Evolution, being driven in large part by a species' variations and how those variations allow continuity and survival in the face of unexpected events called "punctuated equilibrium," places a certain value on differentiation that humans have less than than do chimpanzees and even gorillas, let alone dogs, cats, even elephants.

Nice topic.

Nichole     
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foreversarah

Hi,

Although my theory is personal, I'll explain it anyway.

When I was born I was born with a cyste in the right hand side of my head, this had to be removed and I had a shunt put in place.

I was wondering if this would have caused something to do with my transsexuality.

Sarah
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NicholeW.

I thought there must be some personal aspect to this. Nice to hear what it is, Sarah.

I doubt you'll ever be able to determine that with the state of the art being what it is now and in the foreseeable future.

I suppose that could be a reason, but I think the question we should all ask regarding environmntal estrogen, DES, brain cysts, etc, is, does it really matter where it came from as much as it matters how I deal with and live into what I have right now?

Zoe, for instance, didn't expect her hormone cascade to occur in her mid forties and watched her body change dramatically within literally weeks! Yet, she responded to what was going on and later tried to find reasons for what was going on and seems totally adjusted to whom she is at the moment.

I think that's a good rule-of-thumb for all of us: we have to deal with what's here, not how it came about. Later is time to cinsider and discover the hows, perhaps.

But that is just me and certainly not a prescription for everyone. Do and find what comforts you, luv. Only you can know and experience your own life. :icon_hug:

Nichole
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foreversarah

Hi,

Thanks for that Nicole. :)

Lifes been rough for me in the last year, failed my A-levels, foot operation, severe kidney pain (through polycystic kidneys) and being unable to see my friends as often as I could. It's not really bad, but I am a lucky person - close family, good friends and a (now) good education.
I realised how lucky I was when I saw a person recently who was having a leg lengthening operation. She is really short and so has to wear a cage that slowly lengthens her legs. A few years a go I had the option of going through this long, painful and risky process. I fortuantly had another choice which allowed me to be out of cast in three weeks and I'm glad I had this option.

I just want to be happy and it's been so hard recently, but things are just starting to turn around, I hope,

Sarah
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