ransition.

[Mister]

That's right, I'm curious about transition without the T.  Why are you choosing to transition without it?  Not talking about being afraid of family approval or finances preventing you or even a medical issue.  I'm talking  perfectly healthy, financially sound, independent adult who is choosing to forgo testosterone. 

[Elwood]

Man. I don't know. Everyone I know who doesn't want T has medical reasons for it...

[Nero]

Do we have anyone here 'ransitioning'? I don't think it's actually possible for most guys to transition without T (and by transition, I mean the world sees a man when you walk down the street) unless they want to look and sound like a pre-pubescent boy for eternity. Course, there are always exceptions but most of us aren't going to be able to live without T.

But back to the question -

Reasons I would 'Ransition' if I could:

1) T doesn't make the man.

2) Hairy chests and asses don't make the man.

3) Bass voices don't make the man, etc, etc...

4) Already have a powerful libido and great sex life


Really though, I just don't care about any of that. The only plus with T (other than passing) I see is muscle building ease. Had I gotten all that T has to offer during puberty, I'dve been thrilled but as it stands all that's just going to be an annoyance. A means to an end.


But I may find I actually enjoy the hormone once on it. Stranger things have happened.

[Elwood]

I want T not to be seen as a man. I already pass. I just would like to have more masculine features. I'd feel safer in my own skin.

I don't think being hairy of having a deep voice would make me more of a man. But that's how I want to look and feel. I see all of T's effects as a plus.

[Osiris]

I don't think being hairy of having a deep voice would make me more of a man. But that's how I want to look and feel. I see all of T's effects as a plus.

My thoughts exactly.

[Nero]

I want T not to be seen as a man. I already pass. I just would like to have more masculine features. I'd feel safer in my own skin.

I don't think being hairy of having a deep voice would make me more of a man. But that's how I want to look and feel. I see all of T's effects as a plus.

That's good then. Guess we're on opposite ends. I just care about passing. I want to keep my smooth skin and all. Prolly be waxing every inch of myself. 

[Mister]

I'm not stating that T- or the hairy ass- make the man.  Never have, never will.  Just curious as to how people chose a no-T transition and why they do so, just as I'm curious to those who choose non-op to me.  Since testosterone and surgery seemed like the natural way for me to go, I was simply looking for a bit of insight into the other perspective, and hopefully something a bit more comprehensive than "i can be a guy without being a baritone."

[Nero]

I'm not stating that T- or the hairy ass- make the man.  Never have, never will.  Just curious as to how people chose a no-T transition and why they do so, just as I'm curious to those who choose non-op to me.  Since testosterone and surgery seemed like the natural way for me to go, I was simply looking for a bit of insight into the other perspective, and hopefully something a bit more comprehensive than "i can be a guy without being a baritone."

Oh I wasn't implying that you were saying that.

Hopefully if all goes well, I will be able to take T. So, I'm not exactly a no-T transitioner but wish I didn't need the hormone.
I really don't have any better reason for wishing I didn't need it than what I stated. Other than the fact I don't like the idea of being chained to a hormone forever, but then again I'm chained to other meds forever so doesn't really matter.

[Mister]

I'm not stating that T- or the hairy ass- make the man.  Never have, never will.  Just curious as to how people chose a no-T transition and why they do so, just as I'm curious to those who choose non-op to me.  Since testosterone and surgery seemed like the natural way for me to go, I was simply looking for a bit of insight into the other perspective, and hopefully something a bit more comprehensive than "i can be a guy without being a baritone."

Oh I wasn't implying that you were saying that.

Hopefully if all goes well, I will be able to take T. So, I'm not exactly a no-T transitioner but wish I didn't need the hormone.
I really don't have any better reason for wishing I didn't need it than what I stated. Other than the fact I don't like the idea of being chained to a hormone forever, but then again I'm chained to other meds forever so doesn't really matter.

You're chained to one forever whichever road you choose, Nero.   

[Nero]

lol guess you're right. and i am sick of the estrogen. 

[trapthavok]

Again I'm going to have to say I'm one of those people who has no idea how to answer this. I mean, look at my current avatar. Clearly I want a beard badly >_>

The only thing stopping me right now is:
$$$$
Fear of permanency, can't go back once you've started
Fear of medical reasons -- I hate doctors, I'm scared of needles, I'm scared in general...


If I can get past all those though...? I'd be on T in a heartbeat and have top surgery too. I agree with Nero in the sense that "T doesn't make you a man" because I am a man. Always have been regardless of whether or not I have low or high levels of T pumping through me. I would simply like T to achieve the physical appearance I've always desired, and make the body match the mind.

I will be a man whether or not I go through the entire transition process until the day I die, it's just a vanity issue for me.

[Mister]

I think you guys all need to read OP...  I'm not asking why the people who are currently not on T are not on it.  I'm asking about those who choose to stay off for their entire transition.  They're out there, I've met them.  I just haven't met an eloquent one yet.  >_<

[Mister]

:sigh:

the thread is directed at those who ARE NOT and DO NOT EVER PLAN TO be on testosterone.  in this thread, i don't particularly care why you chose to go on testosterone- that's been asked and answered.

[trapthavok]

:sigh:

the thread is directed at those who ARE NOT and DO NOT EVER PLAN TO be on testosterone.  in this thread, i don't particularly care why you chose to go on testosterone- that's been asked and answered.

Number 1, calm down dude, take a chill pill.
Number 2, good luck finding them, I haven't seen any of those transmen around here.

[Mister]

I'm perfectly calm, it just gets rather obnoxious when people clearly do not read the topic.

[JonasCarminis]

seth corbin on youtube is a non hormone transdude.  and meiko xavier only took T for a little while then decided to stop.

[Elwood]

I do believe I read and understood the topic.

[Mister]

I do believe I read and understood the topic.

You did, Elwood.  Not a blanket comment.

[trapthavok]

seth corbin on youtube is a non hormone transdude.  and meiko xavier only took T for a little while then decided to stop.

Yeah seth does it...but he already passes/has a deep voice and has his own reasons. I've seen him before, just not on susan's

[Aidan]

Heh.  I'm not sure if could answer the OP's question or not.  I'm not on T, and never will be on T, and it's not for medical reasons or anything, it's a personal decision of sorts, but I'm not sure I can say I'm "transitioning" either.