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HOW DO YOU GET FAT?!!!

Started by Annwyn, September 07, 2008, 03:36:09 PM

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Nicky

That sounds yum  :-\

Hopefully you are not just making your insides fatty - as in around your internal organs.
I've been watching weight loss shows and occasionaly they have these super skinny people who are actualy classified as obese. Weird.

How long have you been on the mones? I've heard it can take some time for things to change, have you thought of waiting for a year or two and see how it goes? Of course if you're impatient I guess chugging down the creamer is an option.
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trbrink

I read this topic and honestly, I get really, really scared.  From what I can tell.... you are of college age, in good health, on E and trying to gain weight.  The danger is that with poor/excessive eating, weight gain can  "kick-in" rather suddenly, and you may have developed very "bad habits" in the meantime.  You mentioned that you were a personal trainer and that you could lose the weight if "need be".  The problem is that once you develop bad habits, it is very hard to break them, even when you know how to "lose the weight".  Also, as you get older your metabolism will naturally slow down but you will be used to consuming a very large amount of food.  Trying to force weight gain is something I would only undertake with extreme caution and I would take it in very slow/measured increments while giving a significant time for the effects to set in.

I am an Ironman competitor and find that a good portion of the Bio girls are less defined/"hourglass" than me.(I have very little definition...all of which was gained in a 6 week period after Ironman Florida in which I basically stopped training)  So, although we would all like a nice hourglass figure, realize that even in the bio female population, many don't have much definition.  Good eating habits and eating proper portions is a gift.  I would carefully weigh all the potential consequences before throwing that gift away.
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Annwyn

Quote from: Nicky on September 17, 2008, 07:50:23 PM
That sounds yum  :-\

Hopefully you are not just making your insides fatty - as in around your internal organs.
I wear a corset.

QuoteHow long have you been on the mones? I've heard it can take some time for things to change, have you thought of waiting for a year or two and see how it goes? Of course if you're impatient I guess chugging down the creamer is an option.


I've been on and off for a year now.  was on from dec-jun and got back on late july.
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helenoftroy

well you remind me of myself. I wanted boobs, so I gained 65 lbs. Now I'm trying to lose it, cause a belly aint cool, Im walking 3 miles a day. :) be healthy, be happy
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myles

What it all comes down to is calories in vs. calories out. You can gain weight by eating calories that are a bit better for you or junk food.  It seems that healthy foods would be better for you in the end,  stick to good carbs, protiens, healthy calories. I have a son who is underweight and the doctor has been clear that he needs to gain weight but not by eating a bunch of fatty processed food. He drinks protien shakes, I give him protien bars, basically you want healthy calories.
Myles
"A life lived in fear is a life half lived"
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Annwyn

Quote from: myles on September 18, 2008, 11:26:26 AM
What it all comes down to is calories in vs. calories out.
Uh huh.  Something called METABOLISM.  In other words, the sum of all chemical reactions in the body.
QuoteYou can gain weight by eating calories that are a bit better for you or junk food.  It seems that healthy foods would be better for you in the end,  stick to good carbs, protiens, healthy calories. I have a son who is underweight and the doctor has been clear that he needs to gain weight but not by eating a bunch of fatty processed food. He drinks protien shakes, I give him protien bars, basically you want healthy calories.
Myles

AThe point is to gain FAT, not muscle.
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Keira


You don't gain fat by just eating fat.
You can gain from protein also if you don't do
muscle building exercise and have low T.
Unused proteins get converted to fats.
Though, since this takes energy and loads the liver, its not the most
effiicient way to gain weight and its not the healthiest if you don't also
take in carbs.

The best thing to gain weight in a healthy way is long to digest carbs, they
give you a constant energy stream where the overflow gets stored
as fat instead of metabolically bad spikes of insulin and blood lipids.
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Annwyn

Quote from: Keira on September 18, 2008, 08:59:55 PM

You don't gain fat by just eating fat.
You can gain from protein also if you don't do
muscle building exercise and have low T.
Unused proteins get converted to fats.
Though, since this takes energy and loads the liver, its not the most
effiicient way to gain weight and its not the healthiest if you don't also
take in carbs.

The best thing to gain weight in a healthy way is long to digest carbs, they
give you a constant energy stream where the overflow gets stored
as fat instead of metabolically bad spikes of insulin and blood lipids.


which is totally why coffee creamer is an excellent idea.  basicly like liquid sugar.  plenty of carbs^_^
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Keira


Liquid sugar is
NOT GOOD, its the opposite of what I said, it provokes a high insulin spike.
Eat tons of whole bread and you'll a result that's better for you.
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Annwyn

Quote from: Keira on September 18, 2008, 09:47:05 PM

Eat tons of whole bread and you'll a result that's better for you.


+bloating
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debbie j

Annwyn  you really want to put some weight on . this is what you do  and you MUST do it everyday and with OUT any questionings of

it at all . frist off drink one gallon of whole milk every other day . if not one gallon a day its self. and then 2 eat 5 quarts of ice cream

any flavor . and dont forget the toping too. and then drink at lest a 12 pack of pop a day here again any choice of pop is ok as long

as its like mounten dew or pepsi . or coke .and then eat half a bag of cookies and  a bag of chips with dip  every few days . and then

have a big mac and a bart with onions and cheese from 7 eleven a day . and do this untill you get to the weight that  you are trying to reach

and if you DO this religoues  it wont take you very long to rach your goal ;)
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Keira


High fat diets provoke metabolic syndrome and impedes estrogen's distribution
of fat. You'll get a bell if you do that! Don't do it.

I think I'm talking, but nobody's listening...
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Annwyn

Quote from: Keira on September 19, 2008, 01:32:18 PM

High fat diets provoke metabolic syndrome and impedes estrogen's distribution
of fat. You'll get a bell if you do that! Don't do it.

I think I'm talking, but nobody's listening...


Really?  Interesting... I was under the impression that a diet high in lipids would help distribute estrogen BETTER in the body, seeing as estrogen is a steroid and steroids are lipid-soluable...
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sresha

One thing that has not been mentioned so far is progesterone, which you might want to consider adding to your regimen if you're not taking it already. This is mainly what makes pregnant women gain so much weight. Many American TS women are put on an estradiol-only therapy and unfortunately do not get to experience the added benefit of progesterone. This includes better fat distribution, rounder breasts, far better skin, moderate antiandrogenic effects among others. I might write a separate post about this eventually, but basically in my experience, a combined therapy works much much better, even if you're taking pure anti-androgens. I started out taking both estrogen and progesterone, had fantastic results (though age and genetics will also play a role), then went to a different doctor who put me on estrogen only. The differences were almost immediately noticeable in my case: oilier skin, breakouts, weight loss, hair loss... basically a 50% return to my pre-transition days. I was devastated until I finally figured it out. As soon as I returned to my old regimen, things were back to normal.

Also, eating such an unhealthy diet will backfire as you get older, and could give you dull, unattractive complexion. Not to mention high cholesterol levels, risk of coronary disease, etc. Eating healthy fats (Canola, Olive, etc.) will not make you gain weight either, that's a misconception. Do drink plenty of whole milk/natural cream, eat whole yogurt, breads, cookies, cakes, pies, other rich baked items, jam, peanut butter, ice cream and chocolate; ALL with natural, simple ingredients (no hydrogenated oil, margarine, high fructose syrup). Butter is good. Drink plenty of natural juice, eat a lot of bananas and potatoes (unless you're on spiro), add rice, beans and nuts to your diet, and gradually cut your meat/chicken intake by half (or go vegetarian if you could).
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Keira

Fats produce estrogen from T, but a HIGH saturated FAT,
high sugar diet
tends to disturb metabolism and create metabolic syndrome.
Which iimpedes the natural fat metabolism in the body.
Google "metabolic syndrome"  or   ( "high fat diet" study )

Naturally, a young women who exercises a bit should not get a belly,
but she'll get one if she eats a high fat, high sugar diet.

To gain weight in a good way is to eat one or two extra servings a day of
a hard to digest carbs and proteins. Beens,
peanuts, whole wheat bread, etc.

Its possible to gain weight on good fat, drink olive one liter of olive oil a day and I'm
sure you'll get weight very fast. Don't drink it in one shot or you'll be on the toilet
quick  ;D. I once did this a while back, and I gained 10 pounds in one month.

If you eat tons of salmon, you'll gain weight. This is also a very healthy diet if
couple with a bit of carbs.




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Kaitlyn

It's all about the carbs.  Simple carbs to spike that insulin up, followed up with high energy density complex carbs that'll go straight to fat with all that insulin floating around.
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled."
— Plutarch
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Virginia87106

To put on moderate weight, a high carb, moderate fat fiet will do it.  Do not do the high fat content because it affect your cholesterol.

If anyone here wants to lose weight, the Sojuth Beach diet is a winner.
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Kaitlyn

Lost 40 lb in three months on an ad-hoc quasi-Atkins diet myself.
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled."
— Plutarch
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