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Started by Jack Daniels, October 07, 2008, 01:04:33 AM

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Jack Daniels

I was always attracted to women phsically, but now I see the benefits of same sex relationships. You guys know what Im mean?

Its as though both people are in the same mindset or somethin, which I guess could be more closer to a friendship, but I dont know.

I mean, yeah, girls are hot, really really hot, but they just dont seem to understand certain things, and the ones Ive met are so god damn obessed with apperance and stuff, I hate that. Theres the oversensitive ones too that just cry if you dont water everything you say down to the point where it almost carries another meaning. And then the over dramtic ones who turn something like a glance into "omg did you see how they looked at me. Oh no they didnt. Blah blah they suck, theyre ugly, look at their shoes blah came from walmart blah blah... blah." Its actually kind of funny when you watch it but eventually it gets borin.

Now with the sane sex,(meant to write same ::)) it would be different to an extent, of course you still have your oversensitive overdramtic guys too, but then theres the others who are cool, and are on a similar mindset. It just seems more chemistry is possible, but I guess its different for everyone. But couldnt a mental attraction turn into something greater. I also enjoy how you can punch each other for the hell of it, great fun. But once I punched a couple of female friends(gently...very gently, i swear). And I konw they have no right to be hit, I was playin but it turned into a "omg, you re evil, burn in hell, how could you hit a girl, thats not fun..i hate you, blah..." I looked at them and startin laughin which made it worse, but damn couldnt help it...

But in the end im back to where I started, basically gender doesnt matter and you just have to find someone with similar mindset, interests... but so many fit their gender mindset, i havin problems findin bad ass females and when I do their lesbains and want nothing to do with a man, trans or not, though some do i suppose...

Whats yalls views
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Lachlann

It might be your age group to be honest. People change and grow up, and the root of your problem might be finding people in your age range that break off and become themselves instead of worrying about the crowd.

I'm straight and I love women. I would like a feminine girl who is a tomboy at heart basically... that's my preference. And I don't think it matters if I'm biomale or not, because finding them would be just as hard as it is now. I don't think we have it as hard as we think we do when it comes to finding a relationship that works because in the end, everyone is looking for someone that works well with them. Everyone goes through that no matter what you are.

I do feel I connect with men and I bond with my guy friends. It is a little bit different than being around my female friends, I notice it for sure. However, for me, I don't think a romantic relationship with a guy is something that is for me. For other guys or girls, it might be what's for them... but romantically I connect best with women. I can see why someone would want a relationship with a guy but in my case it's just not for me.

In some cases, maybe we glorify our friendships with fellow men because we lacked that interaction until now or something like that. I don't know, I'm quite tired and I'm not sure if you get what I mean or not.
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Jay

Quotegirls are hot, really really hot
Tell me about it brother!

QuoteBut in the end im back to where I started, basically gender doesnt matter

You said it all dude... thats exactly what I was going to say. You answered your own question before you began.


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Elwood

If it wasn't for my dysphoria (if I was a biomale and didn't have the wrong parts), I'd probably be very happily gay. But when I'm exposed to male parts in person, my dysphoria is through the roof.
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jet3

When it comes to me, I have never been attracted to men. I think it goes beyond just personality or that dramatic sensitive attitude that a lot of girls tend to carry. I am physically attracted to females and not to males.  I think its important to think long term as well.  Once you are in a relationship could you physically see youself being intimate with a guy? That's huge to me.  I could never be physical with a guy no matter how cool of a dude he was or how similar our personalities were.  I've been in a relationship for 2 years, and I'll be the first to admit that at times it's difficult because of the difference in mind set, but we still click.  I find her super attractive and i love her personality overall, even though she is sensitive, semi-obsessed with appearance, and gets mad at me because we communicate different, i could not imagine being with a guy just so these differences wouldn't occur.  Maybe that's just me, i don't know.  I also think that it probably wouldn't matter who you were with (this girl, that girl, this guy, that guy) no two people are going to get along perfectly, so you just have to take the good with the bad. 
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Jack Daniels

hmm... I guess I forgot about the people who could never be physical with a certain sex, that is a good point, so gender still matters to a degree, or the comfortable level that some feel with a certain gender. That too is important, but still...Well, to a degree I guess there are no "bad" qualities, the judger is what makes a certain quality bad. Some of my friends love the overdramtic, oversentive girly girls because accordin to them they like girls and every traditional styreotype that comes with it.

Plus it good to have some differences I think but I dont know, my mind is overpowering any physical anythin I have and thats why I wolud put it first, even in choosin a partner. But man alive, if it was a guy and I still am pre-op, that in itself could be a problem(good point made), but... damn Im confused. Still.
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Nero

Quote from: Jack Daniels on October 07, 2008, 08:12:08 PM
hmm... I guess I forgot about the people who could never be physical with a certain sex, that is a good point, so gender still matters to a degree, or the comfortable level that some feel with a certain gender. That too is important, but still...Well, to a degree I guess there are no "bad" qualities, the judger is what makes a certain quality bad. Some of my friends love the overdramtic, oversentive girly girls because accordin to them they like girls and every traditional styreotype that comes with it.

Plus it good to have some differences I think but I dont know, my mind is overpowering any physical anythin I have and thats why I wolud put it first, even in choosin a partner. But man alive, if it was a guy and I still am pre-op, that in itself could be a problem(good point made), but... damn Im confused. Still.

Well, have you been with both sexes before?
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icontact

I'm really not sure whether I like guys. But even if I would have sex with men, I have never found a guy that understood me like a girl can. The difference is wildly obvious in my opinion. So I suppose I'm technically bi-curious, but when it comes down to it, I'd only date a girl.
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Yochanan

I've been with men. We did not understand each other at all, maybe because I was a "girl" then. Since I realized the truth I've become more and more interested in girls. I mean, I've been quite open since becoming interested in relationships as a young teen, but only recently have I had a real interest in women, more than just fantasizing or wondering. Maybe it's my more masculine side coming out, I don't know. All I know is, I've tried boys, now I want to try girls. Physical sex is not much of a barrier for me when it comes to finding a mate.

And as long as she had a head on her shoulders, I wouldn't mind if she was a girly-girl.
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Jack Daniels

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Quote from: Nero on October 07, 2008, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on October 07, 2008, 08:12:08 PM
hmm... I guess I forgot about the people who could never be physical with a certain sex, that is a good point, so gender still matters to a degree, or the comfortable level that some feel with a certain gender. That too is important, but still...Well, to a degree I guess there are no "bad" qualities, the judger is what makes a certain quality bad. Some of my friends love the overdramtic, oversentive girly girls because accordin to them they like girls and every traditional styreotype that comes with it.

Plus it good to have some differences I think but I dont know, my mind is overpowering any physical anythin I have and thats why I wolud put it first, even in choosin a partner. But man alive, if it was a guy and I still am pre-op, that in itself could be a problem(good point made), but... damn Im confused. Still.

Well, have you been with both sexes before?

Not physically, cause this mental issue.


But I still just dont connect with girls in a mentality at all. They seem to care about certain things that Im just thinkin  ??? Why does it even matter. Or how they can be so discreet with somethin,like what theyre really thinkin. Ill continully ask them ,"Are you sure you dont mind?" and theyll be like "yeah". And moments later they re super pissed and Im sittin there tryin to figure out what made them mad. I dont understand, and now I just tryin to figure out if it that attitude would carry over into a physical relationship, and if it wouldnt, then it would be more of usin somebody, which might end up happenin.
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Nero

Quote from: Jack Daniels on October 08, 2008, 11:18:36 AM
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Quote from: Nero on October 07, 2008, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on October 07, 2008, 08:12:08 PM
hmm... I guess I forgot about the people who could never be physical with a certain sex, that is a good point, so gender still matters to a degree, or the comfortable level that some feel with a certain gender. That too is important, but still...Well, to a degree I guess there are no "bad" qualities, the judger is what makes a certain quality bad. Some of my friends love the overdramtic, oversentive girly girls because accordin to them they like girls and every traditional styreotype that comes with it.

Plus it good to have some differences I think but I dont know, my mind is overpowering any physical anythin I have and thats why I wolud put it first, even in choosin a partner. But man alive, if it was a guy and I still am pre-op, that in itself could be a problem(good point made), but... damn Im confused. Still.

Well, have you been with both sexes before?

Not physically, cause this mental issue.


But I still just dont connect with girls in a mentality at all. They seem to care about certain things that Im just thinkin  ??? Why does it even matter. Or how they can be so discreet with somethin,like what theyre really thinkin. Ill continully ask them ,"Are you sure you dont mind?" and theyll be like "yeah". And moments later they re super pissed and Im sittin there tryin to figure out what made them mad. I dont understand, and now I just tryin to figure out if it that attitude would carry over into a physical relationship, and if it wouldnt, then it would be more of usin somebody, which might end up happenin.


Well, you're not supposed to 'get' girls. Understanding the mind of the opposite sex really has no bearing on orientation, though I expect gay people do appreciate that advantage. But as icing on the cake, not as THE cake.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Lachlann

I know girls who don't even understand why girls act the way they do. I'm sure there are guys who are just as confused about guys.

Case in point... people are complex.
Don't be scared to fly alone, find a path that is your own
Love will open every door it's in your hands, the world is yours
Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
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Mister

I was attracted to women before and after I identified as trans and before and after testosterone.  Would I sleep with a guy if i was attracted to him? Sure, but it hasn't happened yet.  While I may have more in common with some men, I prefer to stick to having relationships with women. 

Once you start on the sauce, you'll know for sure which way you swing.  ;D
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myles

I am physically attracted to women. Being a born a women makes no difference, in my case, as far as making me understand them better. They are still dificult to me to understand, heck that is what probably makes me attracted to them. Who knows where I will be after T.
Myles
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James

I'm bi, but I definately prefer men for relationships and identify myself as a gay man.  I've never gotten along with women well, (They confuse me!) but it will be interesting to see if that dynamic changes after I get to the point where I look male.
Jack, I get what you're saying about it being hard to find a partner! I'm worried about how I'll be received in the gay male community, when I'm finally ready to start going out. 
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milliontoone

I consider myself to be a gay man for the simple reason that I am a man and I happen to be attracted to men but really it wouldn't be an issue for me if I was gay, bi, str8 or whatever.  I just don't see sexuality as revelant to what gender you are although admittedly it is difficult for me at the moment with some guys while I am in transition and how they view me, their perceptions and feelings about being with a trans guy as opposed to a bio male etc...
Once I fully transition I highly doubt whether even this will be a issue unless I choose to disclose to them of course.
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